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Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Crazy Forteana event caught on film, a huge flock of blackbirds drops out of the sky and smashes into the ground leaving dozens of them dead or stunned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHRAKowr67s

There's been quite a few similar events reported in the past:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-60345914
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2020/01/16/starlings-took-avoiding-action-before-hitting-road-say-police/
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/09/26/mystery-solved-for-dozens-of-birds-plummeting-to-death-from-the-sky-in-b-c/
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-12130940
Etc etc etc

The most popular explanation is that they did a sudden change of course because they were spooked by a predator and just dived straight down, and the birds in the middle of the flock couldn't see how close they were to the surface and just slammed into the road at full speed

I saw the video for that in some other thread. It's way more abrupt and active than I would've guessed, it really does look more like an intentional change in flight (with unintended consequences) than the vague "birds falling out of the sky" I initially expected.

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
that's pretty hosed up, gotta say. I always feel bad for animals when they do something like that. They don't know better

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Captain Hygiene posted:

One that sounds interesting but I haven't watched yet is MOMO: The Missouri Monster. Apparently it's a split between a modern documentary* and a faux 1970s-style recreation of whatever cryptid events allegedly went on back then.


*or mockumentary?? I've heard conflicting claims about the level of seriousness of the film, it sounds wild either way

FYI I watched this and it was pretty fun. Definitely on the straightfaced campy side, especially for the faux 70s stuff (which turned out to be a fictional film adaptation of the incident discussed by the modern 'documentary' segments). Anyways it was a fun weekend watch.

Snooze Cruise posted:

That one is done by small town monsters, which imo if ya post in this thread you should check out their stuff

I hadn't heard of them before, but I'll definitely be following up.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

E: the Animal Planet show 'Extinct or Alive' went looking for giant lemurs not too long ago but didn't find any
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FW-FhcI8D8

The show actually did find some supposedly extinct animals in other episodes, such as the Zanzibar leopard, the Fernandina Island Galapagos tortoise and a few others. Most episodes end in failure but they have a couple wins under their belt which puts them WAY ahead of every other cryptid hunter reality TV show.

That guy has a new series out called "Mysterious Creatures With Forrest Galante" where he travels around to areas where there's been reports of a specific cryptid and tries to track it down and prove what it is one way or the other. I just watched episode 2 where he goes to hunt down to Ozark Howler and without giving too much away it's not your typical cryptid hunting show. A few people have uploaded the episode to Youtube if you don't have a subscription to the relevant streaming services

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD9ItKTO_yY

I won't spoil the ending but although I'm pretty sure his previous show was mostly real and only somewhat scripted/faked for the camera, but I'm leaning hard in the other direction on this one

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Wanna watch a dude who looks like a real life wizard search for fairies? Heck yes you do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhypaOgXuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OfyqFr3lo4&t=1114s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAK2eR7bcqE

Erwin Saunders is a delight, I demand everyone in this thread subscribe to his channel.

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

BrownPepper posted:

LOL at the end of the day it always comes back to "whatever pays the bills".

Yeah, even as a self-righteous reductionist and skeptic if I were to stumble into a cryptozoological gravy train, I'd go all in. it beats working.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Cry Wilderness is the best Bigfoot movie.

He likes coke and rock music!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

twistedmentat posted:

Cry Wilderness is the best Bigfoot movie.

He likes coke and rock music!

drat, he sounds like a party animal!

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Mokelumne Trekka posted:

Yeah, even as a self-righteous reductionist and skeptic if I were to stumble into a cryptozoological gravy train, I'd go all in. it beats working.

There's a ghost hunting channel that years ago accidentally uploaded a video where they left in a blooper - guy off screen pushed open a door as the "ghost" too early and the guy behind the camera chided him. I went and checked out the channel a few months back and they were still getting great views.

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

I hope this wasn't posted ITT yet but this is a great takedown of Bob Lazar. It falls along the same lines as the discussion above - the very human reasons behind doubling down on a grift. (To quote the article, "It's about saving his rear end.")

https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/

I sometimes wonder about John A. Keel and other writers like him. I'll use a similar, made-up person because I don't know his exact career trajectory:

John A. Peele is a 20-year-old kid and wants to be a journalist. By chance, he gets to do a story on a weird local phenomenon. This gets the attention of an editor at Fortean Magazine, who hires Peele. Pleased that he has a steady income, Peele taps into something big when he starts doing UFO reports. Bigger paychecks come in. He sort of knows most of this stuff is nonsense. Does he ruin his unusual career path by announcing that to the public? Well, imagine an established "paranormal journalist" trying to reset his life... Peele goes on to write some best-selling UFO/cryptid books! Even decades later, movie producers contact him for the rights to one of his books. The money never stopped.

