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Comstar posted:The timetable to Putin's End is accelerating. So had a quick check about the Irish aircraft lessors stuff, and here seems to be a recent news article that explains exactly what's happening a little more: https://simpleflying.com/irish-planes-russia/
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ZombieLenin posted:Unconfirmed UA offensive action in Donbas as a reaction to air assault on Kharkov. Interesting, if confirmed. 95th UA VDV is an elite unit, and their peacetime base got hosed up by a Kalibr cruise missile earlier yesterday. If I had to speculate myself, this might actually be for the ease of Donetsk frontline forces regrouping or movement - Kharkiv is ways off from there, and has more pressing, local problems, I’d say.
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ummel posted:https://twitter.com/francska1/status/1498998487324807168 Lmfao it's just like Tories burning Nikes just with slavs
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KitConstantine posted:This I don't like because it's asking noncombatants to travel to a warzone, but since Russia brought the warzone to noncombatants... No, it's asking noncombatants to travel to a special military operation, totally different. No problem at all, have their moms come pick them up.
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ZombieLenin posted:The failure is the Imperial Russian navy in the Russo-Japanese war, a war fought in 1904 and 1905, between Tsarist Russia and Imperial Japan does not really tell you much about the current capabilities of either the Russian or Japanese navies. I'm wondering if the current generation of Russian sailors has ever seen Battleship Potemkin.
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Was there no response from Russia to Biden's State of the Union? You'd think there would.
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Yeah, Kharkiv is a warning to Kyiv. urban destruction, no gore https://twitter.com/michaelh992/status/1498999379411312649 A few pages back someone was asking about a grandma trying to get to a train in kyiv, I can't find the post to quote, but maybe this can help? https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1499018095003942912 I broke the parse but it's a map of working train stations. ummel fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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KitConstantine posted:Re: Odessa - Further down the thread there is telezoomed video of the ship sighted in the general direction of that smoke column - the Slava class guided missile cruiser Moskva, the most powerful ship currently in the Black Sea.
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NTRabbit posted:Further down the thread there is telezoomed video of the ship sighted in the general direction of that smoke column - the Slava class guided missile cruiser Moskva, the most powerful ship currently in the Black Sea. Which is also the ship that was told to go gently caress itself, I believe
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Grouchio posted:Was there no response from Russia to Biden's State of the Union? You'd think there would. Pretty sure Kim Reynolds handled it
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Grouchio posted:Was there no response from Russia to Biden's State of the Union? You'd think there would. Yes, some lady called Kim Reynolds delivered it.
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NTRabbit posted:Further down the thread there is telezoomed video of the ship sighted in the general direction of that smoke column - the Slava class guided missile cruiser Moskva, the most powerful ship currently in the Black Sea. Wait, are you saying that the Moskva is on fire? That would be a pretty big deal, because that capital ship is the corner stone of the Russian Black Sea's Fleet. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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NTRabbit posted:Further down the thread there is telezoomed video of the ship sighted in the general direction of that smoke column - the Slava class guided missile cruiser Moskva, the most powerful ship currently in the Black Sea. According to here: https://ukranews.com/en/news/836500-zmiinyi-island-in-black-sea-attacked-from-russian-ships-border-service This was the warship that was told to go gently caress itself. Seems it did. 
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ZombieLenin posted:Wait, are you saying that a Moskva is on fire? That would be a pretty big deal, because that capital ship is the corner stone of the Russian Black Sea's Fleet. The smoke column is too far away to be seen from the shore, would take a satellite or recon plane to identify the source, just saying that within a similar timeframe the flagship of the Black Sea fleet and a smaller unidentified escort were also seen there. It's possible they had a stab at another cargo vessel, but I'd have thought by now the only ships anywhere near Odessa would be the Russian squadron.
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NTRabbit posted:Further down the thread there is telezoomed video of the ship sighted in the general direction of that smoke column - the Slava class guided missile cruiser Moskva, the most powerful ship currently in the Black Sea. Russki karabl idi na khui ZombieLenin posted:Wait, are you saying that a Moskva is on fire? That would be a pretty big deal, because that capital ship is the corner stone of the Russian Black Sea's Fleet. Sounds unlikely. At this point it could be an escort, could be defensive smoke screen, could be a cook who burned the crew's lunch. Or Admiral Kuznetsov somehow got past the Turks.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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dr_rat posted:According to here: https://ukranews.com/en/news/836500-zmiinyi-island-in-black-sea-attacked-from-russian-ships-border-service mark my words, they are going to sink a ship or two. they have captured enough poo poo and probably have a couple missiles.
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TheRat posted:Isn't actually sinking a ship really god drat difficult? yeah, but loving one up enough that it pulls back isnt "that" hard.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:mark my words, they are going to sink a ship or two. they have captured enough poo poo and probably have a couple missiles. If the Russians actually attempt a contested amphibious landing I do not think it will go well for them actually, but I wouldn't expect the actual warships to get close enough to be in any real danger from anti-tank weapons, or guns on tanks. The landing craft, sure... just not the warships. I would not expect the warships to take any hits to be honest except from anti-ship missiles, which Ukraine apparently has a few of their own design. Not many, but a few... both things (the small number and being locally designed and manufactured) making it hard to believe they actually hit a Russian warship with one.
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dr_rat posted:Was just going to post something on that. It feels and hopefully is... very relevant. It's like... there's no point in trying to go for a really big naval fuckup; Tsarist Russia took the all-time trophy.
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ZombieLenin posted:Wait, are you saying that the Moskva is on fire? That would be a pretty big deal, because that capital ship is the corner stone of the Russian Black Sea's Fleet. Russian ships seem to spend most of their existence on fire in some way, it's like their rest state. https://twitter.com/michaelblowers/status/789405013332271104
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The Russian disinformation groups seem to finally be getting their poo poo together. I'm seeing a lot more of it on twitter when I do city name searches or follow quote tweet chains. Lots of accusations that the Ukrainians are using people as human shields, shelling their own cities, and refusing to let foreigners leave cities under fire. It seems especially intense around Mariupol, which isn't surprising. The Russians really want to capture that city - it would connect their units in Crimea to the ones in Donbas and would cut Ukraine off from the Azov sea - so they're putting it under heavy artillery fire. It's also home to a large Greek population, which Russia is using in their information - accusing the 'Nazi Ukrainians' of refusing to let Greek citizens leave. How they are supposed to leave a city under fire is left as an exercise to the reader.
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ZombieLenin posted:If the Russians actually attempt a contested amphibious landing I do not think it will go well for them actually, but I wouldn't expect the actual warships to get close enough to be in any real danger from anti-tank weapons, or guns on tanks. The landing craft, sure... just not the warships. they use APC type poo poo apperently so yeah ton are hosed.
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TheRat posted:Isn't actually sinking a ship really god drat difficult? I mean yes, but if the ship has catastrophically bad damage control it could be burned to a worthless hulk with a lot less effort, think about the USS Bonhomme Richard in 2020, reduced to the wreckers by one alleged arsonist. A hit from a Bayraktar would start a fire like that, but I don't think a daylight raid by one of them over water is even possible. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Runaktla posted:Am I in clancychat territory if Biden going after Russky billionaires and being bold with Putin may mean that he’s got an inside scoop within Russia’s political class that they’re cool to ouster him? Not really. I would caution against underestimating Putin's stranglehold on the domestic situation (the current oligarch class is made by Putin to a large extent, and the more independent ones have been killed, imprisoned, or run off). Crosby B. Alfred posted:Curious, Western politicians were getting briefings that this could be a 10-year war, so...
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Western politicians were getting briefings that this could be a 10-year war, so... Is there any source for this other than the British Foreign Secretary's off the cuff statements? Given the costs of war--this is probably costing Russia tens of billions of dollars each day--and the sanctions I doubt the Russians can afford a ten year war. This is the Russian Federation not the United States, so even before the sanctions the government would have been very hard pressed to pay for 10 years of war in Ukraine. The entire thing was predicated on the notion that the war would be quick.
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TheRat posted:Isn't actually sinking a ship really god drat difficult? No you can usually just open some valves. Oh front the outside? Probably.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Western politicians were getting briefings that this could be a 10-year war, so... I mean, it has been eight years since it started already so...
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NTRabbit posted:I mean yes, but if the ship has catastrophically bad damage control it could be burned to a worthless hulk with a lot less effort, think about the USS Bonhomme Richard in 2020, reduced to the wreckers by one alleged arsonist. Here's a good look at Russian navy's design philosophy. Their ships are packed to the brim with missiles and guns, with the downside that servicing them is cumbersome and if they were hit by a missile there would be hard not to hit something that makes secondary explosions. https://youtu.be/0oMH8MPl-tk
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Putin isn't going into be half accountable for war crimes, is he? He's going to be either dead or unaccountable
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Putin isn't going into be half accountable for war crimes, is he? depends if the country implodes(genuin posibility) but my guess is if that happens. he will "die of a heart attack"
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ZombieLenin posted:Is there any source for this other than the British Foreign Secretary's off the cuff statements? Given the costs of war--this is probably costing Russia tens of billions of dollars each day--and the sanctions I doubt the Russians can afford a ten year war. depending on how you want to count Donbass, that's an eight year war and counting. While the UK Foreign Secretary is an absolute idiot, I don't think that the statement was "war of this nature at this tempo for 10 years." However, since Truss is a moron, I'm not totally discounting the possibility.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I mean, it has been eight years since it started already so... I mean sure, but there is orders of magnitude of a difference between the economic costs of a low-grade conflict on a static line of contact than the full-scale invasion and occupation of a country with a strong armed forces and a hostile population the size of Ukraine.
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