Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
BrownPepper
Dec 30, 2017

Busket Posket posted:


ri
At least Theater Parents and Dance Moms had to go out in public with their kids to destroy their healthy development and get the success they themselves hadn’t found. Now, parents can just let their kid do all the work, maybe make a cameo in a video or two, and when anyone suggests maybe they should be parents instead of talent agents they still say things like “We chose what’s best for our family. We know there are going to be two sides, and some people won’t understand.’’

A Child’s TikTok Stardom Opened Doors. Then A Gunman Arrived.

LOL at the idea an ex-cop would be less likely to abuse their kid.

This poo poo is the future of social media- increasing pressure to monetize every post or snapchat or whatever. And you can't blame the kids even if they are annoying- what else are they supposed to do. Being a media person is one of the only desirable jobs left in America- or at least its presented that way. I'm sure the reality of being a social media star is brutal in its own way.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
Jesus Christ

MightyJoe36
Dec 29, 2013

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
The modern-day version of JonBenet Ramsey or Honey Boo Boo.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
Reminds me of lil Tay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrtmEuvYXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-l_3ygbogE

Special guest appearance by TEKASHI 69!

Wasabi the J has a new favorite as of 01:54 on Feb 26, 2022

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

MightyJoe36 posted:

The modern-day version of JonBenet Ramsey or Honey Boo Boo.

Reminded that Honey Boo Boo's mom lost her show because she married a convicted pedophile who had raped HBB's sister when she was HBB's then-current age.

One More Fat Nerd
Apr 13, 2007

Mama’s Lil’ Louie

Nap Ghost

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Reminded that Honey Boo Boo's mom lost her show because she married a convicted pedophile who had raped HBB's sister when she was HBB's then-current age.

I knew he was a pedo, but did not know the second part. Jesus Christ!

Griz
May 21, 2001


she also revealed that the father of one of her children was another pedophile previously featured to To Catch a Predator.

three years later she was rewarded for being a total scumbag with yet another TV show which is still ongoing despite her being arrested for felony drug possession in 2019.

Le Faye Morgaine
Feb 1, 2022

Griz posted:

she also revealed that the father of one of her children was another pedophile previously featured to To Catch a Predator.

three years later she was rewarded for being a total scumbag with yet another TV show which is still ongoing despite her being arrested for felony drug possession in 2019.

Speaking of unnerving, when they gave her that show to make her hot, they did extensive surgeries all over her body. I remember her saying the worst/most painful was extra skin removal from her upper arms. For some reason, it gives me the willies when I imagine the recovery period where it hurts so much to barely lift your arms. Almost claustrophobic feeling.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
That skin-reduction surgery loving sucks bad, from what I’m told. One of my father’s oldest friends was pretty fat all through high school, which I’d imagine was especially miserable in 1962. After moving out on his own, he lost a whole bunch of weight and his uncle, being a plastic surgeon, did skin reduction surgery as a gift. I think it was just around his middle but I’m not 100% sure.

The guy, Steve, had cancer a few years ago and had to go through operations, chemo and radiation. I was talking to him about it and he said something along the lines of ‘yeah, cancer’s a bitch, but it’s nothing compared to how miserable that skin surgery was’. Considering it was 45 years earlier and he still remembered exactly how painful the recovery was, I assume it’s truly horrible during the healing process.

Le Faye Morgaine
Feb 1, 2022
Plastic surgery addicts with a lot of tattoos make me curious if the doctors purposely try to realign the linework when sewing them back up. If anyone has experienced something like that, did they try to do you right?

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Minor surgery, but I had a biopsy taken from the middle of a tattoo and my dermatologist was very careful to try and line up the work on ether side.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

JnnyThndrs posted:

That skin-reduction surgery loving sucks bad, from what I’m told. One of my father’s oldest friends was pretty fat all through high school, which I’d imagine was especially miserable in 1962. After moving out on his own, he lost a whole bunch of weight and his uncle, being a plastic surgeon, did skin reduction surgery as a gift. I think it was just around his middle but I’m not 100% sure.

The guy, Steve, had cancer a few years ago and had to go through operations, chemo and radiation. I was talking to him about it and he said something along the lines of ‘yeah, cancer’s a bitch, but it’s nothing compared to how miserable that skin surgery was’. Considering it was 45 years earlier and he still remembered exactly how painful the recovery was, I assume it’s truly horrible during the healing process.