BrownPepper
Dec 30, 2017

Mokelumne Trekka posted:

Yeah, even as a self-righteous reductionist and skeptic if I were to stumble into a cryptozoological gravy train, I'd go all in. it beats working.

Hell yeah, me too. And you'd being doing a lot less harm than a lot of "real" jobs.


Groovelord Neato posted:

There's a ghost hunting channel that years ago accidentally uploaded a video where they left in a blooper - guy off screen pushed open a door as the "ghost" too early and the guy behind the camera chided him. I went and checked out the channel a few months back and they were still getting great views.

I think this goes back to the "reality" of these shows being another level of artifice for viewers. I'm sure some people are still watching this stuff out of genuine belief in whatever ghosts or monsters but a lot of people just want a spooky show and pretending it's real makes it scarier. Then once you realize its super cheap to film grainy footage in abandoned school or whatever the industry takes it from there. Most of these new shows are more like disposable youtube content (sometimes very entertaining!) than the more serious minded documentary style shows (which are also goofy to be clear- I just have an aesthetic preference for them).

Edit: worse grammar errors than the ones i left uncorrected

BrownPepper has a new favorite as of 20:54 on Feb 23, 2022

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

I used to love the ghost hunters live specials on Halloween because it revealed just how much they had to edit down to get an actual episode of the show not to be boring or super obvious that it was all hokum.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Mokelumne Trekka posted:

I hope this wasn't posted ITT yet but this is a great takedown of Bob Lazar. It falls along the same lines as the discussion above - the very human reasons behind doubling down on a grift. (To quote the article, "It's about saving his rear end.")

https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/

I sometimes wonder about John A. Keel and other writers like him. I'll use a similar, made-up person because I don't know his exact career trajectory:

John A. Peele is a 20-year-old kid and wants to be a journalist. By chance, he gets to do a story on a weird local phenomenon. This gets the attention of an editor at Fortean Magazine, who hires Peele. Pleased that he has a steady income, Peele taps into something big when he starts doing UFO reports. Bigger paychecks come in. He sort of knows most of this stuff is nonsense. Does he ruin his unusual career path by announcing that to the public? Well, imagine an established "paranormal journalist" trying to reset his life... Peele goes on to write some best-selling UFO/cryptid books! Even decades later, movie producers contact him for the rights to one of his books. The money never stopped.

The list of reasons to believe Lazar is what I saw touted recently with people suggesting that maybe he is telling the truth. It was weird because all of that is either circumstantial or reported by Lazar himself.

The only real evidence he had was that pay stub, which as this guy says, probably is from when he was just a computer toucher for the base. I do like how its possible the UFO story comes from him trying to stay out of jail for bringing his friends to watch super secret weapon tests.

Napoleon Nelson
Nov 8, 2012


It's finally time for another excursion into the world of British Cryptids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0-lAdhxX7U

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
On the conspiracy front, Netflix recently An Unlikely Murderer, a drama about the supposedly assassin of Swedish prime minister Olof Palme. It's a well put together, well acted show ... that I ultimately can't recommend because even the story told within the show is thin and implausible. The Swedish police have essentially said "this is the guy, case closed" to an outcry of disbelief. Which leaves us with the unpalatable idea that someone killed a head of state in plain sight, got away and we still don't know who they are.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Olof_Palme
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Engstr%C3%B6m_(suspected_murderer)

stereobreadsticks
Feb 28, 2008

Napoleon Nelson posted:

It's finally time for another excursion into the world of British Cryptids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0-lAdhxX7U

I love how true to the 1970s documentary aesthetic these things are and I'm really looking forward to the inevitable day that one of his videos goes viral and people become convinced that these entirely made up cryptids not only exist but have decades or centuries of lore behind them. The fake Wordsworth quote at the beginning of this video is so great, it almost reminds me of a Borges short story.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Based on how flimsy most cryptid origins are, I can definitely see them catching on and just becoming real folklore.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

I saw the Stagmen one a while ago, and I honestly believed that it was a genuine bit of British folklore, and I’m from here.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Me too.

