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In my college library there was an actual book filled with academic essays on Harry Potter. Sadly the only thing I remember is someone comparing Harry Potter to Sylvia Plath because a lot of father figures die in both works I guess?
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Mar 5, 2022 20:08
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Violet_Sky posted:In my college library there was an actual book filled with academic essays on Harry Potter. Sadly the only thing I remember is someone comparing Harry Potter to Sylvia Plath because a lot of father figures die in both works I guess? There are probably a fair few courses in lit departments still built around Harry Potter for one reason or another, although the number must be down considerably from its 2012-2015 height.
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Mar 5, 2022 20:14
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By simple virtue of its success it's a work that deserves examination, even if that is just a sort of easy "yeah turns out most of us will happily eat poo poo if it has nice packaging" criticism.
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Mar 5, 2022 20:19
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I AM GRANDO posted:There are probably a fair few courses in lit departments still built around Harry Potter for one reason or another, although the number must be down considerably from its 2012-2015 height. Yeah in 2012-2015 Rowling could do no wrong it seemed. Unless you were a minority asking where the minority characters were in Hogwarts.
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Mar 5, 2022 20:25
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muscles like this! posted:It wouldn't be noticeable except the books do run down what everybody else gets and gives as presents. From Goblet of Fire quote:“Wow, Harry —” He had just opened Harry’s present, a Chudley Cannon hat. “Cool!” He jammed it onto his head, where it clashed Order of the Phoenix quote:“Good haul this year,” he informed Harry through a cloud of paper. “Thanks for the Broom Compass, Half-Blood Prince quote:Nice one, Harry!” said Ron enthusiastically, waving the new pair of Quidditch Keeper’s gloves Harry had given him This is admittedly for Ron's birthday so I guess Harry maybe just didn't get anything for him that Christmas. Or it's just not noted by the narrative because it's completely unimportant and the series is from Harry's very limited POV. I guess it's up to the reader.
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Mar 5, 2022 20:32
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Violet_Sky posted:In my college library there was an actual book filled with academic essays on Harry Potter. Sadly the only thing I remember is someone comparing Harry Potter to Sylvia Plath because a lot of father figures die in both works I guess? If someone told me this I would joke "yeah that makes sense, both works are roughly on the same level intellectually" 
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Mar 5, 2022 20:37
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Tbh I don't think the finer points of Harry's gift giving matter much in the context of the money issues, but the Weasley family's money problems just getting downplayed and solved off screen as the books progressed was definitely a thing. Harry having giant stacks of cartoon gold coins that get ignored is a product of child book logic crumpling under the increasing weight of trying to mature up the story and make them seem more adult, and then later attempts to build an expanded universe of adult stories off of. There was no thought but into it at the time and doing anything besides ignoring it would require to many other challenging thoughts to bother with.
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Mar 5, 2022 20:50
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Violet_Sky posted:In my college library there was an actual book filled with academic essays on Harry Potter. Sadly the only thing I remember is someone comparing Harry Potter to Sylvia Plath because a lot of father figures die in both works I guess? harry’s Quest For A Dad is a longrunning joke on the shrieking shack, which of course culminates in BookDad and the reveal that dad = book = Snape
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Mar 5, 2022 21:09
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Soup du Jour posted:harry’s Quest For A Dad is a longrunning joke on the shrieking shack, which of course culminates in BookDad and the reveal that dad = book = Snape I've been rediscovering the books thanks to them and Harry is a lot more interested in boys than I remember. Harry Potter is Bi, okay.
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Mar 5, 2022 21:46
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It's up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgJazjz9ZsA
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Mar 5, 2022 22:45
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I asked for this.
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Mar 5, 2022 23:28
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A collective 5 hours of video content between Shaun and HBomb this week. A sign of the end times.
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Mar 5, 2022 23:30
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The guy who did the Austin Powers in Mass Effect video did a few bangers recently featuring Mr Bean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWxL2mhPvQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bW-wjC61E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnBcrElblE
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Mar 5, 2022 23:34
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Sarcopenia posted:Are we missing the part where he doesn't even give Christmas presents to anyone? Like not even some random piece of 1p muggle trash for Arthur? Also, this is predicated on him never ever getting a job? Also, "I will probably be employed in a decade, I guess" is not a particularly compelling reason for a twelve year-old orphan to be buying cars for his friends' families.
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Mar 6, 2022 01:24
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I’m 1/3 of the way through the Hbomb video and is there a reason he’s using Darkseed 2 music as background
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Mar 6, 2022 01:37
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Soup du Jour posted:I’m 1/3 of the way through the Hbomb video and is there a reason he’s using Darkseed 2 music as background why not
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Mar 6, 2022 01:39
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Soup du Jour posted:I’m 1/3 of the way through the Hbomb video and is there a reason he’s using Darkseed 2 music as background THIS will explain everything
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Mar 6, 2022 01:48
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Darkseed 2 is more cyberpunk than Cyperpunk is
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Mar 6, 2022 01:57
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Nuns with Guns posted:When people say Rowling went the least interesting or dumbest way with things, they also mean that every other way you could go with a plot point or setting details would also be more interesting to read about. Dramatically, humorously, just in a satisfying narrative for whatever age level you'd expect the books to target. Heck, even take a look at the off the cuff example Shaun came up with to solve the Weasley's money problems and Ron's broken wand in the second book: Harry finding some of Voldmort's wizard treasure in the Chamber of Secrets and using it to pay back the Weasleys and Harry getting Ron a replacement for his broken wand and then Ron deliberately tricking Gilderoy Lockhart by giving him the broken wand instead of his new one both work way better for the narrative from a broad perspective. Also to the folks discussing Harry not giving other people Christmas gifts: I don't think it's mentioned that he gives anyone anything for Christmas in The Chamber of Secrets, which is the one that's relevant to the discussion as Shaun's video only brings Harry's lack of gift giving up for that school year because the Weasley's being in hard financial straights is such a recurring element of that book. Soup du Jour posted:I’m 1/3 of the way through the Hbomb video and is there a reason he’s using Darkseed 2 music as background Oh no! Not the Hall of Death theme again! The only way out of there is death!
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Mar 6, 2022 02:04
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Hardy3potter came out when I was like 3 but I don't think they speciffied if Harry had like,a half million or tens of millions.Soup du Jour posted:I’m 1/3 of the way through the Hbomb video and is there a reason he’s using Darkseed 2 music as background Not the first time he's done it.
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Mar 6, 2022 02:09
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muscles like this! posted:It wouldn't be noticeable except the books do run down what everybody else gets and gives as presents. i completely forgot about this until you mentioned it. with the same breathless yet sterile excitement as dickens describing food, every christmas within harry potter is a grocery list of 30000000 toys and candies
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Mar 6, 2022 02:34
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Acerbatus posted:Hardy3potter came out when I was like 3 but I don't think they speciffied if Harry had like,a half million or tens of millions. She also kind of yoinked the Deathly Hallows symbol from the same source which is pretty funny in retrospect.
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Mar 6, 2022 02:36
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I dunno why you keep bringin that up man, I'm pretty sure the Philosopher's Stone fckin exploded or something. It didn't even belong to Harry in the first place?
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Mar 6, 2022 02:39
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Arquinsiel posted:They specified that he had infinite money because the name of the first book is a concept that "real" alchemists believed existed and if you put in random chunks of metal you got gold and silver out. This is just wrong. People so busy trying to be mad about a children's book they can't even get basic facts right.
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Mar 6, 2022 02:42
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I can literally sense that we're about to get into the Poor Reading Comprehension vs Worse Reading Comprehension: FIGHT! portion of the thread, which at least is still better than talking about RLM
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Mar 6, 2022 02:45
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BrianWilly posted:I dunno why you keep bringin that up man, I'm pretty sure the Philosopher's Stone fckin exploded or something. It didn't even belong to Harry in the first place? It was destroyed off-screen by dumbledore after the climax of the book, therefore eventually killing its immortal owner Nicolas Flamel who we also never saw. even as a kid I was disappointed that for some reason Flamel was set up but never seen, was that another dropped plot thread?
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Mar 6, 2022 02:46
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Nicolas Flamel is a real historical figure who -- according to real historical "legends" ie stuff people made up about him -- did create the actual Philosopher's Stone irl. I dunno if it's a dropped plot point that he never appears; this was the first book so like, who knows what Rowling was thinking. Also, the plots are generally written pretty thin in the first place so that there are a ton of important characters that get mentioned but never appear, so it's just as likely that Rowling simply wanted to reference this historical person (who's a fictional wizard in her world) without ever intending him to be a full character who Harry meets.
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Mar 6, 2022 02:54
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Tiaer posted:It was destroyed off-screen by dumbledore after the climax of the book, therefore eventually killing its immortal owner Nicolas Flamel who we also never saw. even as a kid I was disappointed that for some reason Flamel was set up but never seen, was that another dropped plot thread? He shows up in the second Fantastic Beasts movie for no real reason other than it takes place in an area where he might have been at the time.
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Mar 6, 2022 02:57
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muscles like this! posted:He shows up in the second Fantastic Beasts movie for no real reason other than it takes place in an area where he might have been at the time. at last, my 10-year-old self has closure
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Mar 6, 2022 03:04
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BrianWilly posted:I dunno why you keep bringin that up man, I'm pretty sure the Philosopher's Stone fckin exploded or something. It didn't even belong to Harry in the first place? Of course we also later see a curse that exponentially duplicates treasure to try kill people, and Voldemort has cheated death with horcruxes so it's unclear why anyone would care about the stone at all 
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Mar 6, 2022 03:09
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LanceHunter posted:It would have been cooler if he'd intentionally added one extra second, just to gently caress with the symmetry.  Thanks for still reading this stupid thread, Hbomberguy
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Mar 6, 2022 03:22
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Harry retrieves the stone from the Mirror of Erised at the very end of the book, and it's destroyed in the fight with Voldemort. He has it in his possession for several minutes at most. There's no weird shell game, Hagrid just retrieves the Stone from the vault at the same day Harry visits his.
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Mar 6, 2022 03:25
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Arquinsiel posted:Because he had it for a while due to the weird shell game that Dumbledore plays with the Gringott's vault, Harry's visit to his own vault, and the Mirror of Erised hidden at the end of a really fancy episode of The Crystal Maze with lots of metal to chuck into it. It's explicitly explained why Voldemort still wanted the stone in the exact chapter that first explains horcruxes, but I'll leave that to you to find out when you actually read the books 
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Mar 6, 2022 03:28
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and you'll find out why nobody cares when you read another book
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Mar 6, 2022 03:33
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YggiDee posted:Harry retrieves the stone from the Mirror of Erised at the very end of the book, and it's destroyed in the fight with Voldemort. He has it in his possession for several minutes at most. There's no weird shell game, Hagrid just retrieves the Stone from the vault at the same day Harry visits his. For years I thought the thing Hagrid got from the vault was the Invisibility Cloak. 
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Mar 6, 2022 03:50
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BrianWilly posted:Harry literally never holds the stone until the finale of the book and then it's destroyed. YggiDee posted:Harry retrieves the stone from the Mirror of Erised at the very end of the book, and it's destroyed in the fight with Voldemort. He has it in his possession for several minutes at most. There's no weird shell game, Hagrid just retrieves the Stone from the vault at the same day Harry visits his. Alaois posted:and you'll find out why nobody cares when you read another book
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Mar 6, 2022 04:16
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the reason the money poo poo sucks is, as Shaun pointed out, in the early books Harry was very explicitly written as rather emotionally intelligent and empathetic about money issues coming from his own background and all. I forgot if the 'I'll trade you good candy for your bad sandwich' scene was in the book but in other times for sure in both book and movie versions he very explicitly tries to help Ron and his friends out without overtly being mr big dick swinging 'here's some gold for the poor motherfuckers I hang with'. Then JK fixes that by just kinda making him stop thinking about it.
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Mar 6, 2022 04:22
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I can't believe hbomber dropped a loving Brigand Oaxaca reference that the all time high player count of 22 would get  Bit old now but Tehsnakerer did a video on it for anyone curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMQ2q_nsh8
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Mar 6, 2022 04:45
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Kinda random but seems as good a place as any to ask this. Is Voidburger kinda famous now or something, at least beyond this forum? I was just watching a Phantasmagoria 2 LP I liked and it got me Googling the game and finding out about this Conversations with Curtis thing where the star of the game interviews folks. I'm like "neat." The article says he interviewed his fellow cast of the game and...Voidburger. And I'm just kinda confused. I know she left the forum years ago now, maybe she did something afterward that made this sensible.
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Mar 6, 2022 05:01
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NikkolasKing posted:Kinda random but seems as good a place as any to ask this. She recently got hired at Giantbomb as a video producer/on screen talent. Edit: Well, "recently" as of a couple months ago.
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Mar 6, 2022 05:02
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