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Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019
We now present Ukraines submission for the Eurovision
https://twitter.com/GlobalNewsEU/status/1500539930958876680?t=LjD9NDc901-poFlmjX3Uhw&s=19

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Chalks
Sep 30, 2009

Grouchio posted:

Wait will that mean the Russian Wikipedia will no longer be accessible to the Western world? I use the Russian wiki for a lot of historical research.

That tweet seems to be inaccurate, but I think Wikipedia is hosted in the US regardless of language so it would be more likely to disconnect Russia from Wikipedia entirely

chglcu
May 17, 2007

I'm so bored with the USA.

The_Franz posted:

They already can't get paid with the SWIFT ban.

Ah, I’m not really familiar with how wide ranging the effects of that actually are. Wasn’t sure if there was maybe some alternative for smaller non-institutional type stuff or something.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Grouchio posted:

Wait will that mean the Russian Wikipedia will no longer be accessible to the Western world? I use the Russian wiki for a lot of historical research.

1. That tweet is a bit misleading, the document only applies to Russian government, not private sites

2. Russian Wikipedia is hosted in the US. Even if Russia institutes Chinese-style internet censorship, Russian Wikipedia will likely remain, like Chinese Wikipedia, independent.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Chalks posted:

That tweet seems to be inaccurate, but I think Wikipedia is hosted in the US regardless of language so it would be more likely to disconnect Russia from Wikipedia entirely

Clearly it's a plot driven by Russian encyclopedia oligarchs.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Lmao

The funniest bit is that those are just the losses they were able to get a photo of. I can’t imagine how much badly maintained poo poo has broken down miles from any fighting and had to be abandoned.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

I sorta get a Depeche Mode vibe from this.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

gay picnic defence posted:

Lmao

The funniest bit is that those are just the losses they were able to get a photo of. I can’t imagine how much badly maintained poo poo has broken down miles from any fighting and had to be abandoned.

Photos, and it's just one guy confirming it afaik, so there's more data coming in than he can cover. And he has no access to military Intel on what's going on at the actual frontlines and beyond, just what's within the reach of the public.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Grouchio posted:

Wait will that mean the Russian Wikipedia will no longer be accessible to the Western world? I use the Russian wiki for a lot of historical research.

No. Wikipedia is operated by an American NGO, in all its languages.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

:hmmyes:

Douze Points!

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


chglcu posted:

Ah, I’m not really familiar with how wide ranging the effects of that actually are. Wasn’t sure if there was maybe some alternative for smaller non-institutional type stuff or something.

Right now the options are pretty much crypto. The major legitimate options are all shut down.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Palace Square, St Petersburg, preventing a Tiananmen. The Russians do listen to history!

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500578228179775495?cxt=HHwWjsC5hdf8j9MpAAAA

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"

The_Franz posted:

They already can't get paid with the SWIFT ban.

From what I heard, OnlyFans was able to find a way around it a few days ago and things are working normally for Russian creators, though they're understably concerned about what the future holds.

quote:

"As a global business, OnlyFans stands by our creators and understands that they are not responsible for these heinous acts," the company said in a statement. "After experiencing financial restrictions we have been able to restore account activity for creators in all countries. Their accounts will have full functionalities as long as we continue to have payment methods to support them. We were not terminating or suspending any creator accounts based on the creator’s location, and we are doing everything we can to support our community."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/onlyfans-resumes-service-russia-creators-still-wary-platform-we-didnt-want-war.amp


While researching this, I found this fun article from The Daily Star:

OnlyFans model vows to 'personally have sex' with every Russian soldier who defies Putin
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/onlyfans-model-vows-personally-sex-26344863.amp

She could be busy soon.

William Bear fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Mar 7, 2022

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
One imagines that the “captured” stuff includes a lot of material that has flat tires, stuck in mud, etc.,; is it really realistic that a lot of this stuff is getting mobile under Ukrainian control or is it more likely they just destroy it when they get control?

