Gripweed posted:

You know that bit in Alice's Restaurant where he goes to the draft office and says "Sir, I wanna kill. I wanna see blood and guts and feel veins in my teeth. I mean, I wanna kill" And starts jumping up and down yelling Kill! Kill! Kill! and then an officer comes over and pins a medal to his chest and says "you're our boy"?

I wanna do that at the police recruitment office but about ticketing traffic violators.

Xaris posted:

it's gotten insanely bad compared to 2019. various city statistics and even nhtsa has backed up with actual data that drivers have become insane blood-frenzed psychos

im not gunna be surprised that the full 2021 data once it comes out is very grim. december 2021 was absolutely absurdly awful. i don't think ive ever seen so much insanity and stupidity from american carbrains before.

peep the last table. almost 30% increase in first-degree murders by americans


thats just fatalities too. injuries are way the gently caress up

Gripweed posted:

You know that bit in Alice's Restaurant where he goes to the draft office and says "Sir, I wanna kill. I wanna see blood and guts and feel veins in my teeth. I mean, I wanna kill" And starts jumping up and down yelling Kill! Kill! Kill! and then an officer comes over and pins a medal to his chest and says "you're our boy"?

I wanna do that at the police recruitment office but about ticketing traffic violators.

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I charge you to figure out why the accident rates & deaths are up since COVID. What are/where the causes? Did COVID cause everyone to lose their minds while driving? Or was COVID just something that was happening and people were just going to start driving badly?

You will notice that there have been a lot of bumps in the road, probably weather related.

Or are you telling us to stop driving & sit at home?

actionjackson posted:

this is my car-loving boomer dad's response to those fatality statistics

lol

ArmZ posted:

actionjackson posted:

stop driving & sit at home?

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Raising Crosswalks to Make Deadly Intersections Safer in New York

City officials want to install 100 raised crosswalks every year as part of a larger effort to redesign dangerous intersections.

The white-striped crosswalk sits on top of a hump of asphalt.

Pedestrians barely notice as they rush across, but drivers are in for a bumpy ride if they do not slow down.

The crosswalk in northern Manhattan was raised four inches in the fall to try to slow traffic and make pedestrians more visible as they navigate a busy intersection where 26 people — including 14 pedestrians — have been injured in motor vehicle crashes in the past five years.

“People are always trying to get somewhere fast and beat the light,” said Amy Boysen, 44, a sales executive. “There is so much going on, and no one’s looking at the pedestrian.”

Now, Mayor Eric Adams wants to raise hundreds of crosswalks across New York amid a surge in traffic violence during the pandemic, in part because of an epidemic of speeding and reckless driving. Citywide, a total of 273 people — including 125 pedestrians — were killed in crashes last year, the highest number of traffic deaths since 2013, according to city records.

Since Mr. Adams took office in January, another 37 people — including 20 pedestrians — have been killed in crashes as of February 27th.

The surge in traffic fatalities has sharply reversed the gains made under former Mayor Bill de Blasio, whose signature transportation policy, called Vision Zero, once set a goal of eliminating all traffic deaths.

It also comes during a pandemic boom in cycling and e-mobility and outdoor dining that has brought more people into the streets even as traffic, which briefly disappeared when the city largely shut down, has returned.

Raised crosswalks have been shown to make streets safer elsewhere, but in New York, a city with roughly 40,000 intersections, there are just 17 of them.

Starting this year, however, the city plans to add 100 raised crosswalks every year as part of a broader effort to redesign some of New York’s most dangerous intersections — a particularly perilous piece of the streetscape where a majority of pedestrians are killed or injured.

City officials will also increase enforcement to catch drivers who fail to yield to pedestrians, a violation that became far less of a focus during the pandemic when police officials said the department was stretched thin because officers had fallen ill or been diverted to protests.

“We are taking everything we have done to a higher level,” said Ydanis Rodriguez, who was appointed the city’s transportation commissioner by Mr. Adams. “We are declaring intersections are sacred spaces and should be protected.”

Even before the pandemic, city officials had introduced measures to try to make streets safer, including lowering speed limits on high-crash thoroughfares, expanding automated speed cameras in school zones, re-timing walk signals to give pedestrians a head start and installing miles of protected bike lanes.

Still, New York, like other U.S. cities, has seen a jump in traffic deaths during the pandemic caused by speeding and dangerous driving brought on by lax police enforcement, emptier roads, more alcohol abuse and greater anxiety, according to traffic experts.

Many cities have increasingly turned to re-engineering crash-prone intersections, according to Alex Engel, a spokesman for the National Association of City Transportation Officials.