Maybe temper that smugness. Living with too much excess skin is also a goddamn nightmare. I lost about 140 pounds from my 17 year old weight of 380 pounds. Removing about 20 pounds of excess skin was a hell of an ordeal but was way better than dealing with the constant sores and chafing from the excess skin.

My plastic surgeon drastically improved my life. If you have a sliver of empathy for people making mistakes as kids or being force fed by their parents or someone like me whose piece of poo poo piediatrician hid my low thyroid count and put me on a majority tunafish diet, don't knock skin removal surgery.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I personally didn't read any smugness or judgment into that post, just saying

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


i don't think it's smugness either, i think it's as fair to warn about difficult surgery experiences as positives

Jnny didn't say it was a surgery you shouldn't get just that the recovery can be a bitch. it's good to hear that yours went well Leviathan. sorry about that piece of poo poo paediatrician

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

I'll also say there's no mention of the person having regretted that surgery, just how hellish the recovery period was to the point for them it was worse then chemo, which is notoriously hellish but hopefully also leads to a massive improvement in quality of life (and length of life).

People just don't generally think about how many sensory nerves are near skin and what that's going to mean for a surgery of that type. Many plastic surgeons do excellent work and are concerned with the quality of life and care their patients receive, but for some procedures all you can do is try to minimize how bad the recovery is going to be, you can't make it not bad. If someone is struggling with excess skin after major weight loss I'd still advise them to look into a skin reduction surgery, and nobody deserves the health issues that come from having a lot of excess skin.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Mx. posted:

i don't think it's smugness either, i think it's as fair to warn about difficult surgery experiences as positives

Jnny didn't say it was a surgery you shouldn't get just that the recovery can be a bitch. it's good to hear that yours went well Leviathan. sorry about that piece of poo poo paediatrician

Confused about who you were talking to there for a moment.


Griz posted:

she also revealed that the father of one of her children was another pedophile previously featured to To Catch a Predator.

three years later she was rewarded for being a total scumbag with yet another TV show which is still ongoing despite her being arrested for felony drug possession in 2019.

Because networks cannot get enough of these trash people. There's a point where I don't think it's even just pointing and laughing, there's clear identification and even idolising of people who put the bare minimum into everything. Really comes off like she uses her kids to attract pedophile partners. Stage parents boiled down to their base form, really.

Le Faye Morgaine
Feb 1, 2022

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Stage parents boiled down to their base form, really.

Stage parents are unnerving in themselves. Its so easy to make content and get views/likes these days, I bet a good amount of people rely on their kids for content creation. Mommy bloggers come to mind, and also Lil Tay up thread (only it was a stage brother, not parent). Also the attention factor and living vicariously through their kids, and the poor kids get to be humiliated forever cause the internet never forgets. Kinda like those parents who use their kids SS number for loans and have to jump through so many hoops to get their names cleared.

"But they're MY kids! I'll parade them around Air BnBs and they'll do interviews if i want, its MY decision as a parent!"

Very horrifying the disconnect of compassion they show their poor kids.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
I think that plastic surgery recovery now is likely more comfortable than plastic surgery recovery was decades ago. :shrug:

Greg of Doom
Dec 22, 2021

by sebmojo

Leviathan Song posted:

Maybe temper that smugness. Living with too much excess skin is also a goddamn nightmare. I lost about 140 pounds from my 17 year old weight of 380 pounds. Removing about 20 pounds of excess skin was a hell of an ordeal but was way better than dealing with the constant sores and chafing from the excess skin.

My plastic surgeon drastically improved my life. If you have a sliver of empathy for people making mistakes as kids or being force fed by their parents or someone like me whose piece of poo poo piediatrician hid my low thyroid count and put me on a majority tunafish diet, don't knock skin removal surgery.

Uh maybe cut it with the racism , rear end in a top hat.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Greg of Doom posted:

Uh maybe cut it with the racism , rear end in a top hat.

What the gently caress are you talking about?

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all
Yeah it's Gorg of Doorg do not engage.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Leviathan Song posted:

Maybe temper that smugness. Living with too much excess skin is also a goddamn nightmare. I lost about 140 pounds from my 17 year old weight of 380 pounds. Removing about 20 pounds of excess skin was a hell of an ordeal but was way better than dealing with the constant sores and chafing from the excess skin.

