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How are u posted:Why wouldn't The Guardian be allowed? They're an excellent, reputable newspaper. They’re extremely left liberal biased. Not CSPAM levels but enough to be an unreliable source at times.
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fatherboxx posted:Would steve1989 eat Russian rations expired in 2015? No kvass?
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Saint Celestine posted:I thought the big advantage of Javelin/NLAW is that they are fire and forget and don't need constant sight on target? Yes, those static ATGMs like Kornet etc need constant line of sight. Doesn't really work when there are trees all around the road or there's some rolling hills on the highway. Maybe if there is some fields and farmland around the road they are of use. With low end stuff like RPGs and Javelin, NLAW you can just pop out of cover, shoot the poo poo and pop back where you come from without them having time to realize what's going on.
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D34THROW posted:Now part of me is wondering if the Ukraine invasion is some sort of play to distract from uber-authoritarian fascist bullshit going into effect in Russia that's just not going to go away. My Russian friend is offering me extremely good odds against, I am not taking him on the bet.
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Charlotte Hornets posted:Bet the milk powder tastes good Expiration dates is only a recommendation. Not an actual limit. I mean its only 7 years old.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but US is expelling RUS spies from UN. https://twitter.com/USUNSpox/status/1498395166272634890
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Randarkman posted:Again no, that's very likely not true. Not at this point, not with the limited size of the Russian invasion force. Pre-invasion, it was the largest force amassed on the border of another country in modern history. Post-invasion, it's of limited size and likely to fizzle out shortly.
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fatherboxx posted:Would steve1989 eat Russian rations expired in 2015? I see they received the rations from Finland already.
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javi posted:Not sure if this has been posted yet, but US is expelling RUS spies from UN. https://twitter.com/USUNSpox/status/1498395166272634890
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Rapulum_Dei posted:They’re extremely left liberal biased. Not CSPAM levels but enough to be an unreliable source at times. The Guardian is a standard newspaper of record in the UK, akin to the Los Angeles Times, Le Monde, or Der Spiegel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record
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Cross posting from the GBS thread because I'm looking for actual information and that may be the wrong place to get it The big point that pro-Russia people keep coming back to is that Ukraine bombed and killed 200 children in Donbas in 2014. My Google searches show nothing about this, most of them return back with Ukrainian children that were killed by Russia in the last week. So my question is basically a.) Did this actually happen or is this pure propaganda and b.) Is this more nuanced than just Ukrainians slaughtered children I'm pro-Ukraine and this seems like a propaganda talking point so thanks for any clarification
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Rapulum_Dei posted:They’re extremely left liberal biased. Not CSPAM levels but enough to be an unreliable source at times. As already said, their opinion articles are horrendous dogshit but the foreign reporting is pretty good. And I'm saying that as someone who had a Guardian subscription as a college lib and cancelled it during the start of the Iraq War. See also: the Financial Times
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Upgrade posted:Prior to this how was the Russian military regarded by experts? No idea about experts, but as a historian in Michigan I have sat through endless amounts of Mil Nerd chuds telling me how badass they are and how the weak Soy-boi US would get destroyed in a battle with the Great MANLY MAN army, so I think this whole thing is darkly loving hilarious, besides all the unnecessary young lives thrown in the dumpster for some demented old Russian boomer's dying brain fantasies. 
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Upgrade posted:Prior to this how was the Russian military regarded by experts? Fine, it was well respected as one of the strongest at land-based combat. Trashy at urban warfare, best in the world indirect fire (artillery, air defence), okay air force, clown navy, pretty good at WW2 poo poo with tank files rolling through a European steppe.
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:Pre-invasion, it was the largest force amassed on the border of another country in modern history. Post-invasion, it's of limited size and likely to fizzle out shortly. The US + UK had more against Iraq. Ukraine is huge, has not been crippled by a decade of sanctions, has a large army and borders countries through which aid can be received. This may not have been enough.
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javi posted:Not sure if this has been posted yet, but US is expelling RUS spies from UN. https://twitter.com/USUNSpox/status/1498395166272634890 So the entire Trump clan?
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fatherboxx posted:Would steve1989 eat Russian rations expired in 2015? He has a more discerning palate, a 1995 vintage would be his thing.
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Squiggly posted:Cross posting from the GBS thread because I'm looking for actual information and that may be the wrong place to get it There's probably a pretty good reason you can't find anything about it on Google, if you think about it.
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Xarn posted:My Russian friend is offering me extremely good odds against, I am not taking him on the bet. Wait, what is your friend saying?
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Randarkman posted:Again no, that's very likely not true. Not at this point, not with the limited size of the Russian invasion force. I mean to say the currently committed troops outnumber the Ukranian ones and appear to be able to maintain a wide front while the Ukranians have to pick their fights.
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Zephro posted:What about things like the NLAW? Minimal backblast so you can fire it from inside a building without cooking yourself, which makes it easier to hide / not draw attention; it's fire-and-forget so no need for constant line of sight; it's very light (12kg) so no need for tripods or anything like that; it's designed to do top-down attacks on much weaker turret armour. The main disadvantage vs bigger heavier stuff is a shorter range but that doesn't really matter in a city. Current-gen, the crew has a decent chance of surviving. Also depends on things like reactive armor. And yeah, you can still destroy tanks in the modern age with the right soldier, equipment, and tactics, but I'm kind of shadowboxing with anyone who goes into hysterics every time they see a burning tank on the news, declaring the MBT to be dead when I don't see the same sentiments every time a chopper gets clipped with an RPG-7.
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Squiggly posted:Cross posting from the GBS thread because I'm looking for actual information and that may be the wrong place to get it Google is hinting already that it's a completely fictional point.
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Randarkman posted:The US + UK had more against Iraq. Ukraine is huge, has not been crippled by a decade of sanctions, has a large army and borders countries through which aid can be received. And Ukraine already has 8 years experience in land and urban warfare against this very opponent, and a lot more national cohesion than Iraq. War is still less than a week old, we all expected it to be a mess, but from the combat results, immediate economic fallout and unrest back in Russia, this is going south for Putin real quick.
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Squiggly posted:Cross posting from the GBS thread because I'm looking for actual information and that may be the wrong place to get it There is a memorial to children killed in Donbas in Donetsk with ~150 names. It's not from one singular event. [edit:] To the others who replied, you know, even though it's a misrepresentation of events, you might want to check yourselves on your biases if you just instantly dismiss it instead of looking into it. BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Fine, it was well respected as one of the strongest at land-based combat. Trashy at urban warfare, best in the world indirect fire (artillery, air defence), okay air force, clown navy, pretty good at WW2 poo poo with tank files rolling through a European steppe. To add to this: the Russian air force while viewed as competent also didn't have the experience or training for more dynamic ground attack and SEAD operations which they need now in Ukraine after obliterating Ukrainian static AA and radars. They're still a competent force with weaknesses that you can see on display here.
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There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing.
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Deteriorata posted:There's probably a pretty good reason you can't find anything about it on Google, if you think about it. cinci zoo sniper posted:Google is hinting already that it's a completely fictional point. Thanks for the speedy responses, kind of figured but also due diligence and such
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Randarkman posted:The US + UK had more against Iraq. Ukraine is huge, has not been crippled by a decade of sanctions, has a large army and borders countries through which aid can be received. They forgot to say "in Europe", which is how this was talked about in the lead up to it. Also, about the aid - I wonder if this tweet is of significance https://twitter.com/OSINTNS/status/1498359109095239686
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I’m seeing something that probably is normal in times like this, but worrying - the emergence of urban legends. Currently one of the myths is that people proposing on the border to give a lift to women are brothel owners looking to kidnap them. This is extra sad, as if that thing was commonly shared in Friday, when I happened to give a lift to three young girls from the border, I’d probably be beaten up or arrested for even trying. Another story comes from Ukraine - apparently many villages are devoid of men, leaving mostly older women to fend for themselves. There’s gossip of packs of men traveling between villages to rape and steal. None if these stories have been corroborated, yet they’re mindlessly repeated by people.
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Flesnolk posted:There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing. I think it got laughed at 20-30 pages ago.
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Rappaport posted:I'll be rude and answer my own question, I came across a Guardian article (I hope Guardian is allowed
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Flesnolk posted:There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing. With 100x the casualties or something to do it.
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Zephro posted:https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1498392515262746630 I am beyond shocked they that Musk actually came through in a timely manner. It is completely out of character, but a fantastic development.
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Flesnolk posted:There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing. I think that waging a war on the other side of the planet vs rolling your military into your neighbor isn't comparable
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Flesnolk posted:There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing. Outside of some doctrinal issues either active duty or military scientists would get excited about, comparing these two conflicts side by side is pointless, to put it mildly.
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Mokotow posted:I’m seeing something that probably is normal in times like this, but worrying - the emergence of urban legends. There’s always wild tales spread during times of crisis and war. At the onset of WWI, Germany, for instance had untold number of crazy stories circling the country, like “Russian spies tried to murder the kaiser!” Or “a French armoured car filled with gold is speeding through Germany on its way to Russia, causing mayhem wherever it goes!” These stories you mention are likely not founded in reality, unpleasant though they are.
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Flesnolk posted:There are like 500 pages since I checked this thread last night, so this one might've been posted already, but what do people think about this thread? It feels like an interesting analysis, and a more sober one than most I've been seeing. Uses the bad pro Russian misleading map. Distances involved are widely exaggerated and as early as last night Kharkiv was getting new NLAWs and Javelins. The Russians don’t have full control of what it claims. Other then that; sure it might be over for the conventional forces in the east.
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Can someone explain to me how we can just openly supply Ukraine with weapons and aid the way we are doing? How is it not a major escalation and provocation? Yeah, it was done in all the proxy wars in the past but was it this flagrant?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:They forgot to say "in Europe", which is how this was talked about in the lead up to it. https://twitter.com/OSINTNS/status/1498363196343832576
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I mean frankly I'm shocked it took them this long to say this out loud. I would have expected this two days ago when countries started committing actual arms and equipment to Ukraine, or whenever that first started. But I don't know, maybe they thought it would be some scary words or something?
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