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let's establish the numerous ways Shiggy is hosed. oh wait, he's madara and nothing works.
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I find AFO/Shiggy's apparently infinite powers incredibly boring but this has been a noticeable problem for MHA at least back to overhaul and probably earlier. when the guy whose power was "perfect control on the molecular level of all matter he touches" decided his big move was to make himself into a kaiju that felt like a sign.
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Mar 5, 2022 02:40
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Overhaul feels like a filler FMA villain that has a poorly defined power set clearly at odds with the canon characters. He should be able to do something more interesting, but he just... doesn't.
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Mar 5, 2022 02:57
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That’s honestly the problem i always had with shiggy. Dude can thanos snap anyone with a touch and that’s hard to make exciting and tense and well the fact he’s basically Madara makes it boring
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Mar 5, 2022 03:14
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Shindragon posted:That’s honestly the problem i always had with shiggy. Dude can thanos snap anyone with a touch and that’s hard to make exciting and tense and well the fact he’s basically Madara makes it boring Shigaraki with his original, pre-awakening power works fine. Not in a standard punchfest kind of way, but he has a ludicrously powerful ability that instantly kills if it works, but it has clearly defined and exploitable limitations - he has to touch you successfully with all five fingers of one hand. You could write a Jojo-style fight out of that, where it's all about both sides trying to manipulate the other in various ways to get the other side to fall into the "I win" conditions for their respective Ever since he "evolved" it got really stupid because the power now has no clearly defined limitations or weaknesses beyond "just shoot Shigaraki in the brain and kill him instantly before he can ever touch anything or get near anything ever because if he does the decay will propagate infinitely with no apparent range limit", and then he became Super Shigaraki with not only AfO's powers but also a superman nomu body with infinite regeneration. There's not really much of a way to make an interesting fight out of a character whose powerset is now the equivalent of a kid on the playground making up new powers to explain why he didn't lose a fight because he's actually invincible.
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Mar 5, 2022 03:29
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Shindragon posted:That’s honestly the problem i always had with shiggy. Dude can thanos snap anyone with a touch and that’s hard to make exciting and tense and well the fact he’s basically Madara makes it boring Madara without the camp and smugness. Madara was boring at times, but he was excellent at both poo poo talking and hyping his opponents. Kanos posted:Ever since he "evolved" it got really stupid because the power now has no clearly defined limitations or weaknesses beyond "just shoot Shigaraki in the brain and kill him instantly before he can ever touch anything or get near anything ever because if he does the decay will propagate infinitely with no apparent range limit", and then he became Super Shigaraki with not only AfO's powers but also a superman nomu body with infinite regeneration. There's not really much of a way to make an interesting fight out of a character whose powerset is now the equivalent of a kid on the playground making up new powers to explain why he didn't lose a fight because he's actually invincible. Its worse than that. He already beat the kid who had that as her power.
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Mar 5, 2022 03:34
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Kanos posted:Shigaraki with his original, pre-awakening power works fine. Not in a standard punchfest kind of way, but he has a ludicrously powerful ability that instantly kills if it works, but it has clearly defined and exploitable limitations - he has to touch you successfully with all five fingers of one hand. You could write a Jojo-style fight out of that, where it's all about both sides trying to manipulate the other in various ways to get the other side to fall into the "I win" conditions for their respective To put this a different way: Shigaraki was very all or nothing in his initial state. If his power works, you die. But on the other hand, if he doesn't connect with his power, he's just a twiggy guy who is a bit faster than your average Joe. There's a vulnerability in that, but now he's just an invulnerable brick.
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Mar 5, 2022 04:27
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:To put this a different way: Shigaraki was very all or nothing in his initial state. If his power works, you die. But on the other hand, if he doesn't connect with his power, he's just a twiggy guy who is a bit faster than your average Joe. he could move faster than the untrained eye could see and had such a high pain tolerance that he wouldn’t stop moving unless you literally kneecapped him which just makes it worse honestly, he was already close to endgame tier in terms of physique. what he lacked wasn’t power, but willpower
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Mar 5, 2022 04:40
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No matter who wins it's still going to somehow feel like only a Pyrric victory .
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Mar 5, 2022 04:50
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Im just hoping Deku does not do a Shiggy was always a cool guy crap.
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Mar 5, 2022 05:15
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Shindragon posted:Im just hoping Deku does not do a Shiggy was always a cool guy crap. Feels like Deku has already established that he thinks what Shiggy has done can never be forgiven, but he also sees him as another victim of All For One that he wants to 'save' somehow.
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Mar 5, 2022 05:21
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RareAcumen posted:No matter who wins it's still going to somehow feel like only a Pyrric victory . So you're saying the final battle will be Deku defeating Momo.
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Mar 5, 2022 06:00
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The Bee posted:So you're saying the final battle will be Deku defeating Momo. No, that'd be ridiculous. I'm saying that hero or villain, whoever wins they won't feel like they've really won at the end.
