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Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

steinrokkan posted:

Millenial bay are on down of great stay; it is a two nuclear a threat of new - still they the GENDER!!!

Thanks Obama

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ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

moonmazed posted:

am i having a stroke? what the gently caress is that tweet?

https://twitter.com/Dictionarycom/status/1498033493561032710

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames

:allears:

"a nonbinary fuss" is a great phrase though

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Intercontinental ballistic tweet is pretty good too.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

steinrokkan posted:

Millenial bay are on down of great stay; it is a two nuclear a threat of new - still they the GENDER!!!

Burma Shave.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

moonmazed posted:

:allears:

"a nonbinary fuss" is a great phrase though

Seems like username material

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

moonmazed posted:

:allears:

"a nonbinary fuss" is a great phrase though

there's a new pornographers song with the phrase "flew into a lesbian rage" that always gets stuck in my head.

The Wicked ZOGA
Jan 27, 2022

In response to that I looked up 'Joe many liberals' and Youtube proved itself the idiot by serving it up in the form of a 'short', which is not something I realized existed, but is basically the same video in a worse player, because TikTok has a similarly bad player. I don't want this worse player!! gently caress off!!!!

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
I also remember not living with the Soviet Union and the Cold War and nuclear holocaust despite being born in the early 80s.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Fister Roboto posted:

All these idiots think that this dystopian future will happen because the mean ol' government won't let them buy whatever they want, and not because climate change will make producing meat insanely expensive.

Also because the dystopian future we're currently barrelling towards is the one they want.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Arivia posted:

After the conversation got started I went and looked at the wikipedia page for the Boyle Jobs movie and the criticism there is a lot of other people like Sculley and Woz going "uh, Steve was never THAT MUCH of a jerk irl" so yeah, it's interesting to see how the adaptation works. I'm not a big fan of Great Man Theory but there was definitely something like that with Jobs, with the popularly discussed "Reality Distortion Field" and all the first hand accounts of working for or with him on folklore.org and elsewhere. Jobs was a jerk but he did somehow motivate and create amazing things.

For sure. That's the damnable thing about trying to deflate Great Man Theory, there are some examples of people whose influence and effectiveness you can't deny. There are plenty of people like Musk or McAfee or Ellison or Trump who just failed upward or grifted or slimed their way to prominence and everyone just worships because they're telling themselves a story; but in Jobs' case he somehow willed into existence things that I genuinely think the world would be a shittier place without. And this is me speaking from a thirty-year track record of being an Apple fanboy who is trying to undo and recontextualize my idolization of him from a more adult perspective, not to say "pretend every powerful person was just put there by accident". I don't want him to put the lie to my effort to put the lie to GMT, but he does. He's just more the exception that proves the rule, than the actual rule.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I dunno I feel like if he were that great he wouldn't have shot juice up his rear end to cure cancer or whatever the gently caress he died of.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Great man thirty king of relied on one person doing everything which isn’t actually a thing.

It’s a simplification that serves no real point unless you desperately need a hero

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

CharlestheHammer posted:

Great man thirty king of relied on one person doing everything which isn’t actually a thing.

Now I am having the stroke.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’ve been having issues with auto correct though that’s the most impressive one.

Just change half the sentence to random words

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



It makes sense if you just read it out loud to yourself. Like Bizarro Siri

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
If by "willed into existence" you mean "stood by and gave presentations as hundreds if not thousands of people worked to make a product", then yes.

Mokotow
Apr 16, 2012

Great man thirty king, I always aubergine

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

steinrokkan posted:

If by "willed into existence" you mean "stood by and gave presentations as hundreds if not thousands of people worked to make a product", then yes.

This is why I mentioned folklore.org, which is a bunch of stories from old Apple employees including a lot of discussion on working with Jobs back during the Apple II/Macintosh days. Jobs is very well documented as being relentlessly hands on and critical about products and things didn’t go out of Apple/Next/Apple without his hands on them. He was definitely not a lunch and presentations only executive.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Oh he touched the iPhone? with his own hands? That changes everything, nobody else has touched the iPhone

So what you are saying he was rather the micromanaging dipshit executive

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
Truly no-one else could have yelled at nerds until they invented round computers.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
Unless Steve personally built every single iPhone from scratch, drove them to the store, and sold them directly to customers, color me not that impressed.