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord

Shifty Pony posted:

Right now the options are pretty much crypto. The major legitimate options are all shut down.

What benefit of crypto would there be? No one at any store would accept it. If you have the ability to send it places and convert in and out of real money you could just skip the crypto and convert money without crypto

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe

the popes toes posted:

Palace Square, St Petersburg, preventing a Tiananmen. The Russians do listen to history!

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500578228179775495?cxt=HHwWjsC5hdf8j9MpAAAA
Ah yes a perfectly normal thing to do over a limited special operation in Donbass.
:thunk:

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

If anyone had any illusions about how the Russian cops are treating the protestors they arrest (lol if you did) a Russian journalist recorded her own beating and interrogation and released it to western journalists

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1500603273367244804?t=Dpe50OtXpSwjftrZO8XDMQ&s=19

Edit: :nws: for Russian speakers - violence, abusive language
Edit2: "the fifth" is a localization for english/American speakers. The thread explains that the correct Russian reference would be "the 51st"

KitConstantine fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Mar 7, 2022

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




orcane posted:

Ah yes a perfectly normal thing to do over a limited special operation in Donbass.
:thunk:

Weird snark over just a special parking operation.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Signing up to be a Russian soldier

Owling Howl
Jul 17, 2019

Velius posted:

One imagines that the “captured” stuff includes a lot of material that has flat tires, stuck in mud, etc.,; is it really realistic that a lot of this stuff is getting mobile under Ukrainian control or is it more likely they just destroy it when they get control?

It's probably just listed as captured if it's not obviously destroyed and the guy that does the tally has no way of knowing what happens after the picture is taken or video ends.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Conspiratiorist posted:

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1500377046287060994
Elaborating on the air war: those Foxhounds are BVR interceptors, and they weren't part of the initial build-up so the Russians must've brought them up in the last day or two. Further indicates the Ukrainian Air Force may be active and causing air losses at high altitude.

They could have them on drone hunting missions too. My guess is though that they are so short on airframes they are pulling whatever they can in now and at best have fighter escort for the bombing missions at worst strap dumb bombs to the racks and have them carpet bomb. Either way it isn't good for the Russia Air Force.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




KitConstantine posted:

If anyone had any illusions about how the Russian cops are treating the protestors they arrest (lol if you did) a Russian journalist recorded her own beating and interrogation and released it to western journalists


:nws: this for Russian speakers, the language is way beyond pale :whitewater:

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Velius posted:

One imagines that the “captured” stuff includes a lot of material that has flat tires, stuck in mud, etc.,; is it really realistic that a lot of this stuff is getting mobile under Ukrainian control or is it more likely they just destroy it when they get control?

I would be astonished if anything vehicle shaped survives longer than it takes to deny it, but the convoys of recon and VDV vehicles getting ambushed are probably getting ransacked for every piece of ammo and kit the Ukranians can carry off with them.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

by vyelkin

Velius posted:

One imagines that the “captured” stuff includes a lot of material that has flat tires, stuck in mud, etc.,; is it really realistic that a lot of this stuff is getting mobile under Ukrainian control or is it more likely they just destroy it when they get control?

The Ukrainians have shown they have been repairing captured equipment and returning it to the field. A ton of working stuff they just give a slap a quick paint job on it and take it right back into the theater.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




My favourite oblast of Russia, Syria.

https://twitter.com/ilvestoomas/status/1500602398045315075

BoldFace
Feb 28, 2011
I don't think Putin is as afraid of protests as he is about workers going on a strike.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

the popes toes posted:

Palace Square, St Petersburg, preventing a Tiananmen. The Russians do listen to history!

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500578228179775495?cxt=HHwWjsC5hdf8j9MpAAAA

Can’t send tanks to crush a protest if they’re too busy getting owned in Ukraine.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




BoldFace posted:

I don't think Putin is as afraid of protests as he is about workers going on a strike.

Have to agree with this. Striking is perfectly legal, and kind of difficult to poo poo on given the history of the country; which is bound to cause some eye-popping numbers potentially as early as next week.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

William Bear posted:

From what I heard, OnlyFans was able to find a way around it a few days ago and things are working normally for Russian creators.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/onlyfans-resumes-service-russia-creators-still-wary-platform-we-didnt-want-war.amp

Oh, good. It sucks that regular people would have their livelihood cut off because of Putin's hubris. I'm curious as to how they did it though, as the article doesn't give any details. I'd guess they are moving it through an intermediary country like China since they apparently have their own system.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Investors take note:

https://twitter.com/RobinWigg/status/1500059906568826882

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




The_Franz posted:

Oh, good. It sucks that regular people would have their livelihood cut off because of Putin's hubris. I'm curious as to how they did it though, as the article doesn't give any details. I'd guess they are moving it through an intermediary country like China since they apparently have their own system.

Yeah, they likely do. Western financial system is notoriously hostile to anything related to sex already, due to US Evangelicals.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

the popes toes posted:

Palace Square, St Petersburg, preventing a Tiananmen. The Russians do listen to history!

https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/status/1500578228179775495?cxt=HHwWjsC5hdf8j9MpAAAA

Can a sufficiently large and motivated group tip over a truck like they can with a van?

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

BoldFace posted:

I don't think Putin is as afraid of protests as he is about workers going on a strike.

Don't worry, half the country is not gonna have a job soon. Can't strike if you don't work

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

mobby_6kl posted:

Can a sufficiently large and motivated group tip over a truck

Yes, but where will you find a sufficiently large and motivated group of elephants?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




mobby_6kl posted:

Can a sufficiently large and motivated group tip over a truck like they can with a van?

Empty - it depends. Fully loaded? Probably not.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

mobby_6kl posted:

Can a sufficiently large and motivated group tip over a truck like they can with a van?

Not really. And even if they did, it would still block the path to the square.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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Conspiratiorist posted:

Of note is Putin has deployed his own muscle as vanguard to the war (VDV, OMON, Kadyrovtsy), which shows ideological commitment and/or confidence in the operation as it weakens his security within Russia's power structure.

Or desperation as he hopes his most loyal violent types will get it done where the military did not; and these dudes are also dying. A lot of them.

VoltairePunk
Dec 26, 2012

I have become Umlaut, destroyer of words

Doctor Malaver posted:

Watched a well-regarded military analyst today who made the following claims:
- Russia was trying to put pressure on Zelensky to fulfill the Minsk agreement, first by talks.
- Then since September it started preparing for a small-scale intervention.
- They thought Zelensky was weak in terms of popular support, and could be toppled with a swift strike.
- Then Putin misjudged the situation (after practically decades of good calls) and went for a full-scale assault for which the armed forces weren't ready. It's similar to the USSR decisions to get into Afghanistan which was based on assessment that international opposition was weak at that moment.
- Russian air force can't afford sufficient training of pilots so they mostly fly two aircraft missions - get up, bomb something, go back. Instead of massive air superiority operations with dozens of aircraft in the air, refueling etc.
- Russia has some two more weeks until mud slows down advances even more.
- Putin's negotiation position is now weaker than a month ago.

Care to share name? Many thanks

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

ZombieLenin posted:

Or desperation as he hopes his most loyal violent types will get it done where the military did not; and these dudes are also dying. A lot of them.

Getting your most fiercely loyal people to die in droves over a bad decision you made seems unwise.

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Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Conspiratiorist posted:

Of note is Putin has deployed his own muscle as vanguard to the war (VDV, OMON, Kadyrovtsy), which shows ideological commitment and/or confidence in the operation as it weakens his security within Russia's power structure.

The Night Wolves are also out of the country, showing up recently in Serbia to lead a pro-Putin pro-war protest

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