My plastic surgeon drastically improved my life. If you have a sliver of empathy for people making mistakes as kids or being force fed by their parents or someone like me whose piece of poo poo piediatrician hid my low thyroid count and put me on a majority tunafish diet, don't knock skin removal surgery.

Sorry dude, I in no way meant to be smug in the slightest. I’ve lost over 100 lbs several times in my life, so trust me, I’m quite familiar with loose skin, that’s why I investigated the surgery in the first place.

Again, I don’t know how I triggered the hostility, but I’m sorry.

Edit: Petracore, I got the impression that the guy would do it again in a heartbeat, he was just saying that it’s not a fun time while you’re healing.

JnnyThndrs has a new favorite as of 13:53 on Feb 28, 2022

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof

Greg of Doom posted:

Uh maybe cut it with the racism , rear end in a top hat.

Uh maybe cut it with the imbecility , rear end in a top hat.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

"don't engage with Greg of Doom" should be on the list right after "don't engage with Jerry Cotton"

empty sea
Jul 17, 2011

gonna saddle my seahorse and float out to the sunset
I tried to use search, so apologies if someone else posted this but they probably found Brandon Lawson.

https://charleyproject.org/case/brandon-mason-lawson

Looks like his remains were found not too far from his vehicle. I guess the "relapsed, ran off into dark and the elements/hogs got him" theory is the most likely.

Between this, Bill Ewasko and the men being arrested in connection to Andrew Gosden's case, I'm pretty hopeful we'll see more solved cases soon.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
San Angelo isn't far from where I was born. It's really strange driving around the west TX/east NM area. It's not the wilderness like the famous bus guy's area of Alaska. There are tons of decent-sized cities right nearby, at least if you have fuel in your car. But there's huge swathes of llano with nothing, not many people driving on them, and in some places not even cell phone signal. From my hometown to direct to Denver or Albuquerque or Santa Fe there's swathes of highway where you will have no phone, and no passing cars, until you can see the foothills of the Rockies in the distance. It's beautiful but being stuck out there sounds goddam terrifying.

DRINK ME
Jul 31, 2006
i cant fix avs like this because idk the bbcode - HTML IS BS MAN

I know there are large parts of the world that pass me by, large parts that I’m completely ignorant to, but I have never heard of lil tay before and I’m usually pretty good with the broad strokes internet drama / sensations.

Both of these stories are fascinating and horrifying. The Ava story is just hosed in so many ways, that dad had to gun down a guy who came blasting in their front door and then goes to talk to entertainment lawyers about the next step in her career… I just don’t know. I would be thinking new city, new phone numbers, work on a plan for the social media to keep things safe in future. Don’t sell headshots to the stalker who’s already buying photos and info from classmates!

*deep breaths*

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

JnnyThndrs posted:

Sorry dude, I in no way meant to be smug in the slightest. I’ve lost over 100 lbs several times in my life, so trust me, I’m quite familiar with loose skin, that’s why I investigated the surgery in the first place.

Again, I don’t know how I triggered the hostility, but I’m sorry.

Edit: Petracore, I got the impression that the guy would do it again in a heartbeat, he was just saying that it’s not a fun time while you’re healing.


I might have overreacted, sorry. I've had way too many people tell me that I should just use a skin cream to fix it as if that wasn't a complete scam.

The cosmetic surgeon that did my surgery had a portfolio of successful surgeries and some of the stories that went along with the photos definitely belong in this thread; both battered women and burn victims. I appreciate the work he does I see too many people acting like it's all vanity surgery.

PetraCore
Jul 20, 2017

👁️🔥👁️👁️👁️BE NOT👄AFRAID👁️👁️👁️🔥👁️

Leviathan Song posted:

I might have overreacted, sorry. I've had way too many people tell me that I should just use a skin cream to fix it as if that wasn't a complete scam.

The cosmetic surgeon that did my surgery had a portfolio of successful surgeries and some of the stories that went along with the photos definitely belong in this thread; both battered women and burn victims. I appreciate the work he does I see too many people acting like it's all vanity surgery.
Cosmetic surgery is super important. It's too easy for people to judge when they don't need physical reconstruction themselves.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames
i was under the impression that extra skin would eventually go away on its own, does that not happen? i mean obviously you shouldn't have to suffer even if it does

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

You think it was just gonna evaporate or something?