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Arivia posted:

This is why I mentioned folklore.org, which is a bunch of stories from old Apple employees including a lot of discussion on working with Jobs back during the Apple II/Macintosh days. Jobs is very well documented as being relentlessly hands on and critical about products and things didn’t go out of Apple/Next/Apple without his hands on them. He was definitely not a lunch and presentations only executive.

I mean, so is Musk. Even Steve Jobs wouldn't take time out of his busy schedule to go down to the factory floor and headbutt the product. That's the sort of hands-on management that only Elon brings to the table.

EDIT: Dammit I missed the opportunity to call it head-on management.

Karia has a new favorite as of 00:47 on Feb 28, 2022

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


There was a good stretch of time during the early Mac years, and then from Next onward, when products coming out of Apple had a very high "ooh" factor. I remember when a co-worker brought in one of the first iPhones and everybody was standing around him literally cooing. Like, audible sighs of delight. That was my reaction the first time I was hands-on the first Macs at my college. For a stretch of time there, Apple products "just worked"; the UI did what you expected it to do. There was a lot of effort put into making things intuitive and elegant.

At the very same time, in the same industry, other companies were bringing out products that did exactly the same job, but customers weren't gasping at delight about them. For better or worse, that was the Jobs difference. He wasn't the designer, he didn't write the code, he didn't oversee manufacturing. He did insist -- in, often, cruel and unreasonable ways -- on products meeting his aesthetic preferences, and his aesthetic preferences were pretty drat good.

I use a PC and an Android phone, have for years. I have used PCs rather than Macs most of my life, because that's what people paid me to use. I still remember the "oh, how beautiful" reaction many, many Apple products gave me in the Jobs years.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Karia posted:

I mean, so is Musk. Even Steve Jobs wouldn't take time out of his busy schedule to go down to the factory floor and headbutt the product. That's the sort of hands-on management that only Elon brings to the table.

Yeah the funny thing is the person who did that is Tim Cook.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

moonmazed posted:

am i having a stroke? what the gently caress is that tweet?

a 24,000 reply to 1,300 like ratio at the moment

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.


I can translate this tweet. It says:

"You young left wing people who are soft because you didn't live with the fear of death in a nuclear war every day like I did, care so much and have devoted your energy to so many inconsequential things, (pronouns, cancel culture etc.) that you have ignored the real dangers in this world, (missiles, war etc.). So now you are reaping the consequences of being left wing and caring about things other than fighting wars."

Only with a lot more brain worms and buzzwords designed to own the libs.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Pththya-lyi posted:

Unless Steve personally built every single iPhone from scratch, drove them to the store, and sold them directly to customers, color me not that impressed.

This is what I think too. But I extend it to him finding the mineral resoruces and a bunch of other things. So real life Factorio, minecraft, and a bunch of other games.

like Muskrats think Musk is doing this with every Tesla / SpaceX rocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y63i2NR9-LE

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
I don’t think anyone is misreading his message.

It’s that he is blatantly ignorant of whatever has been happening in this hellworld since 1982 to think we haven’t been constantly living under the threat of death.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
I don’t think he knows what “millennial” means, and is just using it to mean “anyone younger than I am.”

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Data Graham posted:

For sure. That's the damnable thing about trying to deflate Great Man Theory, there are some examples of people whose influence and effectiveness you can't deny. There are plenty of people like Musk or McAfee or Ellison or Trump who just failed upward or grifted or slimed their way to prominence and everyone just worships because they're telling themselves a story; but in Jobs' case he somehow willed into existence things that I genuinely think the world would be a shittier place without. And this is me speaking from a thirty-year track record of being an Apple fanboy who is trying to undo and recontextualize my idolization of him from a more adult perspective, not to say "pretend every powerful person was just put there by accident". I don't want him to put the lie to my effort to put the lie to GMT, but he does. He's just more the exception that proves the rule, than the actual rule.