“The intersections are the hardest part of the street to design — they are where the most conflicts are,” said Mr. Engel, whose organization is helping cities apply for federal infrastructure funds to help pay for street redesigns.

Over the past five years in New York, more than half of all pedestrian and cyclist fatalities, and more than three-quarters of pedestrian and cyclist injuries, have taken place at intersections, according to city officials.

Caroline Shadood, 34, and her neighbors in Glendale, Queens, have repeatedly demanded safety improvements at the nearby intersection of Cypress and Cooper Avenues where they say drivers routinely speed and run red lights. There have been 70 people — including 10 pedestrians and seven cyclists — injured in motor vehicle crashes at that intersection in the past five years, city records show.

“It’s a known danger in the neighborhood,” Ms. Shadood said of the intersection.

A driver slammed into Ms. Shadood’s partner, Jon Burton, 35, and their dog, Tai, at the intersection a year ago, Ms. Shadood said. Both survived but Mr. Burton was left with a fractured hip and knees and could not work for months. (The dog had internal injuries to multiple organs.)

More recently, another pedestrian was knocked over at that intersection by one driver, and while lying on the ground, was run over by a second driver.

To better control traffic at the intersection, the city recently installed a so-called Barnes Dance, in which traffic signals are reprogrammed to temporarily stop all traffic, allowing pedestrians to cross safely in every direction at the same time.

The intersection, Mr. Rodriguez said, “has seen far too many crashes.”

City officials are working to redesign 1,000 dangerous intersections this year and also plan to target problem spots like parking lots and gas stations where drivers cut across sidewalks, in addition to raising scores of crosswalks.

Such “traffic calming measures” are crucial to slowing down drivers and preventing serious crashes, especially on busy streets where there is a mix of people driving, walking and biking, said Leah Shahum, the executive director of the Vision Zero Network, a nonprofit campaign that works with more than 45 cities across the country to make streets safer.

“They’re proven countermeasures,” she said. “What’s new is the political will to make these changes.”

Mr. de Blasio, who was often viewed by transportation advocates as being overly car-friendly, was accused of not moving aggressively enough to make streets safer. Advocates have generally been more positive about Mr. Adams, an avid cyclist, and Mr. Rodriguez, a former city councilman who was a frequent ally of transit advocates, though it is still early in the new administration.

“The focus of Vision Zero should be designing streets to prevent traffic violence before it even happens,” said Danny Harris, the executive director of Transportation Alternatives, an advocacy group.

Research studies have shown that raised crosswalks can increase the visibility of pedestrians and reduce traffic speeds and crashes, according to traffic engineers and experts. In New York, pedestrian injuries have typically declined after a raised crosswalk was installed, officials said.

Raised crosswalks are also popular because they can be relatively quick to install and inexpensive.

New York’s first raised crosswalk was placed in the Bronx in 2016, after a former city transportation official, Quemuel Arroyo, 32, spotted them while traveling in Mexico and Colombia.

Raised crosswalks, Mr. Arroyo said, are especially important for vulnerable street users — including people with disabilities and young children, who are sometimes not visible to drivers.

Mr. Arroyo, who uses a wheelchair and is now the chief accessibility officer for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, said raised crosswalks “give me a heightened level of comfort knowing that motorists can see me.”

The new crosswalks, which will be financed with city and federal funding, will not be placed on major roads to avoid disrupting bus and truck routes, city officials said. Instead, they will be aimed at other intersections heavily used by pedestrians, especially children and older people, with many near schools, parks, playgrounds and senior centers.

Four new raised crosswalks have already been confirmed for Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx and Staten Island.

In northern Manhattan, the raised crosswalk at 181st Street and Fort Washington Avenue was packed on a recent morning with subway commuters heading to a station, early risers clutching coffee cups and walking dogs and mothers and fathers pushing strollers.

A yellow sign alerts drivers to the raised crosswalk and warns them to slow down to 15 miles per hour on a street where the speed limit is 25 m.p.h.

Craig Clark, 38, who lives in Washington Heights and drives to an English-language teaching job in Queens, said that “it’s worth slowing down a little — that’s reasonable” but added that he would be concerned if raised crosswalks across the city significantly slowed traffic and made his commute, which already takes up to an hour, even longer.

But others like Glen Graham, 48, a podcast producer, said that even when he had a walk signal, many drivers still tried to cut him off. A raised crosswalk “would definitely help — there’s no way to speed over those bumps,” he said. “They have to slow down.”

Ms. Boysen, who said she has had close calls with cars while crossing the intersection, said the city needed many more raised crosswalks.

“I would love them everywhere,” she said. “We should be focusing more on keeping pedestrians safe.”

actionjackson posted:

you have to pay bitcoin to use the crosswalk

edit:

"Craig Clark, 38, who lives in Washington Heights and drives to an English-language teaching job in Queens, said that “it’s worth slowing down a little — that’s reasonable” but added that he would be concerned if raised crosswalks across the city significantly slowed traffic and made his commute, which already takes up to an hour, even longer."

why is he driving - it is a bit of a haul by transit too, so my next question is why doesn't he just find something closer

SKULL.GIF posted:

2 hour daily commute.

Why even live in NYC at that point? What a miserable existence.

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

Eric Adams ..... Good??
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/02/nyregion/nyc-raised-crosswalks-traffic-deaths.html

SKULL.GIF posted:

2 hour daily commute.

Why even live in NYC at that point? What a miserable existence.

SKULL.GIF posted:

2 hour daily commute.

Why even live in NYC at that point? What a miserable existence.

actionjackson posted:

why is he driving - it is a bit of a haul by transit too, so my next question is why doesn't he just find something closer

bi crimes posted:

idk anywhere else in the US where executive boomers and management consultant types making 200k+ a year commute for 3 hours a day

Ham Equity posted:

I'm not sure what's more surprising: Eric Adams advocating for something good, or the New York Times using the phrase "traffic violence."

Polo-Rican posted:

car brain is a real thing.

Fitzy Fitz posted:

there's an arms race between raised crosswalks / speedbumps and lifted trucks

WampaLord posted:

Los Angeles because at least NYC has a transit system that is used by a lot of people

no one in LA rides the Metro, it is car culture to the extreme

Polo-Rican posted:

car brain is a real thing. driving from washington heights to queens is like 10x more stressful and expensive than taking the subway, and probably wouldn't even save time during work hours. there's nothing about driving that makes it more enjoyable. in the subway you just chill out, stand around, listen to music, play a game on your phone, etc. you can literally use the subway as a chance to unwind. once you have terminal car brain, you forget that completely

Polo-Rican posted:

cars create the illusion of control, which people get addicted to. if you commute via the subway, delays can drive you crazy; partially because you have no control over them whatsoever. you personally do not cause the delays, you don't know how long the delays will last, etc. if you have a handful of bad subway experiences in a short time span, it's easy to get disillusioned with public transit in general.

you don't have any more control in a car... there's nothing you can do to prevent running into a surprise traffic jam, or not finding a parking space at your destination, etc... but that illusion of control is enough to hook you unless you're willing to have a zen mindset about transportation in general

Salvor_Hardin posted:

I have the opposite reaction. If a bus or train is slow/delayed its all vv welp, nothing to be done about it. If I'm in a car and jammed up I go nuts trying to figure out which is the fastest lane or if there are any alternate routes.

Fitzy Fitz posted:

My neighbors (four college frat guys) each have their own giant trucks that they don't have room for. One of them is idling in his truck when I leave in the morning and idling in his truck when I get home. What are you doing??

withak posted:

Do we have the technology to have a distance sensor pointing downwards from the front bumper that can allow on-the-fly suspension adjustments to float you over speed pumps without slowing down?

Polo-Rican posted:

cars create the illusion of control, which people get addicted to. if you commute via the subway, delays can drive you crazy; partially because you have no control over them whatsoever. you personally do not cause the delays, you don't know how long the delays will last, etc. if you have a handful of bad subway experiences in a short time span, it's easy to get disillusioned with public transit in general.

you don't have any more control in a car... there's nothing you can do to prevent running into a surprise traffic jam, or not finding a parking space at your destination, etc... but that illusion of control is enough to hook you unless you're willing to have a zen mindset about transportation in general

Polo-Rican posted:

cars create the illusion of control, which people get addicted to. if you commute via the subway, delays can drive you crazy; partially because you have no control over them whatsoever. you personally do not cause the delays, you don't know how long the delays will last, etc. if you have a handful of bad subway experiences in a short time span, it's easy to get disillusioned with public transit in general.

you don't have any more control in a car... there's nothing you can do to prevent running into a surprise traffic jam, or not finding a parking space at your destination, etc... but that illusion of control is enough to hook you unless you're willing to have a zen mindset about transportation in general

Jestery posted:

I think so have the same thing but for my bike riding even though I know it's 5-10 minutes longer to ride my bike.

withak posted:

Do we have the technology to have a distance sensor pointing downwards from the front bumper that can allow on-the-fly suspension adjustments to float you over speed pumps without slowing down?

an actual frog posted:

The great thing about bike commuting, or walking if you're lucky enough, is the fixed-time aspect. Unless the area's choked with snow or ice nothing's stopping you, your commute will always take about the same time.

It's very freeing.