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bird with big dick posted:Very clever of Ford to get around the chip shortage by only continuing to make the most undesirable models. EV makes sense, $6k for 50 miles, range anxiety is out of control and they need the batteries, I could not bring myself to order that. However, I can't fathom what is the supply constraint on the Premium over the Select, maybe the glass roof? That seems like the only common donominator between the Premium and R1 being axed and the Select and GT still being for order.
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I haven't been a fast car guy since I did 0-100 in under 6 seconds on my R1, I feel my Leaf delivers more than adequate acceleration, even at 60MPH. I'm also a lofetime Ford and Mustang fanboy, owning 4 Mustangs, including everything from an '04 with a blower dyno'd at 432HP to severely compromised models (my first was a V6 automatic, lol). That being said, if I tried to stomp the go-fast pedal in my performance car, and it unleashed 500+ ponies that died down to Leaf levels of power in a second like you described, I'd probably poo poo-can it too. That's just unacceptable, and a huge loving blunder considering they named it the "Mach-E GT" and not the "Ford Edge electric." It's very disappointing overall and I hope they remedy the situation.
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blk posted:Thanks, everyone - do most chargers have some sort of mechanical retention mechanism, like a clip you need to depress to release it? Or do they just slide in like any other electrical plug? The type 2 connector used in the EU does not have a physical button on the charge plug, it only has an electrically actuated retention mechanism in the car. Your spring loaded automatic cable retraction scheme (?) would work in the EU, provided the cable retraction force does not overcome the actuator that retracts the retention device by friction.
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blk posted:Thanks, everyone - do most chargers have some sort of mechanical retention mechanism, like a clip you need to depress to release it? Or do they just slide in like any other electrical plug? Not only this, but the (older) CHAdeMO standard locks inside the charger side! This is lots of fun when you have started a session and then discove the touchscreen is broken. If you go back a couple dozen pages you can read about me driving 45 minutes in an attempt to get Cruft Jr's LEAF disconnected from the L3 station. It hit 100% before I got there and disconnected itself, but that was a fun mental exercise of "who's legally authorized to forcibly release my vehicle from this charger"
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Warrior Princess posted:My Chevy Volt can absolutely go into drive and move while actively plugged into L2 Do you have a gen2? Because if so something is very broken with your charger or car. When a J1772 handle is connected to the car, it should prevent you from shifting the car out of park. Even if the EVSE has no power, the car can still detect the handle plugged into the charge port. Not sure about the gen 1, but it should be similar.
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stevewm posted:Do you have a gen2? Because if so something is very broken with your charger or car. Must have something amiss then. More than once I've plugged in in my driveway, had the cable dangling off the ground from the port to the charger, got back in, and inched it forward a bit to get the cable on the ground. It's a 2018, so gen2.
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Mar 2, 2022 07:11
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bird with big dick posted:At any speed higher than 50 mph you floor it in a Mach-E GT and you either get: What was the engineering reason for limiting the Mach-E GTs top end accelaration? was it to protect the motors or battery or something?
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CalvinandHobbes posted:What was the engineering reason for limiting the Mach-E GTs top end accelaration? was it to protect the motors or battery or something? The brilliant minds at Ford decided to gut performance to save a few bucks by reusing the same cooling system as the non-GT models lmao.
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cruft posted:Not only this, but the (older) CHAdeMO standard locks inside the charger side! This is lots of fun when you have started a session and then discove the touchscreen is broken. The charger should have an emergency stop - just hit that and the cable will unlock
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Mar 2, 2022 09:49
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Depending on how lazy the install is, how safety conscious the designer was and/or how regulations look like, that might also leave every other charger connected to the same junction powerless.
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Mar 2, 2022 10:44
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"Model e" seems like weird branding if you assume at some point it's all they'll make but you do you ford. Maybe it's a corporate only organizational term and won't actually prepend car names. https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1498992748514447371
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It's just corporate divisions reorganizing. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2022/03/02/ford-ceo-jim-farley-unveils-plan-ev-model-e/6981544001/
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Qwijib0 posted:"Model e" seems like weird branding if you assume at some point it's all they'll make but you do you ford. Maybe it's a corporate only organizational term and won't actually prepend car names. I don’t think anyone at Ford is talking to anyone else since their charging network is branded as “Blue Oval”
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At least they didn't call it something dumb like "Ford+".  ...gently caress.
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“Ford is such a remarkably stupid company” he says as he gets into his Fiesta ST
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Warrior Princess posted:Must have something amiss then. More than once I've plugged in in my driveway, had the cable dangling off the ground from the port to the charger, got back in, and inched it forward a bit to get the cable on the ground. It's a 2018, so gen2. I could have sworn I've done this in my '17 but I just checked and it stays locked in park. I wonder if a software update was done when I had a recall. It is very obnoxious when you forget to close the charge door though.
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i actually think the reorg makes sense, there's already pretty clear divisions in traditional OEMs between legacy and EV, and trying to prioritize either one effectively is very difficult since they're all blurred together. a more clear delineation allows both divisions to prioritize and focus on what they are good at. and they can both be bad at product launches, but separately! be interesting to see how this works with the dealer network....
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i actually think the reorg makes sense, there's already pretty clear divisions in traditional OEMs between legacy and EV, and trying to prioritize either one effectively is very difficult since they're all blurred together. a more clear delineation allows both divisions to prioritize and focus on what they are good at. and they can both be bad at product launches, but separately! comedy "your contract is with ford blue, this is an entirely separate unit" option maybe.
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QuarkJets posted:I went to a Polestar 2 from a 1995 sedan with a casette deck, I didn't post much about the car itt because I didn't know which features were normal for modern cars and didn't want people to be like "uh wtf yeah it's normal for cars to have a hood that you don't need to prop open with a piece of 2x4 that you cut yourself" My wife is reluctant to give up her 2003 Mercedes C-Class (and gas hog) because it has a cassette player, maybe the last model to have that. I went from a all manual (shift, windows, locks and seat) 2000 Toyota to the Kia Niro EV. Quite the change.
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Wow, I just learned that there's people out there who prefer cassette tapes.
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I hope Ford offers a larger battery option in the Transit EV in 2 years so I can get one of those do a van convert on it. Or maybe Mercedes will bring in the electric Sprinter. Or the Rivian Van (I have a business, see?).
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Wow, I just learned that there's people out there who prefer cassette tapes. True enthusiasts keep an under-dash record player.
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I have a bluetooth wax cylinder player.
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Qwijib0 posted:comedy "your contract is with ford blue, this is an entirely separate unit" option maybe. mashallah
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dissss posted:The charger should have an emergency stop And yet.    This is the ChargePoint Express 250. You can read all about it on their page. cruft fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Wow, I just learned that there's people out there who prefer cassette tapes. Aux ports, bluetooth, and the ability to play MP3s off of a USB stick or SD card made those reasons obsolete. For the last decade and change it's basically just lazy people who don't want to learn a new thing, plus a few "audiophile" types with screws loose who insist that analog formats are always better.
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Mar 2, 2022 17:32
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dissss posted:The charger should have an emergency stop - just hit that and the cable will unlock Hitting the estop slams the contactors open in less than 5ms, which can damage your car. It’s an absolute last resort.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Hitting the estop slams the contactors open in less than 5ms, which can damage your car. It’s an absolute last resort. Is it possible to explain to an idiot like me how this damages your car? Does it have something to do with inductive load, like unplugging an MRI while it's operating?
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Rivian just did 3 years of price adjustments in a single go with an email to pre-order holders that didn’t even explain why or apologize. I had a pre-order that I was keeping open, 50/50 on following through. The price jumped around $15k. I've already canceled the preorder and requested a refund deposit. I thought about giving Rivian a chance to respond to the backlash, but decided that they'd handled the first part too poorly.
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Steel is up 25% and aluminum is up 90% since 2018, and we are losing money on each vehicle sold, but hollllly hell what a terrible way to handle this. I’m ashamed for the company. 
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Wizard of the Deep posted:I had a pre-order that I was keeping open, 50/50 on following through. The price jumped around $15k. I've already canceled the preorder and requested a refund deposit. I thought about giving Rivian a chance to respond to the backlash, but decided that they'd handled the first part too poorly. I don't blame you at all. It's complete bullshit.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Wow, I just learned that there's people out there who prefer cassette tapes. Exhibit A:  Exhibit B: 
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Wizard of the Deep posted:I had a pre-order that I was keeping open, 50/50 on following through. The price jumped around $15k. I've already canceled the preorder and requested a refund deposit. I thought about giving Rivian a chance to respond to the backlash, but decided that they'd handled the first part too poorly. Had a friend do the same thing. Have a feeling this is going to put a bad taste in peoples mouths. Like a few other said, my $100 pre-order with Tesla locked me into the price when I configured it, by the time I got my MYP it had gone up a few thousand for a new build.
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I was visiting a hyundai dealership and checked out the ioniq 5. It actually feels too small for our needs so I’m waffling about cancelling the preorder. The angled rear cargo thing so many cars do is stupid as hell. My bmw 325 wagon had more usable room in the back. I don’t think the dog carriers will fit at all in this without pushing the rear seats way up. They fit just fine in the wife’s santa fe sport! Disappointing.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Rivian just did 3 years of price adjustments in a single go with an email to pre-order holders that didn’t even explain why or apologize. I had a feeling the price was too low given the size of the battery and being a total startup. Still, I hope they keep going, we need more challengers to the legacy automakers, and it's still a really cool product.
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priznat posted:I was visiting a hyundai dealership and checked out the ioniq 5. It actually feels too small for our needs so I’m waffling about cancelling the preorder. The angled rear cargo thing so many cars do is stupid as hell. My bmw 325 wagon had more usable room in the back. I don’t think the dog carriers will fit at all in this without pushing the rear seats way up. They fit just fine in the wife’s santa fe sport! Disappointing. the wind blows Taycan Turismo
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priznat posted:I was visiting a hyundai dealership and checked out the ioniq 5. It actually feels too small for our needs so I’m waffling about cancelling the preorder. The angled rear cargo thing so many cars do is stupid as hell. My bmw 325 wagon had more usable room in the back. I don’t think the dog carriers will fit at all in this without pushing the rear seats way up. They fit just fine in the wife’s santa fe sport! Disappointing. The Model Y is the only EV SUV I looked at that didn't just feel like a fat liftback to me. And big oof to that Rivian news, I was mildly torn that I should have gone with it over a Y, not so much now.
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cruft posted:Is it possible to explain to an idiot like me how this damages your car? Does it have something to do with inductive load, like unplugging an MRI while it's operating? because this kind of thing could happen: https://youtu.be/-olPXm8oJyw
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mattfl posted:Had a friend do the same thing. Wow Tesla's deposit is much lower than when I bought my cars! The ones I bought in 2018 and 2010 has $2,500 deposits.
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