Survivorship bias

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Pththya-lyi posted:

Unless Steve personally built every single iPhone from scratch, drove them to the store, and sold them directly to customers, color me not that impressed.

I too am most impressed by the person that pays the people that make things and not the people what make them, whom I despise for unrelated reasons

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Oh look, another hundred posts in the IoSM thread, I wonder how they’re generating their own content this time.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Arsenic Lupin posted:

There was a good stretch of time during the early Mac years, and then from Next onward, when products coming out of Apple had a very high "ooh" factor. I remember when a co-worker brought in one of the first iPhones and everybody was standing around him literally cooing. Like, audible sighs of delight. That was my reaction the first time I was hands-on the first Macs at my college. For a stretch of time there, Apple products "just worked"; the UI did what you expected it to do. There was a lot of effort put into making things intuitive and elegant.

At the very same time, in the same industry, other companies were bringing out products that did exactly the same job, but customers weren't gasping at delight about them. For better or worse, that was the Jobs difference. He wasn't the designer, he didn't write the code, he didn't oversee manufacturing. He did insist -- in, often, cruel and unreasonable ways -- on products meeting his aesthetic preferences, and his aesthetic preferences were pretty drat good.

I use a PC and an Android phone, have for years. I have used PCs rather than Macs most of my life, because that's what people paid me to use. I still remember the "oh, how beautiful" reaction many, many Apple products gave me in the Jobs years.

There was also a lot of effort put into making things more complicated than they needed to be :v:

Jobs' slavish insistence to really tacky skeumorphism that never really came off well and aged even worse, tons of examples of weird form over function design (sunflower Mac, hockey puck mouse), etc.

His genius really was more as a hypeman than a designer/manager/'influencer'/whatever in convincing people that the stuff he was hawking really was The Best.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Yeah sure, people who were school children when 9/11 happened and had to do active shooter drills after recess definitely have no concept of the existential dread of knowing horrible violent death could come at any moment with little warning.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Skwirl posted:

Yeah sure, people who were school children when 9/11 happened and had to do active shooter drills after recess definitely have no concept of the existential dread of knowing horrible violent death could come at any moment with little warning.

For me, being a child during the aftermath of 9/11 didn't really fill me with existential fear. It left me disillusioned. There was a big patriotic frenzy and everyone was suddenly very racist and wanted war with an unrelated country, and then, after a few years and a hundred thousand dead, people treated it like a national fugue state.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


ishikabibble posted:

Jobs' slavish insistence to really tacky skeumorphism that never really came off well and aged even worse, tons of examples of weird form over function design (sunflower Mac, hockey puck mouse), etc.

Oh, yeah, the hockey puck mouse. (shudders)

https://twitter.com/GovernorVA/status/1497686954045059082

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
It's cool that you can report someone named "sendlolipics" who is retweeting pictures of the kids in catholic uniforms from the Pokemon game unveiled last night loving and twitter will deadass send you an email saying "We know this isn't what you want to hear, but they haven't violated our policies".

Jack can suck my rear end and blow a big brown bubble

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

kirbysuperstar posted:

It's cool that you can report someone named "sendlolipics" who is retweeting pictures of the kids in catholic uniforms from the Pokemon game unveiled last night loving and twitter will deadass send you an email saying "We know this isn't what you want to hear, but they haven't violated our policies".

Jack can suck my rear end and blow a big brown bubble

nonsense I'm sure they're simply having a fun time with the fan theory that the story will be a less 'end of the world' focused one and more focused around something fun like rival schools. His name is just an unfortunate side effect of his real name being Sendlo Lipics.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to ban and delete an account for posting 'get hosed bitchlord' at Ted Cruz, we must protect the vulnerable on our website.

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Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

https://twitter.com/michaeljknowles/status/1497773876058722306

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