I had recently read The Gallows Pole a pretty good historical novel about 18th century coin clippers and one main character has frequent visions of Stagmen. So I just assumed they were some obscure piece of northern folklore

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm
Wait, are they completely inventing the cryptids? I assumed they were just highlighting real legends.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
And thus we have all just learned a very valuable lesson in verifying information using multiple sources :v:

Rascar Capac
Aug 31, 2016

Surprisingly nice, for an evil Inca mummy.

The_Doctor posted:

I saw the Stagmen one a while ago, and I honestly believed that it was a genuine bit of British folklore, and I’m from here.

The Stagmen one is their masterpiece.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Rascar Capac posted:

The Stagmen one is their masterpiece.

lol this is great. I don't know how I've never watched one of their videos before, everyone on the fence get off and watch em right now.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Napoleon Nelson posted:

It's finally time for another excursion into the world of British Cryptids:

Coincidentally enough the latest episode of Mysterious Creatures With Forrest Galante features a pretty similar story, where he 'proves' that the Lake Chelan Dragon was actually just some big ol' sturgeons that had been living there after the lake was dammed in the 1930s but had since died out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXOITep866E

By extraordinary coincidence he just happens to go diving in the exact right spot in the 50 mile long lake to discover sturgeon scutes that had been sitting there for decades waiting for him to stumble over them, what amazing luck! I'm sure he didn't buy them off eBay for this stunt or anything

Greg of Doom
Dec 22, 2021

by sebmojo
So this is about 30 years old

Tic Tac UFO much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnofCyaWhI0

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Crossposting from the UFO thread of all places:

https://twitter.com/nick_kapur/status/1500482391395254276

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
a woman with multiple fox tails has arrived at my door. she says she is a traveling saleswoman but this tweet has me suspicious.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Snooze Cruise posted:

a woman with multiple fox tails has arrived at my door. she says she is a traveling saleswoman but this tweet has me suspicious.

Wife her up immediately

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Everyone knows foxes are the most trustworthy of all Japanese spirits, so I say trust her

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Honestly, I feel like gambling on whatever hellworld surprise Tamamo-no-Mae had in mind is a pretty safe bet at this point

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
"Hahaha! At last, after a thousand years, I am free to destroy the wor- oh. Oh poo poo. I, uh, guess you folks are already beating me to it."

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Alpha, Tamamo-no-Mae's escaped. Assemble a team of geologists with attitude.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

a kitten posted:

Everyone knows foxes are the most trustworthy of all Japanese spirits, so I say trust her

I liked how in Ghost of Tsushima you could pet them.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

twistedmentat posted:

I liked how in Ghost of Tsushima you could pet them.

:hai:

https://twitter.com/canyoupetthedog/status/1433804195279278085

:3:

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

1stGear posted:

"Hahaha! At last, after a thousand years, I am free to destroy the wor- oh. Oh poo poo. I, uh, guess you folks are already beating me to it."

Never shoulda touched the black sarcophagus

stereobreadsticks
Feb 28, 2008
So I just finished rereading The Book of Imaginary Beings by Jorge Luis Borges, which compiles a selection of fantastical creatures from literature, mythology, and folklore, and I was reminded of the existence of the rather silly creatures from Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods by William T. Cox. Animals such as the Axehandle Hound, a dog shaped like an axe that subsists on axehandles; the Goofus Bird, which flies backwards because it's more interested in where it came from than where it's going; and the Gumberoo, a massive, fat, hairless bear whose skin is almost indestructible but which catastrophically explodes when exposed to fire.

Now, I could go on and on about these things and other similar legends but I was just kind of curious about what the thread's favorite silly cryptids and legenary creatures are. Although I'm not personally a huge fan I'd like to throw in a shout out to the Fresno nightcrawler for being from my hometown and just being a walking pair of pants, it doesn't get much sillier than that.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I actually don't know about too many particularly silly ones, although I'm on board with the Gumberoo now. And yeah, the Fresno Nightcrawler makes me laugh every time.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URBxJvwSzZw

Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


This swaggy motherfucker:



Thirding the Fresno Nightcrawler as well.

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Blackfish
Sep 12, 2007

we have to be prepared to smoke a thousand joints before our quest is complete
I love Fresno Nightcrawlers, but I also love Kansas' cryptid, Sinkhole Sam. A huge worm some dudes saw in the 20s near Inman. Just a big earthworm the size of a tire, hanging out in a sinkhole and never seen again.

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