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punishedkissinger posted:ok but in real life Kevin would have killed those fuckers almost immediately with the poo poo he set up I would lose all of my poo poo if they started bukkake'ing tanks with Ukrainian flag colors and said tanks just started running into each other blinded while they were trying to flee. Please just give me this video. Please God. E: I would also accept a rainbow theme color palette cr0y fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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*Abu Tow enters the chat*
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punishedkissinger posted:ok but in real life Kevin would have killed those fuckers almost immediately with the poo poo he set up Someone could make an amazing montage of edited Home Alone clips where Putin is Joe Pesci, Lukashenko or someone is Marv, and Zelensky is Kevin.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:07 |
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acidx posted:One other thing to consider if this conflict goes on for longer than a few weeks is that there's a lot of people in the eastern hemisphere who would love to shoot at Russian soldiers. That dude is apparently the TOW Sniper... https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1497306977097105412?s=20&t=jnUWn-ujWUTtlLmrPtA8eA
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:08 |
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A big flaming stink posted:I'm trying to caution people from being swept up in the romanticism of the idea of a heroic war. If there's one time when arming civilians is the prudent thing to do, it's probably when your loving capital is under siege by the loving Russians.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:09 |
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the popes toes posted:*Abu Tow enters the chat* Promote Abu TOW to Abu Javelin inshallah
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punishedkissinger posted:it's heroic when a firefighter rushes into a burning building but that doesn't make fires "good". what is with you obtuse fuckers? I don't like war and would prefer people to be safe and well and not have to fight and die for their freedoms. I am not being obtuse I am trying my best to lay out my ideas.
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Gervasius posted:Promote Abu TOW to Abu Javelin inshallah Nah, keep him on TOWs. Javelin is fire-and-forget, you want an artist's touch to man a SACLOS to his degree.
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Josef bugman posted:I don't like war and would prefer people to be safe and well and not have to fight and die for their freedoms. I am not being obtuse I am trying my best to lay out my ideas. It is important to remember that the nazis werent beaten by dialogue or nonviolent resistance. They were shot in the head, and the rest were hanged. EDIT: Goddamn autocorrect Keisari fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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This footage appears to be from the base of that large residential building that was struck. I'm assuming it's still Ukrainian forces present here. https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497464459794735109
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:14 |
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I've seen some claims that there's gonna be meetings about further increasing sanctions, but this is confirmed: https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1497466932794064897?t=-iPjuyzpqtyd04XVPYPsFw&s=19
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Inner Light posted:Wow that sure is catastrophic damage to a 100% civilian high rise building no? Don't worry, Hamas has offices there.
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Josef bugman posted:I don't like war and would prefer people to be safe and well and not have to fight and die for their freedoms. I am not being obtuse I am trying my best to lay out my ideas. the world you would prefer is beautiful and ideal. but it is not the world we have and it is unlikely to ever exist in the world which we live in, people who rush into danger to save the lives of others are considered heroic. this is to reward them for their reckless and self harming but altruistic behavior. for reasons, the underdog in an unfair conflict is considered heroic we can applaud the world you see in your dreams while also applauding the dirty world which exists around us and the people who make hard choices of death and glory in that world
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marxismftw fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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Josef bugman posted:I don't like war and would prefer people to be safe and well and not have to fight and die for their freedoms. I am not being obtuse I am trying my best to lay out my ideas. Mate... that's great and all and I'm sure many of us would like that too. But that's clearly not an option here, I hope you understand that.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:16 |
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i'd prefer a world where the sewage pipe never bursts but, living in the world where the sewage pipe can burst, i respect the hell out of the person who wades into the poo poo and fixes the sewage pipe
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:17 |
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I have a pacifist friend who is constantly tying himself in knots trying to both-sides this and I feel a vague disgust at them. I just can't understand the rationale: I'm all for not shooting people and working for peace & understanding, but when it's the loving Russian army at your door coming to shut down your independence and to take away any and all who dare to resist, any and all alternatives to going at them with everything you got are not really alternatives. Celebrating the Ukrainian's resolve and heroism in the face of an existential threat is the natural and commendable human reaction.
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Pretty sure that answers the "does molotov work on russian armor" debate.
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:18 |
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That was posted earlier--unfortunately, apparently it's thought that it was from the Maidan in 2014, not now.
