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a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat

fatherboxx posted:

Police doing police things :cop:

Reading the article I instinctively felt sorry for those unprepared guys being led into a warzone, until it clicked that they were riot police. That changed my view a bit.

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nurmie
Dec 8, 2019

this reads like some kind of fanfic, tbh

also, why would putin be in the ural mountains of all places lol

Trump
Jul 16, 2003

Cute

Gervasius posted:

Stinger batteries have a limited shelf life and need to be replaced every now and then. So I guess Latvians got refurbished Stingers and new batteries from Danish stocks with full support of US, but that takes time.

It was 100% a move from the Danish Government to avoid sending actual weapons.

If it was a question of batteries, Denmark could have acquired some from an ally almost instantly.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Old James posted:

In part 2 he claims the war is costing Russia $20 billion/day which I find hard to believe. It took us a decade to spend a trillion $ in Iraq half a world away, Russia’s going to spend that much in 50 days with a common border.

Someone said yesterday that Russia had lost about ten times more MBTs in the last 48 hours than the US lost in 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now I have NO IDEA if that’s true or not, but if it is, it’s conceivable that Russia is spending much more per day than the US spent in those actions.

Tuna-Fish
Sep 13, 2017

Ogmius815 posted:

Someone said yesterday that Russia had lost about ten times more MBTs in the last 48 hours than the US lost in 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now I have NO IDEA if that’s true or not

This is true, but only if you don't count the MBTs that the US handed over to the local allies (which the local allies then proceeded to hilariously lose against troops with no anti-tank capability).

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

nurmie posted:

this reads like some kind of fanfic, tbh

also, why would putin be in the ural mountains of all places lol

Yeah, it sounds like some Hitler in Wolf's Lair fanfic poo poo

pippy
May 29, 2013

CRIMES
They must be getting desperate.
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1497543633293266944

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

TheRat posted:

Looks like a fairly obvious joke?

Yes; it’s illustrative.

In before I get a 6er for posting about posters, but better then risking a 24 hour probation for questioning the party line in cspam.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Ogmius815 posted:

Someone said yesterday that Russia had lost about ten times more MBTs in the last 48 hours than the US lost in 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now I have NO IDEA if that’s true or not, but if it is, it’s conceivable that Russia is spending much more per day than the US spent in those actions.

The cost in outright write-offs, even with high level of casualties, is going to be a small fraction of the overall cost, in supplies, wear and tear, spare parts, the usual logistical stuff.

TheRat posted:

Looks like a fairly obvious joke?

Just a joke. Just the same joke, repeated 24/7, across hundred threads, by hundred posters. But just a joke, for sure. Such as other hilarious jokes like "Ukrainians aren't people" and we could go on. All mere innocent jokes. Jokes repeated day off, day on, year by year. Normal, funny jokes for normal funny people

steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Feb 26, 2022

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Any word on SWIFT yet?

I assume that's a go since all the major players are for it at this point

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


[/quote]
After watching the American war machine do it’s thing over the past 21 years, the abandoned equipment seems pretty gods damned amateurish.

The evacuation from Afghanistan aside (and then it was mostly ANA equipment) when NATO countries have to leave operable equipment on the field they blow that poo poo up instead.

Smeef
Aug 15, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Pillbug

Ogmius815 posted:

You should check in on the CSPAM thread. It’s revealing and everyone should see. Don’t touch the poop of course. They’re allowed to hell dump us but not the other way around!

I thought the KFA forums had been down for years

Trump
Jul 16, 2003

Cute

ZombieLenin posted:

After watching the American war machine do it’s thing over the past 21 years, the abandoned equipment seems pretty gods damned amateurish.

It's a simple cost/benefit analysis. Does it cost more to transport this banged up MRAP back home, and put it back into tip-top working order, than simply writing it off?

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

ZombieLenin posted:

After watching the American war machine do it’s thing over the past 21 years, the abandoned equipment seems pretty gods damned amateurish.

The evacuation from Afghanistan aside (and then it was mostly ANA equipment) when NATO countries have to leave operable equipment on the field they blow that poo poo up instead.

This is a conventional war. Not NATO vs insurgency.

Who gives a poo poo about denying the Ukrainians an MTLB or some Ural trucks. They run the same poo poo.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Ogmius815 posted:

Someone said yesterday that Russia had lost about ten times more MBTs in the last 48 hours than the US lost in 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now I have NO IDEA if that’s true or not, but if it is, it’s conceivable that Russia is spending much more per day than the US spent in those actions.

i am petitioning jeffery to find some way to make this video the thread title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFhjNaHcmag

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

TulliusCicero posted:

Any word on SWIFT yet?

I assume that's a go since all the major players are for it at this point

Germany's Scholz has yet to say if he's changed his opinion. Some statement is expected today.

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

https://twitter.com/poppoppopkt/status/1497485834236346368?s=20&t=cxPoiGvlCuiMp2XQQgEK0A

First real indications of Urban insurgency.

Looks like they're taking notes though and are bypassing most cities.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Russians seem to be advancing a lot in the south

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

freeasinbeer posted:

Yes; it’s illustrative.

In before I get a 6er for posting about posters, but better then risking a 24 hour probation for questioning the party line in cspam.

Hey remember earlier in the week when a CSPAM mod tried to bait Brown Moses into sharing a post from this thread there so that he could prob him?

That's the culture and level of Putin apologism there.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Mokotow posted:

Isn’t the bosphorous governed by some crazy UN regulations?

No, it's governed by a treaty from 1936, called the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits. Fun facts, at one time Stalin demanded Turkey allow a permanent Soviet military presence and joint control of the strait, and the Soviet Navy being dicks about the strait by anchoring warships in it is what led to turkey joining NATO.

with a rebel yell she QQd
Jan 18, 2007

Villain


Oh, Orban showed up at the Ukranian border and held a press conference promising that Hungary will support all sanctions against Russia. "It's time to cooperate, this is a war."

smug n stuff
Jul 21, 2016

A Hobbit's Adventure

TulliusCicero posted:

Any word on SWIFT yet?

I assume that's a go since all the major players are for it at this point

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1497581880530583554?s=21

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Charlz Guybon posted:

Russians seem to be advancing a lot in the south

That's because they've largely been unopposed. Ukrainian defense has focused on the larger cities in the north.

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Unconfirmed, but the Ukranian navy is claiming the Russians on the Black Sea did another whoopsie, against their own government this time

https://twitter.com/remingtongeo/status/1497573570595098624?t=h8s8fpSC4ps2-QMkctfKZA&s=19

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021


Confirmed to have not closed the straights. Misinfo claims seem to be based off of one tweet.

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497578012358979591?s=21

Turkey playing both sides still
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1497578044923338752

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

BigglesSWE posted:

History is full of great bluffs. But for every successful one, there’s probably 10 that get curbstomped.

OMON are known loving assholes in Russia so them getting murked is a blessing.

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Alchenar posted:

Hey remember earlier in the week when a CSPAM mod tried to bait Brown Moses into sharing a post from this thread there so that he could prob him?

That's the culture and level of Putin apologism there.

And that’s the reason we get baited into “talking about posters”, basically folks in here potentially earnestly asking who could do the mind gymnastics to support putins war of aggression, and a really potent example of the contortions happening in real time is nearby.

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/SalehaMohsin/status/1497574435280367622?t=K-Yx0CeLGqUwnCWlNX2b0Q&s=19

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


KitConstantine posted:

Unconfirmed, but the Ukranian navy is claiming the Russians on the Black Sea did another whoopsie, against their own government this time

https://twitter.com/remingtongeo/status/1497573570595098624?t=h8s8fpSC4ps2-QMkctfKZA&s=19

once again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFhjNaHcmag

FishBulbia
Dec 22, 2021

More signs of urban insurgency against supply colomns in Sumy, but molotov's are hard to do right.

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1497583185776971779

Condition on Southern Front seems dire for now, as Ukrainian forces have withdrawn to at least 70 KM of the west gate of Mariupol.
https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1497577941278117891

And to the north up to Zaporizhia, seem to be trying to cut off the entrenched Ukrainian forces in the East.
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1497559125416361987

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Alchenar posted:

I do worry that we are about to enter an extended period of everyone saying loudly that they support exclusion from SWIFT but for mysterious reasons it never happens.

Isn't the US the lynch pin on this? Last I understood they were not on board.

Trump
Jul 16, 2003

Cute

the popes toes posted:

Isn't the US the lynch pin on this? Last I understood they were not on board.

No, its been Italy and Germany pussy-footing around. Biden said yesterday they were looking a SWIFT, but needed to confer with European allies.

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

the popes toes posted:

Isn't the US the lynch pin on this? Last I understood they were not on board.

The US seems to be onboard, but they want to act in concert with Europe rather than acting unilaterally.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.


Trump posted:

No, its been Italy and Germany pussy-footing around. Biden said yesterday they were looking a SWIFT, but needed to confer with European allies.

its just germany now and scholz has a conference today. Even loving Orban's in favor of it now so if he still holds out lol.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



You would think Germany wouldn't be a fan of overt Russian aggression and have more willingness to respond, given the bad blood there

:rolleyes:
Apr 2, 2002

Ogmius815 posted:

You should check in on the CSPAM thread. It’s revealing and everyone should see. Don’t touch the poop of course. They’re allowed to hell dump us but not the other way around!


(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

:rolleyes: fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Feb 26, 2022

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1497584071828021248

https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1497581905281228801

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1497585790892883969

ummel
Jun 17, 2002

<3 Lowtax

Fun Shoe
Finally a use for all these Bitcoins

https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1497586406436352004

Reportedly posted by the Ukrainian DOT or something in a Facebook post about them removing road signs.

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1497585311626502150

ummel fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Feb 26, 2022

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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

a podcast for cats posted:

Reading the article I instinctively felt sorry for those unprepared guys being led into a warzone, until it clicked that they were riot police. That changed my view a bit.

maybe some Russian officer really hates riot police too and made sure those guys were ordered to just drive in a straight line through Ukraine until the inevitable happened

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