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Well Picard is starting off stronger than I imagined. I'm in. Loved seeing ships again and that may be the best de-aging I've seen. Also was that a Probert Ambassador?
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The picard premiere is so funny to just throw out practically everything from the end of the first season and do a time jump of about two years to try and smooth it over. You can also see choices that are clear reactions to legitimate criticisms of the first, like Rios having a cigar, but not smoking it, and actual ship diversity instead of copy/pasting a single one. I think it worked well enough as an episode that's meant to dive more into picard's personal life and his outlook on life. Even if the whole cast being in star fleet now (except for Seven in the old ship) is contrived as hell, the driving action of a potential first contact with a power alien species that wants into the federation - oops it's the borg is good enough. The problem is that we all know it's going to get thrown out for time travel adventures and I am not optimistic about that.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:14
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nine-gear crow posted:Admiral IMO the one thing New Trek never gets wrong, it's costuming. The uniforms are always on point, from the beginning of Discovery to now
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Mar 3, 2022 23:20
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For an episode that was essentially a series of long slow conversations about being old this was incredibly engaging. It was like the antithesis of a Discovery episode in every possible way.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:29
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Alchenar posted:For an episode that was essentially a series of long slow conversations about being old this was incredibly engaging. The Guinan bit was all I wanted Picard to be from the beginning.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:30
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The best Star Trek films/episodes are all the ones that are full of long slow conversations about being old. This is an opinion I genuinely hold.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:31
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The Bloop posted:PICARD  Now I wonder if there are robots that fly around, scan the soil for truffles and transport them into a container.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:32
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It's a mi or touch, but I liked the green blood on the Vulcan's face at the beginning of the episode.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:32
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Alchenar posted:The best Star Trek films/episodes are all the ones that are full of long slow conversations about being old. This is an opinion I genuinely hold. You know this actually super checks out
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Mar 3, 2022 23:32
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That was miles better than anything in season 1. My only super minor plot-related gripe: other than dramatic tension for the cold open, why was Picard the one that activates the self destruct on someone else's ship? Doesn't really make sense they'd transfer the command codes around every time some high schmuckety schmuck admiral decides to visit for a couple days.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:36
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I'd imagine admirals have command code authorization on all Starfleet ships
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Mar 3, 2022 23:38
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Arrinien posted:That was miles better than anything in season 1. My only super minor plot-related gripe: other than dramatic tension for the cold open, why was Picard the one that activates the self destruct on someone else's ship? Doesn't really make sense they'd transfer the command codes around every time some high schmuckety schmuck admiral decides to visit for a couple days. I’m assuming Picard used a general override duress code to blow the ship up. Judging by how it was just “Zero Zero Zero Execute”. Something that probably any admiral could do on any ship if things got beyond the pale hosed up.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:43
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I really liked how when the negative space wedgie opened it looked like space was actually tearing and ripping.
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all right...............guess i'll check out ep1 of s2
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Charity Porno posted:You know this actually super checks out I'm cheating a little because that is the theme of all of the films.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:
Bet there are some farmers that advertise their produce as "transporter beam free"
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Lister posted:The picard premiere is so funny to just throw out practically everything from the end of the first season and do a time jump of about two years to try and smooth it over. You can also see choices that are clear reactions to legitimate criticisms of the first, like Rios having a cigar, but not smoking it, and actual ship diversity instead of copy/pasting a single one. It’s clear from the way things are being set up that the plot of the season is going to be Picard and crew working their way back to the moment when Picard blows up the Stargazer, and this time, given what he’s learned over the course of the season he decides not to blow up the ship and let the Queen finish whatever she was doing and see how that plays out from there. So it seems like it’s actually going to underpin the whole season even if it’s not a front of mind concern for most of it. Just spitballing here.
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Alchenar posted:I'm cheating a little because that is the theme of all of the films. Also a theme in Beyond, which is the best of the three JJ movies
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Grand Fromage posted:The Guinan bit was all I wanted Picard to be from the beginning. Just going to quote this forever.
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nine-gear crow posted:It’s clear from the way things are being set up that the plot of the season is going to be Picard and crew working their way back to the moment when Picard blows up the Stargazer, and this time, given what he’s learned over the course of the season he decides not to blow up the ship and let the Queen finish whatever she was doing and see how that plays out from there. So it seems like it’s actually going to underpin the whole season even if it’s not a front of mind concern for most of it. Yeah the moral of this season is all going to be about taking risks and opening your heart to someone and not being closed off. It's all there in the first episode. Laying that out there immediately is fine though, the mystery they've set up is interesting enough.