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I am not a person who will probably ever need skin removal surgery. However, I also live a life of extremely painful and annoying genetic disorders. I am decades deep in specialists and education etc. Skin removal surgery is AWFUL. There are soooooooooooo many nerves and blood vessels etc. You can't just slice it off and stitch it together. Anyone who does it has my love and respect, for it is apparently an awful awful loving awful surgery.

It is painful, it is expensive, it is risky, it is intricate. They can't just slice off some skin and sew the rest together but apparently sometimes do?

And the medical system treats People of Size super lovely so lolol

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

moonmazed posted:

i was under the impression that extra skin would eventually go away on its own, does that not happen? i mean obviously you shouldn't have to suffer even if it does

I had extra skin from a removed testicle due to cancer and yes, it did go away, but on a timescale of multiple years and that wasn't even that much (and in a location nobody else was gonna see). I can absolutely see somebody wanting it gone faster if it's their gut or arms or some other prominent location.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

moonmazed posted:

i was under the impression that extra skin would eventually go away on its own, does that not happen? i mean obviously you shouldn't have to suffer even if it does

If you lose 20 or 30 pounds it will naturally contract back into place.
When you start getting above 50 pounds there is pretty much guaranteed to be some excess skin that will never go away. When you are talking 150-200 pounds of weight loss you end up with folds of extra skin that are a genuine health issue. They can get in the way of clothing and exercise and get nasty infections.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

moonmazed posted:

i was under the impression that extra skin would eventually go away on its own, does that not happen? i mean obviously you shouldn't have to suffer even if it does

Skin is elastic but only to a point, and it loses some of that as you get older too. Gaining muscle mass can also help I think, but at a certain point your body has limits

Busket Posket
Feb 5, 2010

✨ⓡⓐⓨⓜⓞⓝⓓ✨

moonmazed posted:

i was under the impression that extra skin would eventually go away on its own, does that not happen? i mean obviously you shouldn't have to suffer even if it does

Skin has finite elasticity, and depending on the length of time the skin was at a certain tautness and the surface area involved, sometimes skin has lost the level of rebound that would be needed to fit snugly around the body. And when someone has, for example, lost 125 lbs and has been excited to wear bikinis and crop tops again, the stigma of fatness is just replaced with a different cause to feel compelled to hide.

Ideally, this person should have been allowed by society in general to be just as comfortable wearing lingerie before and after weight loss, but the feeling of “they used to stare and call me gross before, and now… they still do” can contribute to dysmorphia and depression.

I Miss Snausages
Mar 8, 2005
Volvorific!

Busket Posket posted:

Skin has finite elasticity, and depending on the length of time the skin was at a certain tautness and the surface area involved, sometimes skin has lost the level of rebound that would be needed to fit snugly around the body. And when someone has, for example, lost 125 lbs and has been excited to wear bikinis and crop tops again, the stigma of fatness is just replaced with a different cause to feel compelled to hide.

Ideally, this person should have been allowed by society in general to be just as comfortable wearing lingerie before and after weight loss, but the feeling of “they used to stare and call me gross before, and now… they still do” can contribute to dysmorphia and depression.



One of the other things that was touched on above is that taking care of extra skin like this is difficult. People make fun of fat people and their "folds" getting fungus and other infections, but the same will happen with excess skin from weight loss. It is a burden to properly take care of it, and often it gets caught on things, causes clothing not to fit, and the mental aspect of it hanging around, haunting you after successful weight loss really factors into getting the surgery, or making people gain weight back to deal with it. Nature is quite cruel when it comes to our bodies and sudden changes.

moonmazed
Dec 27, 2021

by VideoGames
thank you skin goons i am enlightened

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


Like a lot of things with the human body, your skin is more elastic and able to shrink back after weight loss when you're younger, and even then there's a lot of variation.


For some unnerving content, Humans of New York is slowly sharing a story today that's giving me a growing feeling of impending doom with each part. CW for domestic abuse, self harm, and child sexual abuse. I'm spoiler tagging the whole thing (up to part 9/13 now) so anyone who might find it triggering or upsetting can just scroll past. It gets worse with every part.