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Mar 5, 2022 06:31
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Rhonne posted:Feels like Deku has already established that he thinks what Shiggy has done can never be forgiven, but he also sees him as another victim of All For One that he wants to 'save' somehow. Muscular really was the coolest guy
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Mar 5, 2022 06:49
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Gentle really was the coolest guy.
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Mar 5, 2022 06:57
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Waffleman_ posted:Gentle really was the coolest guy. I thought we were talking unironically?
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Mar 5, 2022 07:05
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Gentle was fairly cool. Man, remember when this manga was good?
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Mar 5, 2022 07:06
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Brandfarlig posted:Gentle was fairly cool. Man, remember when this manga was good? It's a lot more enjoyable when you can binge-read an arc in one siting instead of basically reading one page of a story a week It's. Like. Reading. These. Kinds. Of. Forum. Posts. where it feels unnatural due to the abrupt starts and stops
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Vinylshadow posted:It's a lot more enjoyable when you can binge-read an arc in one siting instead of basically reading one page of a story a week The general expectation of manga is that they're enjoyable to read both on a chapter a week basis with solid cliffhangers to engage the reader, and on a binge-read arc basis. I'm not too sure saying that a manga is far more enjoyable to read one way than another constitutes a defense so much as an admission that the manga is failing in at least one area.
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Mar 5, 2022 16:23
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Just watched the first movie with a roommate. Did All Might just murder those two dudes in the helicopter? Also did I miss it or did they never actually name the villian?
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Mar 5, 2022 16:35
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Electric Phantasm posted:Just watched the first movie with a roommate. Did All Might just murder those two dudes in the helicopter? Also did I miss it or did they never actually name the villian? Wolfram was his name.
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Mar 5, 2022 18:40
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Electric Phantasm posted:Just watched the first movie with a roommate. Did All Might just murder those two dudes in the helicopter? Also did I miss it or did they never actually name the villian? I think there's a really quick, blink and you miss it shot of the two dudes alive(but badly injured) at some point after the crash.
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Mar 5, 2022 18:50
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MonsterEnvy posted:Wolfram was his name. Thanks Rhonne posted:I think there's a really quick, blink and you miss it shot of the two dudes alive(but badly injured) at some point after the crash. Missed opportunity to not bring back this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4ghsv04V0
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Mar 5, 2022 19:05
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Official https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1012871 https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/my-hero-academia-chapter-346/chapter/24112?action=read 
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I sure love it when characters with limitless, undefined capabilities pull new powers out of their rear end without warning.
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Mar 6, 2022 17:44
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So did they make a second flying fortress for All For One Prime?
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Mar 6, 2022 18:06
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oh jay posted:So did they make a second flying fortress for All For One Prime? That's what the All Might Robot is for
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Mar 6, 2022 18:36
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Rhonne posted:Too be fair, that could also just be a fan translation thing loving love that in the official translation what changed is Denki saying they'll put shiggy behind bars. And now Jeanist is calling this his tomb TheHan fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 6, 2022 |
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TheHan posted:loving love that in the official translation what changed is Denki saying they'll put shiggy behind bars. And now Jeanist is calling this his tomb  Look, a tomb is a kind of prison if you really think about it.
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One's a kid who's still naive about things, the other knows there's no prison that could hold him. What's surprising about that?
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Mar 7, 2022 02:18
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I sure hope Shigaraki dies, if he gets an Orochimaru ending I'll be very upset
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Mar 7, 2022 18:42
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Eric rewinds him into an awkward looking fetus thing and they get the chance to raise him right.
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Mar 7, 2022 18:48
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Shigiraki gonna comeback as his dog.
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Mar 7, 2022 18:56
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oh jay posted:Eric rewinds him into an awkward looking fetus thing and they get the chance to raise him right. Isn't this literally how the movie (counterproductive spoiling of the title but whatever, it's from like 2005) Sky High ends? I'm honestly worried that'll happen now, lmao
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I can't tell if Shiggy is supposed to be in control of his own actions anymore. He is purportedly some weird mash-up of himself and AFO, but he seems like the same old Shiggy.
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Arist posted:Isn't this literally how the movie (counterproductive spoiling of the title but whatever, it's from like 2005) Sky High ends? I'm honestly worried that'll happen now, lmao It's Fullmetal Alchemist
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Mar 7, 2022 19:05
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's Fullmetal Alchemist Oh right, it was the villain's plan in the other thing.
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Mar 7, 2022 19:07
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not an uncommon plot, Choujin Locke did the same with Locke turning one misunderstood villain into a baby and leaving him to be raised by his sister
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oh jay posted:Eric rewinds him into an awkward looking fetus thing and they get the chance to raise him right. Does this lead to Shiggy pulling a Kimblee on AFO?
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I can't wait for Duncan to play tag with Eric and Soggy.
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