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I love how Jurati just awkwardly jungle gyms her way around all the dumb flowing arches of your typical Starfleet bridge set. I’ve been waiting 30 years for someone to do that.
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Hell getting old is even a bit of a theme in galaxy quest
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I've paused Picard to ask the thread one question that can only lead to pure theorizing unless someone is in contact with the writer's room: When Alison Pill says she's "half in the bag" is this a very coy wink at Red Letter Media?
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DaveKap posted:I've paused Picard to ask the thread one question that can only lead to pure theorizing unless someone is in contact with the writer's room: She was kind of channeling a bit of Mike Stoklasa energy there, yeah. It’s a relatively common euphemism for being drunk that it could go either way, but I could see Matalas probably being a closet RLM fan and slipping that in there as a nod.
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Glad to see Starfleet is still completely clueless when it comes to alien tech. (Picard) "This is the first ship to be built with what we've learned by analyzing Borg technology! It's very cool." (five minutes later) "Oh no! The Borg are assimilating the ship through the Borg stuff we hardwired into the systems! This has never happened before!" That post about humans being the most terrifying species in the Federation because of our propensity for just doing weird poo poo and seeing what breaks continues to be extremely accurate.
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I love that when handed the show, Matalas immediately just soft rebooted it. This really felt like a “oops, let’s try this again” kickoff and it worked.
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Alchenar posted:Yeah the moral of this season is all going to be about taking risks and opening your heart to someone and not being closed off. It's all there in the first episode. Also thinking on it longer for a bit, I am immensely amused that the crux of this season, Q’s Last Grand Trial of Humanity is going to come down to convincing “Jean-Luc, blow up the drat ship!” Picard… to NOT blow up the drat ship. That’s like the one thing he truly loves doing. It is literally his greatest barrier. 
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Hmmm it appears this alien species...loved their kids? Excellent, finally we have a basis for first contact glad we spent a quarter of our ticking clock sussing that out. Anyway, twelve hours until my planet is destroyed, would you care to join me on a holodeck date?
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HD DAD posted:I love that when handed the show, Matalas immediately just soft rebooted it. This really felt like a “oops, let’s try this again” kickoff and it worked. Give Star Trek to people who actually like Star Trek and can write and gosh it turns out they produce the good poo poo
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Picard season 1 be like "I'm not sure where we're going, but can I offer you a ride? Noooo, come back." Picard season 2 be like "get in, loser, we're doing a Star Trek." Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Alchenar posted:Give Star Trek to people who actually like Star Trek and can write and gosh it turns out they produce the good poo poo Discovery fell down a flight of stairs so that Lower Decks, Prodigy and Picard could get up, walk, and then run... the gently caress away from its broken, heaving husk.
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So are people feeling that the Borg offshoot are legit, but just have poo poo interpersonal skills due to years of living in the collective? At the end of the season Picard returns to this moment and doesn't blow up the Stargazer, the Borg use the fleets power to do whatever it is they need to (maybe closing that rift in space?) and then give back control with a "sorry, we were being chased, was no time to explain"?
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Alchenar posted:Give Star Trek to people who actually like Star Trek and can write and gosh it turns out they produce the good poo poo It's like you can always, always feel a creator's love or distain for what they're making come through in the final work. Senor Tron posted:So are people feeling that the Borg offshoot are legit, but just have poo poo interpersonal skills due to years of living in the collective? I'd be shocked if that's not the case because there's nothing more classic TNG than a former enemy becoming a friend.
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Confirmed, Q is aware that Star Trek is a TV show can see all the episode titles and credits.
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nine-gear crow posted:Confirmed, Q is aware that Star Trek is a TV show can see all the episode titles and credits. He clearly has CHIM.
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Charity Porno posted:IMO the one thing New Trek never gets wrong, it's costuming. The uniforms are always on point, from the beginning of Discovery to now You sure about that? 
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Senor Tron posted:So are people feeling that the Borg offshoot are legit, but just have poo poo interpersonal skills due to years of living in the collective? Definitely this. Seems like the reason we saw the gearface drone instead of the recognizable queen is because it's some splintered-off mini-collective making their own representative. Seven calling it the Queen is probably a red herring.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Definitely this. The transmission from the Borg ship called it "our queen."
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