UPDATE: the whole story has been shared and posted both on the website and their social media accounts. There's a happy ending to the story after the abject horror.

Click through for photos accompanying each part of the story, and Facebook link since they're a couple of parts ahead of the website
https://www.humansofnewyork.com/
https://www.facebook.com/humansofnewyork/

quote:

(1/13) “We went on a cruise for our ten-year anniversary. There was this dance competition. They came out on the floor and tapped four couples, and they tapped us. Tripp was towering above everyone. He’s 6’3”, 6’4”, dancing in the middle of the crowd. He’s so stinking cute. Acting so stupid, getting the energy of everyone around him. And I’m just loving him. That’s why it’s still so hard. You’d think I hate him, but I can’t. Because I loved him. Everyone did. I can’t tell you how many people pulled me aside, and said: ‘You are married to the greatest man.’ We were PTA presidents together, and everyone liked Tripp more than me. Because I’d say what I thought. But no matter how ridiculous the person was being, Tripp would make them feel heard. Like he was going to personally address their problem. He taught our Bible study. He hosted all the school fundraisers. He coached all our son’s football teams. Tripp used to play for the University of South Carolina, or so we all thought. He’d bring our entire family to every home game. He’d sweet talk his way past the security guards and get us in the locker room. He’d show us his old locker. He’d tell us stories, about how the coach used to tell the team: ‘If everyone played with half the heart as Tripp, we’d have won Nationals.’ All the team photos were hanging on the wall. And Tripp wasn’t in any of them, which we thought was strange. But he told us that he’d been sick that day. One time we were on the way to a game, sitting in bad traffic, and the team bus drove by. Tripp pulled right behind it. A motorcycle cop pulled up to the side of the car, flashing his lights, telling us to pull over. Tripp looked the cop right in the eye, and said: ‘We’re with the team.’ And he believed it. That’s how Tripp was. You’d believe anything he said. Within five minutes of meeting you, he’d put his arm around you, and tell you that he loved you. And you’d believe it. After Tripp went to prison, he wrote me a letter. ‘It’s better than I thought,’ he said. ‘It’s actually less stress than being on the outside.’ I think he was just relieved that he didn’t have to lie anymore. Part of him was happy that it all came crashing down.”

quote:

(2/13) “My first memory is watching my mother’s fingernails. My stepfather would make me sit beside the couch, and watch her fingernails. If they turned blue I was supposed to call 911. She’d be in bed when I left for school. In bed when I came home. There was nobody to make me breakfast. Nobody to brush my hair. I remember my older sister got in a fight on the school bus, because other kids were making fun of my hair. Last time I saw her she was in a mental institution. My brother ended up in maximum security prison. All of us handled our trauma differently. I hid it from everyone. I never invited anyone over. I didn’t want anyone seeing the gazillion roaches. I didn’t want anyone seeing the pill bottles all over the floor. It was chaos in our house. My mother was always angry about something. One time she lied to the insurance company and told them that somebody stole Christmas. That one I’ll never forget, because my aunt called my school. She said: ‘Your mom is in jail, and she just tried to kill herself by sticking her head in the toilet.’ I did life all by myself. On Sunday I’d go to church alone, and study the good families. I tried my best to act like a lady. I didn’t drink, or cuss. I remember junior year I got invited to prom, and that was a huge deal for me. I’d changed high schools six times. I couldn’t believe someone had asked me. I gave a girl $50 to use her dress. I spent the whole afternoon getting my hair done. I was in the bathroom finishing my make-up, and the door swung open. In came my mother. She said: ‘You’ll never be as pretty as me.’ She put her fingers in my hair and messed it all up. Right at that moment the doorbell rang. I could have let her win. I could have gone in my bedroom and cried. But I spent fifteen seconds fixing my hair, and I walked out the door. I wasn’t going to let her take that night from me. I wasn’t going to let her ruin my life. I did everything by myself. Nobody paid me any attention. I graduated high school. I got accepted into the University of South Carolina, and that’s where I met Tripp. That’s one thing about Tripp, he could pay you attention. He could make you feel like the only person in the world.”

quote:

(3/13) “He was the most gorgeous man I’d ever laid eyes on. All-American. Great shape. The cutest little dimple. And the bluest eyes you’ve ever seen. On our first date we went with a bunch of people to a golf tournament in Hilton Head. All of us were sharing a hotel room. I hadn’t been with many guys before, so I was so nervous. I had Tripp go to the store and buy me tampons, just in case he wanted to try anything. But he never tried anything. He laid in bed and played with my hair the entire night. For weeks we slept together, without sleeping together. Door closed, lights off, nothing. Tripp was the first one to say ‘I love you.’ I’ve always been uncomfortable with those words, because I never had anyone to say them to. But one night we were kissing passionately in my dorm room, and Tripp just said it. I couldn’t say it back. I told him: ‘I think you’re really nice.’ But he was fine with that. He was the perfect gentleman. Tripp was the president of his fraternity. He’d take me to these parties, and he’d be the center of attention, all his brothers called him ‘Killa.’ He was a cheerleader for the football team, but he told everyone that he used to play. When he got injured his freshman year, the coaches made him a cheerleader so he could keep his scholarship. Tripp’s parents owned an Asbestos removal company, and they did well. Tripp drove a corvette. His family had a beach house with a 35-foot fishing boat. It wasn’t a yacht, but kinda a yacht. It was intimidating. I’d never been around that kind of money before. I worked as a waitress. I think I owned three outfits. But Tripp never made me feel inferior. During our first Christmas together he came to my hometown to visit my extended family. They’re good people, I love them. But they’re uneducated. They all live in trailers. Tripp showed up dressed as Santa. We went to the dollar store beforehand and bought a bunch of toys for all the kids. Tripp called their names one-by-one. He made everyone feel so special. Even Grandma was sitting on his lap. All the kids were looking up at him, beaming. It was the same way I looked at him. The way everyone looked at him. Like he was the greatest person in the world.”

quote:

(4/13) “After college Tripp and I moved to his hometown of Augusta, Georgia. It’s where The Masters golf tournament is played. There’s a lot of wealth in the city, but Tripp and I didn’t have any money. So we moved into an abandoned log cabin that belonged to his grandfather. Tripp got a job working for his parents, and I noticed he kept billing our renovations to the company. It didn’t seem right to me. But if I challenged him on it, it would lead to huge fights. He’d tell me to mind my own business. He’d call me ‘Little Ms. Christian.’ But an hour later it would be like nothing ever happened. The cabin had a huge fireplace. And Tripp was so romantic. He’d make us a steak dinner and we’d eat in front of the fire. There was something almost feminine about him. He dressed better than me. He was a better decorator, and a better dancer. It had always been his dream to have a big wedding. A courthouse would have been fine for me, but he chose the biggest Catholic church in town. I didn’t have many friends to invite. Hardly any family. My father wasn’t there to walk me down the aisle. I’d met him exactly once, when I was seventeen. He was my mom’s boss at the cotton mill. The first thing he said was: ‘You look more like me than my own daughter.’ Then I never saw him again. We seated Tripp’s guests on both sides of the aisle, so my side wouldn’t be empty. Tripp wanted the best of everything. He booked a fancy band from Atlanta. He rented a horse and carriage. He was adamant about having an open bar. He was bringing home $350 a week, so we couldn’t afford any of it. On the day before our wedding, we drove to pick up all the liquor. I think I mentioned that it was too much money. My cousin was in the car with us. And Tripp just cussed me out in front of her. He called me a bitch, and told me to shut the F up. I remember thinking: I shouldn’t marry this man. But everyone was going to be there the next day. It was too late to back out. Tripp was the main attraction at the wedding. He got up on stage and danced with the band. I laughed and cheered along with everyone else. If there’s anything my childhood prepared me for, it’s pretending that everything’s OK.”

quote:

(5/13) “Tripp only had half a testicle. He blamed it on an old football injury. It never bothered me, but it kept us from getting pregnant. After seven or eight attempts we decided to get a sperm donor. I could have cared less. Adoption, donor, it didn’t matter to me. But Tripp wanted to keep it a secret, even from our children. And I was respectful of that. We chose a donor who resembled Tripp, and our first son John came out looking a lot like Tripp. We ended up having four kids in five years. The children adored him. They were a little scared of him, like me. But they adored him. We’d go to the beach and he’d play in the ocean with them until the sun went down. Every Christmas Tripp was in charge of decorating our tree. He and the kids would spend hours on it, and when they finished it would look like something out of a magazine. On Halloween our family always had a theme: Batman, Batgirl, King and Queen of Arabia. That was all Tripp. He was the fun one. He was the affectionate one. He’d walk down the street and the neighborhood kids would just fall down around him. Those first few years were so good. We never had much money. Some weeks there’d be less than $100 in the account. But I couldn’t have been happier if it was ten million. I put all my energy into being a mom. We couldn’t afford childcare, so I stayed home with the kids. Their hair was always done right. Their clothes were always ironed. All the things I’d always wanted someone to do for me, I tried to do for them. I remember one night sitting on the back porch of our log cabin. The kids were playing in our blow-up pool. Tripp was building a treehouse for John, with a real deck around it. The weather was perfect. And I realized it was the happiest I’d ever been. It had always been my dream in life to have this great family. And now it was coming true. I thought: What else is there in life? These kids don’t care what I’ve been through. They don’t care about my childhood. They love me no matter what. I remember thinking: if I just put in the work, they’re gonna grow up. And they’ll be around. I’m gonna have unconditional love. I’m finally going to have a family.”

quote:

(6/13) “There was one time we were at our son John’s baseball game, and the umpire made a bad call. Tripp started screaming so bad that the police escorted him off the field. There was always that side of him. When his temper would flare, it would flare. But I think the abuse escalated so gradually that I didn’t even notice. It wasn’t so much physical. He was big on calling me names. And he’d get in my face. Like right in my face, and I’d think it was about to get physical. But then he’d throw something instead. Or punch a hole in the wall. Why did I stay with him? That’s the million-dollar question. He was ninety percent good, ten percent bad. And the good was so good. Tripp would lead our Bible study group every Wednesday night. He’d say all these off-the-cuff things about faith, and marriage. Everyone would be so amazed. I thought if I just kept helping him, the good would win over the bad. It’s not like I did nothing. We were going to counselors, therapists. I thought I was being a good wife, and mother. I’d grown up without a father. At least my kids had a father. And they adored their father. Whenever there was a particularly bad fight, he would sit us all down in the living room. He’d say: ‘Daddy’s really sorry that he’s mean to Mommy, but I’m going to get help. We’re going to be the best family ever.’ It seemed like he genuinely wanted to change. When we’d go to confession, I’d be in and out in two minutes. But Tripp would be in there forever. A huge line would be forming behind him. I remember thinking: ‘What did you do?’ Over the years his mood swings got worse and worse. There was one night, about ten years into our marriage, when he lost his temper and pushed me into the bathtub. I thought I broke my back. I was screaming that I couldn’t get up. Tripp ran outside on the porch and I heard a gunshot. It took me a couple minutes to crawl outside, and when I got there I found him lying face down in the yard. The gun was in the grass next to him. He said: ‘When everything comes out about what I’ve done, I’m going to kill myself.’ I said: ‘Tripp, tell me. What have you done? What?’ But he wouldn’t answer. He got up and walked back inside.”

quote:

(7/13) “How could I not have known? I’ve asked myself that so many times. We were married for twenty years; I knew all his friends, all his coworkers. Every day we’d eat lunch together at his office, and we’d talk about everything. He did travel a lot for work. Over the years he’d built up a huge pile of business receipts: for plane tickets, and hotels. I could never understand why he wouldn’t turn them in, so that his parents could reimburse us. We needed that money. Our credit cards were maxed out because Tripp lived above his means. Even though he brought home less than $50,000 a year, he was always paying for other people’s dinners. He bought a computer and projector for our son’s football team. But if I ever tried to challenge him on his spending, he’d fly into a rage. On the day our youngest daughter was born, he was so ugly to me in the hospital. He pushed the nursing cart across the room. He screamed: ‘Why don’t you get an F’in job?’ I tried to calm him down. I said: ‘I’m thinking about getting my real estate license.’ He laughed at me. He said: ‘Yeah, right. Sure you will.’ But that’s exactly what I did. I signed up for courses as soon as I got out of the hospital. On my first day the broker gave me a survey to fill out. There was a line where it asked me to choose a desired salary, and I chose the minimum, $20,000. It was never supposed to be a career. I just wanted to bring in a little extra money. I got my first listing while we were out of town at a soccer tournament. I remember crouching down outside of the hotel room. My hands were trembling, because Tripp was angry about something. But I closed the deal. It was a $5,000 commission. And it couldn’t have come at a better time. We were hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. We’d finally gotten a new house, but it was completely gutted. We were living in a tiny apartment in the back. One night I was dozing off, nursing the baby. Tripp was out of town on business. The kids were asleep. It was late, much too late for phone calls. And the phone rang. There was a woman’s voice on the other end. She said: ‘Venus, you don’t know me. But I’m calling to tell you what an awful man your husband is.’”

