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Look guys I'd love to hang around and help fight, defend the jumpers for goalposts and whatnot. But I've checked and you haven't got any mechwarriors which would be my preference so yeah soz, I'm out.
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OwlFancier posted:If you are seeking therapy then by necessity (as you correctly identified) you have to have a sufficient element of doubt in yourself that you think you need to be fixed, or possibly you have been pushed there by other people around you. But again is you correctly identify, in order for it to take, you must lack sufficient confidence in your self assessment to be open to having the interpretation of your therapist inserted in there instead of your own. Or to find their reasoning more compelling than your own, however you want to look at it. It's funny how I find your arguments so equally logical and compelling when I myself am particularly depressed and irrational and misguided when I'm not
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:I don't think your mood - or anyone's - is nearly as dependent on externalities as you believe. Individual brain chemistry can, in some cases, be a contributing factor to one extent or another, but I'm very much of the R.D. Laing school of thought that for the vast majority of us the sadbrains, anxiety, and all manner of other unpleasant psychological poo poo are less things we should be understood as disease and more the entirely reasonable responses of quite healthy and well-adjusted people to utterly absurd and frequently soul crushing reality.
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*shrug* personally I can be quite happy and still think all that. But that's usually just because I am in an environment that elicits joy, which would be entirely consistent. I just wish those environments were more frequent. But that's an environmental problem. Summer is coming and hopefully I will be able to spend a little more time in the hills in nice, calm, spring weather, and I look forward to that.
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It's stuff like this:OwlFancier posted:I don't really know that I would be protecting them from anything, the government is already killing them by inches, and thanks to their hostility I have few of them left, I'm afraid it's going to take more than "we will kill you slower" to offset the joy of watching it all go up in flames. I think you know better than most that people are fundamentally not rational beings, yet you seem to cling religiously to the belief that your negative feelings are rational. It's a contradiction. I don't expect you to believe me, I just hope that if people keep telling you this it might help eventually.
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What would be the difference if I felt otherwise, out of curiosity? I think life can or can not be worth living depending on the person, and I think that a lot of people also think that in some form or another, plenty of people choose to die for perfectly reasonable reasons that I would think ITT would at least be uncontroversial, I think the thread generally skews in favour of the right to die for terminally ill people for example. Some people choose to undertake great risk out of a belief that is is better than securing their own lives (though admittedly how much of that involves thinking straight I would probably contest) and a lot of people would see that as commendable even if not necessarily reasonable. What is the difference between coming to a life-negative conclusion that makes it inherently wrong, and a life-positive one that makes it possible to be rationally supported? Because that's the sticking point I have trouble with. I really don't think it is axiomatic, it is something that I really wonder about quite a lot, and I also respect that other people make that decision for themselves and I can accept that their conclusions might be true for them, whatever they may be. By far the most reasonable position to me is that there is no one size fits all answer and that it probably is basically only something people can determine for themselves, and that's the position I hold. It causes problems if you asked me to make that decision for other people because my and their view might well be in conflict, but I don't really know what the best answer is, which is why as I said I just assume life-positive for other people because it seems most practical. I don't have enough information to make that decision properly for other people and critically, I don't think anyone else does either. I think in the specific case of an invasion of the UK, my reluctance to fight would be more motivated by the visceral disgust at being hailed for defending the UK if it won. Which I grant you may be irrational too but I really don't know how I would live with myself if I survived a war and the UK government did its usual bullshit while singing my praises about how it's because of people like me that they can do it. I am skeptical of my ability to resist the sense of revulsion that would create. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Guavanaut posted:Chechen 'gay purge' general Manbab Neckbeard has been confirmed killed so that's one silver lining on all this poo poo. Fantastic that Putin's denazification plan is coming together.
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OwlFancier posted:What would be the difference if I felt otherwise, out of curiosity? E: I just baked a camembert & had it with some French bread & chutney & a nice glass of red, doing so is another extremely good way to make yourself feel better that I recommend highly
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If I felt better, I would think otherwise... Perhaps we just fundamentally disagree on whether our feelings are environmentally determined or not, or at least to the degree which they are.
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Hmm yes BBC, very cool move to have a photo of a Soyuz rocket on the launchpad under the 'war in Ukraine' heading. Definitely a very sensible thing to do at this particular juncture.
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lmao, naturally. christ this poo poo's depressing jiggerypokery posted:https://twitter.com/RPPSanford/status/1498974532396367873 "that's life" jesus gently caress off
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jeremy vine is a complete bimbo, he ruins radio 2 every day  like you should hear some of the poo poo he comes out with
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He does seem to think his job is be the thickest participant in any conversation. Which frankly is a threat to my USP
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ThomasPaine posted:Hmm yes BBC, very cool move to have a photo of a Soyuz rocket on the launchpad under the 'war in Ukraine' heading. Definitely a very sensible thing to do at this particular juncture. lmao they already changed the photo to be a much more obvious spacecraft not ICBM, someone got yelled at
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Like, he might be a twat but 1, he's not russia, and 2 war crimes is a bit strong (from the telegraph)
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jiggerypokery posted:Like, he might be a twat but 1, he's not russia, and 2 war crimes is a bit strong lmao that's great, though
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The war crimes of Sir Kyiv Stormer
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Barry Foster posted:I saw the way they talked to you in there, and I was sorry to see it, mate. Bunch of loving bug-eyed jut-jaw yank liberal fucks Thanks bud. Keep safe! That goes for you as well owl fancier.
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Josef bugman posted:Thanks bud. Keep safe! That goes for you as well owl fancier. And you, Josef.
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LOL if true. https://twitter.com/Pady_oFurniture/status/1498547712580816896
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It is not enough for us to imagine Sisyphus happy, we must make him agree with us. I giggled. OwlFancier, correct on all counts. But... you're viewing the rear side of the tapestry. You'll need knowledge of the is-ought problem, but more importantly you need to question rationality and your motivations to be rational in the first place. You're getting a little caught up in what you can't change without paying attention to it defining the inverse.
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https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/1499058703009558533 Interesting. I only know of one direct backer and they're I think resident in the UK, no obvious names stand out so unless it's someone funding legatum who in turn fund GB news I've no idea. E: The person is named in a followup tweet. Sorry for the heil link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5695573/Legatum-founder-suspected-spy.html
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The Wicked ZOGA posted:Why does international espionage mostly involve boring old twats Because boring old twats are who control most places.
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Possibly the first time betteridges law of headlines has been wrong, tbh. https://www.euronews.com/2022/03/01/does-the-ukraine-exodus-reveal-a-shocking-distinction-on-refugees-in-some-parts-of-the-eu
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OwlFancier posted:Possibly the first time betteridges law of headlines has been wrong, tbh. "Shocking" "some parts" yeah OK lol. Poland & Hungary are probably the loudest parts but it's not like Denmark doesn't have more than its share of swivel-eyed loons yelling about the invasion of muslamics with their rayguns or whatever the Danish equivalent is, the FN regularly poll as the 2nd or 3rd largest party in France, Austria's 3rd party the FPO are very much the equals of Fidesz & PiS(s) (incidentally, this is a good sentence from the FPO Wikipedia, "Its first leader, Anton Reinthaller, was a former Nazi functionary and SS officer, though the party did not advocate extreme right policies and presented itself as residing in the political centre." Liberalism.txt), & so on, so forth. Anyone shocked that the EU is racist hasn't had racist policies towards refugees for at least as long as I've been paying attention to politics has had their head in the sand for 25 years & is probably dead from oxygen deprivation. The Wicked ZOGA posted:I don't think your mood - or anyone's - is nearly as dependent on externalities as you believe. If you don't think the epidemic of mental health problems, including mood issues, isn't massively impacted on the "externalities" of late capitalism then I've got a boat to sell you, only used once, you'll just need to go pick it up from the floor of the Atlantic & maybe patch a couple of minor dents & holes. Josef bugman posted:I just got my av changed by, I think, the war thread in D&D, so I am a touch sad at that. Sucks. Unfortunately this is just a reminder that basically no part of D&D outside of UKMT is worth engaging with because it's full of prats.
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As a malcontent, it's always been a great comfort that I can kill myself at any time, but if Britain was invaded it would genuinely be an emotional roller coaster. I thrive in a crisis and love a bit of chaos. Or maybe running at an enemy tank wearing a saucepan on my head and waving a pointy stick is just an elaborate suicide plan with crap cosplay. If conscription is re-introduced, we can form the Something Awful Kamikaze Company.
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mediaphage posted:honestly it's true for d&d and cspam both. outside of a handful of threads, one is terminally lib-brained or decorum-poisoned, and the other is completely flat-out insane Most threads around USPOL are garbage, & I generally disagree with a lot of the Leninists in CSPAM, but there are far more threads worth reading there than in D&D. Especially the Doomsday Economics/NUMBER thread, Failing NYT, the Radio War Nerd thread, Elon Musk thread can all be quite amusing, & the UK thread is nice because you can poo poo post & tell libs to gently caress off without dumb Yank mods getting all pissy that you were rude to some twat getting horny about war but it does sort of feel like it's basically UKMT without some posters & with others. The stuff like the Trump thread is deffo deranged but a lot of the bad posters seem largely quarantined to it so it is easy to avoid.
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forkboy84 posted:the UK thread is nice because you can poo poo post & tell libs to gently caress off without dumb Yank mods getting all pissy that you were rude to some twat getting horny about war but it does sort of feel like it's basically UKMT without some posters & with others. It is the UK Mock Thread though? 
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Lady Demelza posted:As a malcontent, it's always been a great comfort that I can kill myself at any time, but if Britain was invaded it would genuinely be an emotional roller coaster. I thrive in a crisis and love a bit of chaos. Or maybe running at an enemy tank wearing a saucepan on my head and waving a pointy stick is just an elaborate suicide plan with crap cosplay. Improvised head protection from the Egyptian revolution: 
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mediaphage posted:honestly it's true for d&d and cspam both. outside of a handful of threads, one is terminally lib-brained or decorum-poisoned, and the other is completely flat-out insane To be fair, flat-out insanity is a sane and appropriate response to the world as it stands
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