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Wheeee posted:this bullshit ain’t no ww3, putin’s just a midboss on the west’s journey toward the final confrontation with xi The West is going to have to put in more quarters
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Can't wait for this stupid as gently caress war to go nuclear and get me atomized because I live near a nuclear sub base hell yeah
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The Oldest Man posted:Can't wait for this stupid as gently caress war to go nuclear and get me atomized because I live near a nuclear sub base hell yeah At least you did lead a fulfilled posting life.
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in these final hours it’s important to post.
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When the nuke destroys my home, life, and body I will become death, the destroyer of worlds, and keep posting on the astral plane
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If I die in a nuclear holocaust and I don't get to play Elden Ring because the US needed to protect an oil pipeline I'm gonna be pissed.
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maybe the real nuclear hellfire was the posting friends we made along the way
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The Oldest Man posted:Can't wait for this stupid as gently caress war to go nuclear and get me atomized because I live near a nuclear sub base hell yeah 
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When I'm obliterated by a thermonuclear warhead I'll become what I've always wanted to be. A beautiful pile of carbon.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:When I'm obliterated by a thermonuclear warhead I'll become what I've always wanted to be. A beautiful pile of carbon. You already are.
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I work in near Santa Monica,CA Going to love being ash on the wind thanks to someone's Countervalue strategy.
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I'll probably do okay unless somebody needs to cripple America's jambalaya stockpiles
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Ardennes posted:The West is going to have to put in more quarters we're printing them as fast as we can
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unwantedplatypus posted:I'll probably do okay unless somebody needs to cripple America's jambalaya stockpiles We cannot allow a spicy stew gap
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perhaps having the heterodox serious internal but also public critique is a huge strength. when compared to uh not. 
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:Blackhawk Down(at a Utah ski resort) i'd like to reiterate just how unlikely and miraculous this was
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https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1497716025604771842 Thread from a Australian major general, looks like we're not going to learn a thing about the recent Russian-Ukraine war and double down on posting wars.
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nobody dies in posting wars
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Danann posted:Thread from a Australian major general, looks like we're not going to learn a thing about the recent Russian-Ukraine war and double down on posting wars. That thread is every bit of cope you can see on twitter.
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Gunshow Poophole posted:nobody dies in posting wars plenty of people die from posting wars, I mean look at the schadenfreude posts in the covid thread.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:plenty of people die from posting wars, I mean look at the schadenfreude posts in the covid thread. died WITH posting not OF posting
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riddled with covid and russian bullets, convincing the priest I died accidentally and not from reading posts
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- assumption that Russians are taking heavy losses. We don't know if that's true, and we don't know if it's comparable to the kinds of losses the Ukrainians are taking, but also... - it assumes that the Russians particularly care about heavy losses, which they wouldn't both as a matter of operational doctrine, and as a political entity. It's the West/US that tends to care more about high losses as a PR exercise, but even from the view that Putin runs a fascist, totalitarian state, it doesn't matter to him because the assumption that he's a dictator also carries with it the assumption that he has no accountability. But the West keeps bringing this up because it also feeds into the narrative that Putin is going to drive his own countrymen into a revolt against him over high losses of human life (which, okay, that's not impossible, but we have no idea how likely it is) - "the Russian campaign so far has been unimaginative and plodding" - they drove 90+ km into Kherson oblast in less than a day. They were able to get into Kiev's suburbs in less than 48 hours. Never mind the fact that "unimaginative" is a useless descriptor when talking about military operations, it's not at all accurate to describe the pace of the Russian advance as plodding. - again, he mentions the Russians want a "low-cost victory", which is wrong from the standpoint of Russian/Soviet doctrine, but is in his interests to say because if they WANT a low-cost victory, but are GETTING high losses, then it plays into the narrative that the Russians are bad at war and are losing - "these deep operations ... don't appear to be driven by sensible operational needs" - if the paradrop into Kiev airports worked, then the war would likely already be over. That it didn't is a palpable failure on their side, yes, but it's pretty clear that there was a "sensible operational need", i.e. to end the war quickly. - "the Russians, with an air force that is vastly bigger and more capable, did not achieve air superiority before the invasion" - in the first place, air supremacy is different from air superiority. Russia might lack the former, but they certainly have the latter. Further, that Russian planes are getting shot down by SAMs is not a question of air superiority, because it's not the Ukrainian air force that's making those shoot-downs - the call-out to Russian logistics being bad is founded on socmed posts about Russian vehicles being found on the side of the road without fuel. Those are anecdotes. And they're using it to project this WW2-level idea that "the Russians keep overextending their supply lines", which was the default excuse that Nazi generals fall back on when describing their retreats followed by their counterattacks. - "the Russian forces are just not up to this task without resort to more traditional methods of methodical, highly destructive warfare" - as opposed to the American way of war, which just skips right ahead to highly destructive warfare without even trying, right? - "Their Ukrainian opponents have clearly planned and wargamed their overall defensive scheme of maneuver over many years." - it's especially galling to say this when the Russians are already in Kiev, and there are no large-scale organized army formations opposing them in that area! - "The Ukrainians have been masters in the use of strategic communications to provide transparency for the world about the Russian invasion. They have also provided inspiring stories, such as this heroic sapper, that provides the iron in the spine of soldiers & civilians." - what this actually means is that the Ukrainians have a great social media disinformation campaign that's backed by Western media, up to and including this very thread we're commenting on
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thanks for the analysis. i gave up on that stinky thread after the fifth post. a canary would choke on the copium.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:thanks for the analysis. i gave up on that stinky thread after the fifth post. a canary would choke on the copium. the canary is the first to die from copium!!! (excellent post gradenko)
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:this time the posting war may actually get people killed by convincing ukrainians to face down thermobaric rockets yeah I think a lot of people are going to die. this war was a huge unforced error. just unbelievably stupid. they are looking at a well armed seriously committed insurgency in a large country without sectarian divisions. man made horrors beyond our comprehension.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:a large country without sectarian divisions. this doesn’t seem especially accurate given that three oblasts have seceded within the decade
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indigi posted:this doesn’t seem especially accurate given that three oblasts have seceded within the decade the reality of those as mere excuses externally manufactured vs real internal national divides would seem matter. it would be quite dangerous to stake how an occupation might go on a romantic narrative attempting to restore a lost past.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:without sectarian divisions. mmmmmmmmmmmmm I dunno about this part
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so y’all think the gap between Russians in Ukraine and Ukrainians was say equivalent to Shia and Sunni? maybe in Estonia or the Baltic. but lol Russian vessel crewing companies didn’t seem to think so. done hosed it all up now though.
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there are national groups one never sees mixed in vessel crewing. Turk/Greek, Japanese / S. Korean or Chinese, Indian/Pakistani. these are good shorthand for who really hates who. But Eastern Europeans (esp Ukrainians)and Russians... always together and esp by Russian crewing companies. lmao.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:the reality of those as mere excuses externally manufactured vs real internal national divides would seem matter. lmao. lol.
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The protect of reconstructing broken origin myths... first what broken origin myth... code:
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This really seems like you're talking about political issues which are more relevant for the Ukraine war thread. I know it sounds contradictory, but this thread needs to stay focused on military matters and material conditions rather than speculating on how politics will determine the course of a war.
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