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It's kinda amazing how fast we went from every head of government in the world heading to Russia to sit down at long table and hang off Putin's lips to it looking kinda not out of the question anymore that he won't be in his chair a month from now. It may still work out for him, but it may also turn out that he crashed his country and completely destroyed his 20 years worth of political/historical standing within no more than two weeks
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Godholio posted:They went through several false flag stories and the US/UK immediately and decisively cut them down as bullshit by declassifying intelligence with shocking speed. Eventually Russia shrugged and moved in anyway. That’s true, interesting to see Putin allies like Le Pen in France scrambling as they either have to green light an extremely unpopular war of aggression or make excuses
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Feb 27, 2022 22:57
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I'm looking forward to seeing how many far-right media figures around the world suddenly change their mind about Putin when the checks start bouncing
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Feb 27, 2022 22:59
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shame on an IGA posted:I'm looking forward to seeing how many far-right media figures around the world suddenly change their mind about Putin when the checks start bouncing I’m so hoping for a data leak about the exact figures they got as you know some are going to be embarrassingly low, like four figures to Hannity is enough to buy a year of servitude.
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Feb 27, 2022 23:02
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shame on an IGA posted:I'm looking forward to seeing how many far-right media figures around the world suddenly change their mind about Putin when the checks start bouncing Tulsi Gabbard did it almost immediately. Edit: Well, she flipped from blaming the west for this to calling for peace.
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aphid_licker posted:It's kinda amazing how fast we went from every head of government in the world heading to Russia to sit down at long table and hang off Putin's lips to it looking kinda not out of the question anymore that he won't be in his chair a month from now. It may still work out for him, but it may also turn out that he crashed his country and completely destroyed his 20 years worth of political/historical standing within no more than two weeks I'm pretty concerned that when his government and his state TV put out statements regarding nuclear weapons and 'why do we need a world without russia?', what they're being forced to state really means is 'why do we need a world without putin?' (in his mind) I hope their launch controls are... cautious
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Feb 27, 2022 23:09
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Naked Bear posted:It looks like this is what was hit: There's also a big nitrate fertilizer plant in the area.
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Feb 27, 2022 23:11
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First the airfield seizure attempt with no air cover and now this. At least they have some destroyers to provide cover, but it'll be brilliant to watch them gently caress up a beach landing.
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Feb 27, 2022 23:12
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Has anyone investigated whether Putin's nuclear alert video was prerecorded too?
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Jokers Gamble posted:I don't know poo poo about the rules of the UN, is it possible for them to kick Russia from the security council? Because until that happens I don't see them doing much. It seems Ukraine has been laying the legal groundwork to do exactly that. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1496710912648044548.html
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Some travel-related items: https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1498019697232597008 Doha via Qatar Airways is another escape route. https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1498050391363182593 https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1497979632989220864 https://twitter.com/ethanklapper/status/1498030576128909314 CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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Feb 27, 2022 23:16
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Marshal Prolapse posted:What is the wide world of loving Zhukov is going on?
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shame on an IGA posted:I'm looking forward to seeing how many far-right media figures around the world suddenly change their mind about Putin when the checks start bouncing Same but except on these forums
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CBJSprague24 posted:Some travel-related items: So what were airline routes like during the Cold War? Did the Soviets allow airliners to fly over? I assume not because of KAL 007 but I don't know if that was normal behavior or particularly high tension. Whenever I've gone back and forth to Asia the route went over Russia. Going to Seoul you did a big loop into the Yellow Sea to avoid North Korea. How would you fly from, say, Chicago to Incheon without crossing Russia?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Could you talk a bit more about this? What's wrong with it? Indiscriminate artillery barrages against heavy civilian populations….which are generally big no no’s these days.
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Grand Fromage posted:So what were airline routes like during the Cold War? Did the Soviets allow airliners to fly over? I assume not because of KAL 007 but I don't know if that was normal behavior or particularly high tension. Whenever I've gone back and forth to Asia the route went over Russia. Going to Seoul you did a big loop into the Yellow Sea to avoid North Korea. How would you fly from, say, Chicago to Incheon without crossing Russia? Not sure about transiting Soviet airspace but, believe it or not, there were even nonstop Pan Am and Aeroflot flights between JFK and Moscow. It looks like the first run was 1968-1978 for Pan Am (with Aeroflot tossed by Reagan in 1981), with resumption around 1986-87. https://www.panam.org/the-jet-age/509-pan-am-warms-up-the-cold-war-3 https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...3-0af669fbbec9/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/10/01/Pan-Am-Aeroflot-jointly-set-first-New-York-Moscow-non-stop-flights/3493560059200/ Completely useless trivia. The flight number was 30 and Delta's JFK-Moscow flight for many years kept that number after they bought the Europe network from Pan Am. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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I guess we're about to find out if the Ukrainian Air Force has any ship killer missiles or airdrop torpedoes.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I guess we're about to find out if the Ukrainian Air Force has any ship killer missiles or airdrop torpedoes. I do recall reading that they were mining odessa, so we'll see.
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Grand Fromage posted:So what were airline routes like during the Cold War? Did the Soviets allow airliners to fly over? I assume not because of KAL 007 but I don't know if that was normal behavior or particularly high tension. Whenever I've gone back and forth to Asia the route went over Russia. Going to Seoul you did a big loop into the Yellow Sea to avoid North Korea. How would you fly from, say, Chicago to Incheon without crossing Russia? Just like the US, there are established flight corridors imposed by military or diplomatic requirements
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BUG JUG posted:no because Russia still has a veto. General Assembly votes can't be vetoed.
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Grand Fromage posted:So what were airline routes like during the Cold War? Did the Soviets allow airliners to fly over? I assume not because of KAL 007 but I don't know if that was normal behavior or particularly high tension. Whenever I've gone back and forth to Asia the route went over Russia. Going to Seoul you did a big loop into the Yellow Sea to avoid North Korea. How would you fly from, say, Chicago to Incheon without crossing Russia? depending where exactly you were going, a stop in either anchorage or gander and then a long way around. Also it's likely that all the civil aviation authorities are enjoying the hell out of banning Russian overflights, Russia are kind of dicks about overflights allowing only one airline from any given country overflight rights and the fees are borderline extortionate. Payback is sweet.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I guess we're about to find out if the Ukrainian Air Force has any ship killer missiles or airdrop torpedoes. Heck if the Argentinian forces could do a lot of damage to the Royal Navy, wonder what Ukraine could do with their pick of NATO anti-ship weapons
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Torrannor posted:General Assembly votes can't be vetoed. Oh poo poo. I didn't know that!
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Torrannor posted:General Assembly votes can't be vetoed. They still have the nuclear veto
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Heck if the Argentinian forces could do a lot of damage to the Royal Navy, wonder what Ukraine could do with their pick of NATO anti-ship weapons Do they have any of that yet?
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If that MIA-SVO flight actually follows that flight plan there's gonna be an intercept of a loving Aeroflot airliner by RCAF Hornets This timeline is weird.
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MA-Horus posted:If that MIA-SVO flight actually follows that flight plan there's gonna be an intercept of a loving Aeroflot airliner by RCAF Hornets We shouldn't have to wait long to find out 
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I don't want to overstate things, the fundamental reasons why Russia has a permanent UN Security Council seat with veto haven't disappeared, and so nobody will throw them out of that body. But there likely enough exists a majority for the aforementioned "sternly worded letter" to condemn Russia's invasion. And Russia (and China) don't have a veto to stop this. This is by far the most likely outcome imho. But yes, in theory the General Assembly can do a lot more, and the major powers can't veto those decisions. They could impose some sort of sanctions that all UN members would be treaty bound to observe.
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MA-Horus posted:If that MIA-SVO flight actually follows that flight plan there's gonna be an intercept of a loving Aeroflot airliner by RCAF Hornets 
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So the Russian Central Bank has basically decided that because of the sanctions, you can buy their poo poo, but you can't sell it when you want to. https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1498060945070956551 https://twitter.com/pwnallthethings/status/1498070962570293250 Tomorrow's going to be economic insanity within Russia.
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https://twitter.com/fgoria/status/1498058707116208132?s=21 Central Bank: NO TAKE BACKS!!! efb
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The MOEX is gonna hit the breakers in about 7 seconds after opening
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facialimpediment posted:So the Russian Central Bank has basically decided that because of the sanctions, you can buy their poo poo, but you can't sell it when you want to. Jesus gently caress. I guess Putin's lifespan is probably single digits of days at this point.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The MOEX is gonna hit the breakers in about 7 seconds after opening 7? That's highly optimistic. I give it 5.
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orange juche posted:7? That's highly optimistic. I give it 5. If you wanna watch it live in a few hours I have the perfect app. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/moex/id814558106 Never mind it seems to be DDOSed to hell…also you have to pay for it.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The MOEX is gonna hit the breakers in about 7 seconds after opening With HFT algos, it will be less than 1 second.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Jesus gently caress. I guess Putin's lifespan is probably single digits of days at this point. Wouldn't be surprised if he makes it through this unscathed, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:If you wanna watch it live in a few hours I have the perfect app. When do they open?
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Switzerland, after a long history of housing the assets of bad actors, might actually follow through with some kind of asset freeze? https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1498057338749472770?s=20&t=KuiD8ootT71leID2bXHt5A
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