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babypolis posted:remember at the beginning of the movie when off brand han solo murders a person in cold blood because he was mildly inconveniencing him, as if to say "THIS AINT YOUR GRANDMAS STAR WARS". then this is never mentioned or brought up again and the character just acts like off brand han solo for the rest of the movie that’s pretty much what happened with Original Recipe Han Solo too
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Mar 3, 2022 23:35
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indigi posted:that’s pretty much what happened with Original Recipe Han Solo too shooting first makes han a cool badass. murdering some dude because they are wounded and might be captured is some psycho poo poo
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Mar 3, 2022 23:37
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Batman doesn't say the N word and doesn't gently caress. No point in watching the film imo. gently caress BATMAN
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Mar 3, 2022 23:37
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josh04 posted:marty slaps, the scene where the mum and the aunt talk about being edged out of your own family is tremendous, as is the scene with the two irish women at the bar telling that one joke yes! even the non-speaking characters have stuff to do, it's great
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Mar 3, 2022 23:39
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Maclunkey! -quote from man shot
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Mar 3, 2022 23:46
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babypolis posted:remember at the beginning of the movie when off brand han solo murders a person in cold blood because he was mildly inconveniencing him, as if to say "THIS AINT YOUR GRANDMAS STAR WARS". then this is never mentioned or brought up again and the character just acts like off brand han solo for the rest of the movie A desperate and scared resistance that executes its own members to avoid their capture is one of the few interesting things they could do away from the Skywalker-focused films.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:49
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It's just setting him up as A Man That Makes Hard Choices For the Rebel Alliance so it's not as shocking later when he's got secret orders to assassinate her dad.
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Mar 3, 2022 23:53
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I think the original intent of Rogue one was to portray the rebels more like the taliban or iraq insurgents, basically terrorists, but that was too strong for Disney's taste so they toned it down a lot
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Mar 4, 2022 00:09
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Knight posted:Are you talking about the guy who couldn't escape because of his injured arm? Pretty sure he was about to get captured, interrogated, tortured and/or killed by space fascists, potentially giving up information that would compromise his other contacts in the process. It was definitely a "THIS AINT UR..." moment but that's far from a mild inconvenience. yeah im not saying its not an interesting direction to go in but it never goes anywhere McCloud posted:I think the original intent of Rogue one was to portray the rebels more like the taliban or iraq insurgents, basically terrorists, but that was too strong for Disney's taste so they toned it down a lot basically
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Mar 4, 2022 00:15
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saw guerrera did nothing wrong
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The empire was always a stand in for the US, so it would have not only been incredibly fitting, but also funny
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Saw Guerrera Che Guevarra Hmm
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gradenko_2000 posted:Saw Guerrera I hate disney
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Mar 4, 2022 02:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:Saw Guerrera The character is originally from a Clone Wars arc where the Separatists take over a planet and there's a guerilla resistance that gets trained and supplied by the Republic, including Anakin personally. There's even a subplot with shady drug smugglers shipping the resistance anti air missiles to shoot down space Hinds lol
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StashAugustine posted:The character is originally from a Clone Wars arc where the Separatists take over a planet and there's a guerilla resistance that gets trained and supplied by the Republic, including Anakin personally. There's even a subplot with shady drug smugglers shipping the resistance anti air missiles to shoot down space Hinds lol He shows up again in the Rebels cartoon, leading a faction of insurgents who are way more extreme than the rest of the rebellion would like. I haven't watched any of it so I don't know how bad any of it actually was - but afaik he never comes off as being evil per se. It's an open question whether their methods are really necessary. Plus by tying Saw's group into Rogue One and the eventual destruction of the Death Star, Disney sort of has made clear that their methods were necessary, so go loving figure. I'm sure they didn't even mean it that way, but this is their canon.
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Mar 4, 2022 02:55
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is lord of the rings socialist?
