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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Endman posted:

Our government (Aus) has been kicking up the anti-China rhetoric for months now, so we're chomping at the bit for Pacific NATO

POTATO?

South East Asia Treaty Organization

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

That already existed and fell apart in the 60s because all the countries hated each other. Unless :thejoke: and I missed it.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

US UK and Aus could invite more people to AUKUS and add more letters.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Add Fiji and lose Australia, thereby becoming FUKUS.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1500909427016224771

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Tankbuster posted:



They are just like us

this is a free library and those are party members

trust nothing you see, they're laughing because they are reading Xi's secret plan to destroy america

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

HiroProtagonist posted:

they're laughing because they are reading Xi's secret plan to destroy america

"Wait"?

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

The real dengism.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

loving Kuliaks

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

indigi posted:

loving Kuliaks

liquidate the kuliaks

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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i mean what you should do when your enemy decided covid doesn't exist

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

oh so now the libs want to cancel an athlete for actually supporting the troops

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
if things go really bad for Russia in Ukraine, or even more generally, Putin is gonna nuke something and it will escalate to the point that everyone is dead. so I think we should be nice to him

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

"Hodl"

January 6 Survivor
Jan 6, 2022

The
Nelson Mandela
of clapping
dusty old cheeks


( o(

gradenko_2000 posted:

South East Asia Treaty Organization

SEATO-n deez nuts

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Hey so that's the same CBC that reported it as a hâte crime when the Galician Division monument got vandalized

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

HiroProtagonist posted:

this is a free library and those are party members

trust nothing you see, they're laughing because they are reading Xi's secret plan to destroy america

same

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
minor American liberal pundits and some politicians are starting to say China needs to be sanctioned like russia.

Karach
May 23, 2003

no war but class war

Isentropy posted:

Hey so that's the same CBC that reported it as a hâte crime when the Galician Division monument got vandalized

The CBC is completely captive to the Ukrainian nationalist narrative.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

wrong flag

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1501216403625500672

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
lol uh oh

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009


lol thats gonna be a whoopsie-doodle

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Belt & Road is making the West a bit worried:
https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/belt-road-reaching-far-and-wide-in-middle-east/

quote:

Belt & Road reaching far and wide in Middle East
China’s infrastructure scheme is now connected from Iran through Iraq to the eastern Mediterranean with more links to come
by Scott Foster March 7, 2022

“All eyes on Ukraine,” writes a former staff member of a British prime minister in an email. That is understandable, but not to the exclusion of everything else. In particular, Europe should spare a few minutes to consider the expansion of China’s Belt and Road Initiative across the eastern and southern shores of the Mediterranean.

Syria joined the scheme on January 12 with the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding to that effect in Damascus. The Belt and Road is now connected from Iran through Iraq to the eastern Mediterranean.

This opens the way to rebuilding Syria’s infrastructure and economy, and to restoring Syria’s historical role as a crossroads of regional trade.

It also puts China in direct conflict with American sanctions under the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019 (Caesar Act). The Act was named after a person known only as Caesar, who photographed and documented evidence of torture by the government of Bashar al-Assad.

The act was signed by President Trump in 2019 and put into force in 2020. The Biden administration has continued to enforce its provisions, which sanction individuals, corporations and political entities worldwide involved in economic activities deemed to support the Syrian military. These include oil and gas, construction and banking.

The Brookings Institution describes them as “the most wide-ranging US sanctions ever applied against Syria” and notes that the Act “dramatically expands the authority of the US government to sanction … activities that support the Assad regime’s ability to wage war.”

Without regime change, the sanctions would, if effective, prevent the reconstruction of Syria after more than a decade of civil war. But they are not effective, as China is intent on ignoring them and filling the vacuum created by inflexible US policy.

In March 2019, The Atlantic published an article entitled “No One Wants to Help Bashar al-Assad Rebuild Syria.” Quoting American and French diplomats, it was a remarkable but typical piece of self-delusion.

The Syrian port of Latakia is likely to be of particular interest to China. Iran already leases part of it and Russia has a naval base at Tartus a short distance to the south.

With the cost of reconstruction estimated at $250 billion by the United Nations, Chinese construction companies and banks will also have a lot to do in Syria

The port of Tripoli in Lebanon is also a target for Chinese investment, as is the Tripoli Special Economic Zone. Lebanon signed an MOU to join Belt & Road in 2017.