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edit: nvm
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If you think Putin believing this war would be easy - is crazy. People get high on their own supply. Nazis believed the United States wouldnt be able to mobilize troops to Europe until the 70s. The Japanese believed their brown eyes gave them a nighttime navy advantage over their enemies blue eyes.
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Sir John Falstaff posted:That was posted earlier--unfortunately, apparently it's thought that it was from the Maidan in 2014, not now. whooops
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Josef bugman posted:I don't like war and would prefer people to be safe and well and not have to fight and die for their freedoms. I am not being obtuse I am trying my best to lay out my ideas. Then you would be subjugated if that's your choice, it's ok. It's not a new idea.
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Keisari posted:It is importance to remember that the nazis werent beaten by dialogue or nonviolent resistance. They were shot in the head, and the rest were hanged. Well really many of them were recruited by Western governments and the Soviets for their scientific knowledge. And de-nazification in Western Germany is generally considered a failure. But yeah, they shot some in the head.
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Keisari posted:It is importance to remember that the nazis werent beaten by dialogue or nonviolent resistance. They were shot in the head, and the rest were hanged. Sure. But I don't think that one should look at a thing that kills people and think of it as good. It is neccesary, frequently, but it's not glorious.
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marxismftw posted:whooops No big deal. That video will likely be interchangeable with dozens of others we'll be getting over the next several days.
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Josef bugman posted:Sure. But I don't think that one should look at a thing that kills people and think of it as good. It is neccesary, frequently, but it's not glorious. it's good to kill fascists, colonizers, and imperialists. not only necessary, but good.
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Josef bugman posted:Sure. But I don't think that one should look at a thing that kills people and think of it as good. It is neccesary, frequently, but it's not glorious. Cool man, think we've hashed out your position on the matter
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Cars kill people and I like cars
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# ? Feb 26, 2022 08:22 |
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Apparent footage of the hit https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1497469082018455555 Christ almighty
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WaltherFeng posted:Pretty sure that answers the "does molotov work on russian armor" debate. these are molotovs combined with barricades. molotovs themselves are not very effective weapons, they are more like desperation weapons. not as good as a gun, but better than a rock or something. however, there are very few vehicles which appreciate being in flames, so that is one of the points in favor of a molotov - a better-than-nothing way to light some bullshit on fire. all combustion-driven vehicles have to breathe air to move, and they have a much harder time breathing fire than air. plus also, air ventilation for the crew, various poo poo tacked on to the outside of the vehicle which is now on fire, and so on. props to the ukrainian militia for technique, you don't just want one molotov, you want a dozen or more of them, just constantly coming down like a gently caress you curtain on the thing you're trying to kill the biggest question i have here is, why are russian military vehicles trying to ram barricades??? like, the better thing to do would be to hang back and shoot enough bullets and shells at the barricades to (1) scare off anyone nearby from trying to gently caress with you (2) clear out the barricade enough so that you don't have to slam your vehicles into it. what in the gently caress is the plan here?
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Looks like Russians have taken Melitopol. Not clear how well they are fortified there, though.
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marxismftw posted:whooops Even if it is, it does show Ukrainians are pretty handy with Molotovs
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Josef bugman posted:Sure. But I don't think that one should look at a thing that kills people and think of it as good. It is neccesary, frequently, but it's not glorious. If your concept of morality is detached from necessity, it's time to reevaluate.
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punishedkissinger posted:it's good to kill fascists, colonizers, and imperialists. not only necessary, but good. I'd disagree. It's necessary, but it's to important to remember that it is another person you are killing. Sometimes it is important and neccesary to do so. Something can need doing and still be not good. acidx posted:Cool man, think we've hashed out your position on the matter I'm just trying to respond to people. I am sorry if this is derailing things.
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when you think about it, isn't it really the Federations fault that the Cardassians re-invaded Bajor?
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Josef bugman posted:
For what its worth I don't really agree with you but appreciate you taking the time and effort to respond. Take care of yourself.
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Kraftwerk posted:How does US and Polish support help Ukraine now? Like how do you even distribute and move all those NLAWS and Javelin missiles to the front without getting your supply lines bombed to poo poo. Javelin are relatively simple to use
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E: already corrected
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Freudian slippers posted:If there's one time when arming civilians is the prudent thing to do, it's probably when your loving capital is under siege by the loving Russians. I vehemently disagree that blurring the lines between civilian and combatant is ever appropriate.
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