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AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? only if sam pushed both frodo and gollum in and kept the ring
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AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? no it’s feudalist
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AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? yes. capitalism is when there are Bad Dudes
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McCloud posted:I think the original intent of Rogue one was to portray the rebels more like the taliban or iraq insurgents, basically terrorists, but that was too strong for Disney's taste so they toned it down a lot Hopefully they go back to it for the Andors show if that's still happening. I assume it's going to be better than Space COPS
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:He shows up again in the Rebels cartoon, leading a faction of insurgents who are way more extreme than the rest of the rebellion would like. I haven't watched any of it so I don't know how bad any of it actually was - but afaik he never comes off as being evil per se. It's an open question whether their methods are really necessary. Plus by tying Saw's group into Rogue One and the eventual destruction of the Death Star, Disney sort of has made clear that their methods were necessary, so go loving figure. I'm sure they didn't even mean it that way, but this is their canon. Yeah, he's not really the bad guy in Rebels, just more ruthless and doesn't trust Mon Mothma- which, given how Rogue One ends with half the fledgling Alliance flinching and going home, he's not really wrong on that one
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StashAugustine posted:saw guerrera did nothing wrong he let a sex pest tentacle monster have its way with people cancelled
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AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? Tolkien was a weird anarcho-environmentalist. He had no real love for capital but his politics were 'extremely the kind of politics you'd expect from a man who got his brain hosed up in WW1' which is to say 'I want to gently caress off and be a fat lil man in the shire raising a prized pig and that's humanity's ideal state'. So, better than many, but no not exactly a blueprint for views.
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StashAugustine posted:Yeah supposedly Jyn was supposed to be part of Saw's gang from the start but Disney balked at having their protagonist be in the space Taliban and they had to recut most of the opening But of course! On top of everything else, Disney is a Company Studio. That's probably why they had Joss Whedon Jr. and J.J. direct the rest. sexpig by night posted:Tolkien was a weird anarcho-environmentalist. He had no real love for capital but his politics were 'extremely the kind of politics you'd expect from a man who got his brain hosed up in WW1' which is to say 'I want to gently caress off and be a fat lil man in the shire raising a prized pig and that's humanity's ideal state'. Which is extra funny because hobbits that weren't Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, Pipin, and Sam were all presented as the fantasy equivalent of awful suburbanites. Clip-On Fedora has issued a correction as of 04:52 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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Clip-On Fedora posted:But of course! On top of everything else, Disney is a Company Studio. yea he was able to explore the flaws of even his 'ideal' state of being, which is part of why his world feels so good to experience. He loves The Shire, clearly, it's very obvious it's the avatar for what he views as a lost simplicity, but yea he also knows that even in that you can still be a prick, so he's got the Sackville-Baggins and such to be lovely little gossipy HOAs.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles...on-dvd-part-one
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lmao this still holds up quote:CHOMSKY: From what I understand, Orcish is a patois that the Orcs developed during their enslavement by Rohan, before they rebelled and left. quote:Chomsky: So militaristic. i say swears online has issued a correction as of 05:53 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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oh i was just reminded of this as well, i remember this being good poo poo http://mccaine.org/2013/08/29/the-lord-of-the-rings-an-unreliable-narrative-part-i/
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"disturbing" https://twitter.com/Metro_Ents/status/1499305845645062145?s=20
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i say swears online posted:oh i was just reminded of this as well, i remember this being good poo poo from the URL I was like “here comes the red book of westmarch hypothesis” and lol first heading title e: also he did consider that and wrote and spoke about it at length
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babypolis posted:remember at the beginning of the movie when off brand han solo murders a person in cold blood because he was mildly inconveniencing him, as if to say "THIS AINT YOUR GRANDMAS STAR WARS". then this is never mentioned or brought up again and the character just acts like off brand han solo for the rest of the movie Andor is nothing at all like Han!? Not in personality or methods or occupation . . ? He does have a sassy sidekick and a gun, but that's about the only similarities I can come up with AnimeIsTrash posted:is lord of the rings socialist? It's a fairly conservative fantasy but still pretty good for all that. sexpig by night posted:Tolkien was a weird anarcho-environmentalist. He had no real love for capital but his politics were 'extremely the kind of politics you'd expect from a man who got his brain hosed up in WW1' which is to say 'I want to gently caress off and be a fat lil man in the shire raising a prized pig and that's humanity's ideal state'. lol wut He was ultra catholic and conservative, even cs lewis thought his politics were a bit much sometimes! It doesn't really matter because he's dead (like all authors  ) and can't stop anyone from doing gay readings of his work, but he certainly would if he could.
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it's probably the least worrying thing kanye has done in two years, honestly he probably wasn't involved in it on that basis beyond signing off on the idea
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"quite enjoyable" fits better, "viscerally satisfying" would be too much
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Blood Boils posted:He was ultra catholic and conservative yes, no. by the end he was a pretty liberal small-c conservative even for his time period, and here and now he’d be to the left of Bernie Sanders (he was actually anticapitalist and antiwar) indigi has issued a correction as of 15:13 on Mar 4, 2022 |
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I don't know how you guys feel about Michael Moorcock, but I found his rant on Tolkein pretty entertaining. https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/arts/english/currentstudents/undergraduate/modules/en361fantastika/bibliography/2.7moorcock_m.1978epic_pooh.pdf
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