quote:

(8/13) “I woke up our oldest son John. I said: ‘Your dad’s been living a double life, so I’ve got to run down and meet somebody. Can you watch the baby?’ Even as I was driving there, I didn’t believe any of the things the woman had told me. I thought she was lying. I thought I was going there to confront her. To defend the father of my six kids. The hotel was at the back of a Denny’s. When I knocked on the door, a young girl answered. She was much younger than I imagined. Not a teenager, but young. She was tiny. I think she was on drugs. Her hands were fidgeting. She invited me inside the room, and we sat down on the edge of one of the queen beds. She began to tell me the exact same story that she’d told me over the phone. She said that Tripp had been sleeping with prostitutes for years. And they were blackmailing him. They’d taken all our money. He’d given them credit cards and they’d maxed them all out. The girl seemed like she might have been in love with Tripp. She told me that she didn’t charge him for sex anymore. She told me that she’d met our youngest daughter, and Tripp promised her they would start a new life together. She described this charming man, who suddenly turns into someone that is trying to kill you. And I knew then that she was telling the truth. She pulled out her phone and started showing me photos of Tripp. I can only remember one of them. He was behind the wheel of his car. He had the biggest smile on his face. And his pants were down. Right then the phone rang. She turns it to me, and it’s Tripp. ‘I told him I was meeting you,’ she said. ‘And he’s threatening to kill me.’ She asked if I could help her buy a bus ticket to Atlanta. I pulled out my checkbook and wrote her a $100 check. ‘There’s no money in this account,’ I told her. ‘But I just closed on a house. So wait a week before you cash it.’ I gave her my phone number. I told her that if she decided to get out of this life, I would help her. I felt sorry for her. Even with everything she’d told me, I wasn’t mad. I saw a wounded soul. Someone who’d grown up just like me. Someone who hadn’t escaped. I guess I hadn’t escaped either, not completely. But I was trying.”

quote:

(9/13) “Tripp never came home after that night. He admitted to the prostitution, but he blamed it on a sex addiction. He checked himself into a rehab facility in Mississippi. It was during this time that the full truth came out. One of my daughters came to me, and told me a story about her father. It was the worst thing it could possibly be. It wasn’t just prostitutes. It was inside the home. Of course Tripp denied everything. I hired the best polygraph technician in Atlanta. And I guess Tripp thought he was smarter than the machine, because he volunteered to take the test. Afterward the technician called me. He said: ‘You’d be an unfit mother if you let him come home.’ The police got involved, and Tripp drove himself to the station without a lawyer. He volunteered to be interviewed. And it was his own words that put him away. He didn’t confess to everything. But he confessed to enough. When they played the recording in court, I couldn’t even listen to it. I was called to testify against him. The whole time I was on the stand, Tripp kept trying to get my attention. The judge tried to stop him, but he wouldn’t stop. He kept tapping the face of his wristwatch, mouthing three words: ‘It’s. Our. Anniversary.’ I hadn’t even realized what day it was. Tripp was charged with two counts of aggravated child molestation and sentenced to 45 years in prison. On the night of his sentencing I gathered my kids around the kitchen table. I told them: ‘Your father did some very bad things. But those things had nothing to do with us. I’m scared right now. But I’m your mother, and I’m not going to let this bring us down.’ That night I laid in bed and felt like I wanted to die. We were hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. And I had six kids to feed. The next morning I woke up at 5 AM and ran 5 miles. I started doing it every morning. I’d always been a runner, but this time I felt like I was running for my life. After a week I got a call from one of my friends. She said: ‘Venus, I think you should know what everyone is saying. They see you running down Walton Way in the morning. And they say you don’t act like a woman whose husband just got put away for child molestation.’”

GWBBQ has a new favorite as of 00:12 on Mar 5, 2022

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Christ

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply