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Aren't the Israelis fairly involved in the UAV world? That might be a way for them to contribute to the party if they see fit after their citizen was killed. Also, CNN says the International Criminal Court is now investigating Russia for war crimes. e- https://twitter.com/USUNSpox/status/1498395166272634890 CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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mmtt posted:Ukraine MoD just claimed 96 tanks, 20 Grad MLRS & 8 fuel trucks on a hit on a fuel dump in the east of Kyiv. It's been widely assumed that the quiet night in Kyiv last night - which this was outside of - was due to the Russians trying to regroup and resupply for a major offensive. If they hit all that as they were hooked up to fuel for a major push...
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How long does it take to emplace / displace a Buk or any of those other systems larger than a SPAAG? Are the Russians just not setting them up because they keep getting told "pack up, we're moving again" or because they're just doing a series of short halts or something? Are they just lazy? I'm sure that they're not hearing from their buddies in neighboring units "hey, we just got hosed up, better set up your AA, bro." e: Don't actually answer this question. I assume it's at least a few minutes but not an absurd length of time. Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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mmtt posted:Ukraine MoD just claimed 96 tanks, 20 Grad MLRS & 8 fuel trucks on a hit on a fuel dump in the east of Kyiv. Ok now even for me that’s stretching credibility.
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Cythereal posted:It's been widely assumed that the quiet night in Kyiv last night - which this was outside of - was due to the Russians trying to regroup and resupply for a major offensive. If they hit all that as they were hooked up to fuel for a major push... https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1498383109271793668 Looks like they are being hit as they are refueling to me. No localization yet.
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Unmanned Aerial Vehicles dunking on anti-air systems is just a "What the gently caress?" situation to me.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Ok now even for me that’s stretching credibility. Maybe this is what the footage of that massive explosion was?
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At this point, what is holding the Russians back from getting some fortifications up, get some AA running and establishing an FOB instead of just idling in vulnerable columns on exposed highways? Is the Ukrainian mud that horrible?
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Fragrag posted:At this point, what is holding the Russians back from getting some fortifications up, get some AA running and establishing an FOB instead of just idling in vulnerable columns on exposed highways? Is the Ukrainian mud that horrible? this is the billion dollar question. nothing theyre doing makes any sense.
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Utter incompetence and it would bring the entire convoy to a stand still to set up air defense with how awful the line is.
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Fragrag posted:At this point, what is holding the Russians back from getting some fortifications up, get some AA running and establishing an FOB instead of just idling in vulnerable columns on exposed highways? Is the Ukrainian mud that horrible? If it's anything like muskeg, then yes. They'd just sink into the ground.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Ok now even for me that’s stretching credibility. I'm also skeptical, but I also just watched a montage of drone strikes where the Russian idea of tactical spacing looks like a Tetris let's play. So who knows. Jarmak fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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Jarmak posted:Russian idea of the tactical spacing looks like a Tetris let's play. The air is warmer where the exhaust is thicker.
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Fragrag posted:At this point, what is holding the Russians back from getting some fortifications up, get some AA running and establishing an FOB instead of just idling in vulnerable columns on exposed highways? Is the Ukrainian mud that horrible? Maybe if an armored column that was supposed to in victory parade in Kyiv two days ago starts requesting concrete and guard towers their commander would be yelled at for not being aggressive enough? Even if doing so would help win the war faster?
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Fragrag posted:At this point, what is holding the Russians back from getting some fortifications up, get some AA running and establishing an FOB instead of just idling in vulnerable columns on exposed highways? Is the Ukrainian mud that horrible? That would require functional logistics.
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Apparently Russian troops are being given rations that expired seven years ago? Eating expired rations was a joke on How to With John Wilson, not a winning strategy https://twitter.com/ALF_rednecks/status/1498365532134854661
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A Bad Poster posted:If it's anything like muskeg, then yes. They'd just sink into the ground. Doesn't stop literally every competent army in Europe from doing it all the time. It's completely unbelievable, yet Russian mil really are this wet paper house we're seeing. Building on a foundation of corruption gets you a house of lies? ThisIsJohnWayne fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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A Bad Poster posted:If it's anything like muskeg, then yes. They'd just sink into the ground. "the deficit mounts. and now sir, you have us stuck in a quagmire" 
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Apparently Russian troops are being given rations that expired seven years ago? Eating expired rations was a joke on How to With John Wilson, not a winning strategy Who needs decadent Western MREs when you can have expired rations?
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https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1498409887205937155?s=20&t=q3Ud4RjXxDUdWrv6k052xg this is insane right, the basing out of poland? this can't be happening? can anyone find another source? seems like an obvious route to escalation with NATO
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Apparently Russian troops are being given rations that expired seven years ago? Eating expired rations was a joke on How to With John Wilson, not a winning strategy Send 'em to Steve1989MREInfo, he'll happily dig in. nice, mmkay
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pmchem posted:https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1498409887205937155?s=20&t=q3Ud4RjXxDUdWrv6k052xg If you’re going to do this you might as well “give” them a couple of B-2s that they can fly in from Diego Garcia.
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ChaseSP posted:Utter incompetence and it would bring the entire convoy to a stand still to set up air defense with how awful the line is. Why bring the convoy to a stand still to do all the work to set up air defense when you can just bring it to a stand still in the middle of civilian traffic waiting for the lights to change? https://twitter.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/1498331308887613447
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pmchem posted:https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1498409887205937155?s=20&t=q3Ud4RjXxDUdWrv6k052xg Yes, it seems pretty  levels of escalation.
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Crini posted:If you’re going to do this you might as well “give” them a couple of B-2s that they can fly in from Diego Garcia. I'm on board with this, either eliminate the russians or hail ss18 satan
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pmchem posted:https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1498409887205937155?s=20&t=q3Ud4RjXxDUdWrv6k052xg Those will get used hard and written off, if they aren't lost in combat, leading these nations to buy F-35s and munitions to go with... Yeah surely we're in the midst of some Lockmart salesman's wet dreams, no?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Who needs decadent Western MREs when you can have expired rations?
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Arrath posted:Those will get used hard and written off, if they aren't lost in combat, leading these nations to buy F-35s and munitions to go with... the point is that Poland is a NATO member and Russia is unlikely to not retaliate against attacks originating from their airbases
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Sorry to be the killjoy. https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1498410480506966020?s=20&t=sR20UU8JKBc52twEhmgCIw
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It's bullshit, Slovakia at least has already categorically denied they're giiving them any Migs.
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pmchem posted:https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1498409887205937155?s=20&t=q3Ud4RjXxDUdWrv6k052xg Yeah seems like there would be immediate issues with them attacking a target in Ukraine, being chased back to Poland, then the pursuer either shooting them down over Poland or being engaged by NATO aircraft?
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I still think Russia takes everything. The question is - how long do they keep it with people like this everywhere? https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1498416077575008263?t=PEOZc-wTRN3i1QyQsLn1Gw&s=19
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pmchem posted:the point is that Poland is a NATO member and Russia is unlikely to not retaliate against attacks originating from their airbases Yeah I get that, either strikes against the airbases or some missiles "accidentally" get pointed at whatever JSTARS or tanker we have on station while trying to shoot down those planes. Presto changeo, poo poo really pops off.
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pmchem posted:the point is that Poland is a NATO member and Russia is unlikely to not retaliate against attacks originating from their airbases Yeah. Ukraine strikes Russian assets from Poland Russia launches cruise missile strike on airbase in Poland Poland invokes article 5 NATO launches cruise missile strike on Russian strategic bomber base. That seems dangerously close to thermonuclear war.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Apparently Russian troops are being given rations that expired seven years ago? Eating expired rations was a joke on How to With John Wilson, not a winning strategy I don't know that Russia has the same climate control storage that the US does but we regularly keep MRES many years past the written expiration date on them. In OIF 1 we were eating MREs that had M&Ms with mid 1990s references on them. If you deep freeze everything they will last indefinitely. Once they thaw the shelf life starts.
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It seems many of the guys riding in are barely out of basic and haven't really grasped that the paper they were pressured into signing during their exercise was a contract upgrading their conscription to an enlistment. It seems the reason some of these dudes are so casual about operations is that they aren't even really aware this isn't an exercise any more, they're fighting a for loving real war.  It's like signing up for the National Guard and then one day you're told to roll across the Rio Grande and take Monterrey. Somewhere halfway between Laredo and Monterrey you realize you're actually invading because the Mexican army is shooting at your APC. Jasper Tin Neck fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Feb 28, 2022 |
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https://twitter.com/borzou/status/1498393087952961541 Someone come get their dumbfuck dad before he gets hurt.
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That reminds me, have we heard from "ranger school and all that good stuff" Jesus tab soldier yet?
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Burt posted:Here's a little thought exercise. What's the probability of the Russian Army Chief of Staff, that just got fired, having decided when Putin came up with this plan, to just go "nope, not starting WWIII for this idiot" and actually actively working out a plan that he knew could not succeed? Here is A. Vindman's tweet: https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1498007949104533508 When I heard about this, I knew things were going pear shaped for the Russians. If true, this is massive. Gerasimov is the big brain behind the modern Russian military. When I worked a Russia account, we took him very seriously.
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