Egypt, which has a “comprehensive strategic partnership” with China, joined Belt & Road in 2016. That was predated by the establishment of the China-Egypt Teda Suez Economic and Trade Cooperation Zone in 2008.

More recently, Chinese companies have been participating in the financing and construction of Egypt’s new administrative capital east of Cairo, the establishment of more industrial facilities near the Suez Canal, the building of railways, and the construction of a container port on the Mediterranean coast.

The goal is to turn Egypt into a manufacturing and distribution hub serving the Middle East, North Africa and Europe. China is the largest user of the Suez Canal and the largest investor in adjacent industrial facilities. More than 1,500 Chinese companies are active in Egypt including manufacturers of textiles, fiberglass, consumer electronics, electric vehicles and components.

As noted in “Greater Eurasia’: Belt & Road expands in Africa” (Asia Times, December 28, 2021), the “comprehensive” in “comprehensive strategic partnership” mis meant to stand for political, economic, technological and cultural cooperation. “Strategic” means important, stable and long-term.

Chinese infrastructure projects in Libya, which date to 2011, have been disrupted by military conflict, but China continues to work for a political settlement that would allow them to resume. China’s interests in Libya are centered on oil and port facilities. Libya joined Belt & Road in 2018.

Tunisia also joined in 2018 and signed an economic and technical cooperation agreement with China in 2021. China has assisted in the construction of sports, cultural, academic and medical facilities, as well as a canal, in Tunisia.
Belt & Road participants in the region. Map: Silk Road Briefing

Algeria, which also has a comprehensive strategic partnership with China, joined Belt & Road in 2018. The two countries are negotiating a five-year plan for cooperation in the areas of trade, investment, infrastructure, energy and mining. Mineral products on the list include iron ore, phosphates, zinc, gold and uranium. Some 1,000 Chinese companies are active in Algeria.

After a long delay, Chinese companies have started work on the Port of El Hamdania, west of Algiers. The country’s first deep-water port will compete with Tangier-Med Port in Morocco and, if all goes according to plan, play a major role in African and Mediterranean trade. In exchange for financing, China reportedly will control the port for 25 years.

On January 5, an MOU was signed for the “Implementation Plan on Jointly Building the Belt and Road Initiative between Morocco and China.” This should lead to Chinese financing of infrastructure projects and facilitate cooperation in industry, energy and technological development.

Morocco joined Belt & Road in 2017. A year before that, the Chinese completed a major bridge construction project in the country. Since then, Chinese entities have participated in some 80 projects around the country. Chinese companies have built factories to supply air conditioners and diecast parts for autos, and invested in other manufacturing, fisheries and telecom.

Governments from Syria to Morocco see Belt & Road as a way to stimulate economic growth and provide jobs for growing populations. China’s rivals see it as a strategic threat.

Japan’s Institute of Developing Economies, a part of the Japan External Trade Organization, proclaims on its website that:

The top African telecom markets for Chinese companies are Algeria, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco and South Africa, comprising 60 percent of China’s total telecom assets on the continent.

Alongside construction, energy and mining, telecommunications is one of the four strategic pillars underpinning China’s economic development and providing the necessary platform from which to challenge theWest for global hegemony.

The Voice of America warns that:

Telecommunications networks funded and built by China are taking over Africa’s cyberspace, a dependence that analysts suggest puts Beijing in a position to exert political influence in some of the continent’s countries.… Huawei is working and partnering with many governments across the continent, and it is those governments that are using quality technology to undermine democratic values.

The Hoover Institution, a conservative think tank at Stanford, warns that:

We should view each of the Chinese port facilities in the Med as a potential Chinese navy base.

The European Think Tanks Groups says:

The perceived need by the EU to rebalance relations with Africa is inexorably linked to the increased competition of interests in the continent, coming especially from China.

The EU is aware of the problem. On February 17 and 18, representatives of the European Union and the African Union agreed to a 150 billion Euro investment plan for Africa.

According to POLITICO EU, a European politics and policy news organization, the plan “lists a series of ambitious projects to improve digital connectivity, build new transport links and accelerate the shift to lower-carbon energy sources. It is all part of the bloc’s Global Gateway strategy — seen as a geostrategic riposte to China’s own Belt and Road initiative.”

But POLITICO EU wonders if it isn’t “too little, too late? One big open question is where the funding for Europe’s ambitions will come from.”

Meanwhile, on January 24, the Jerusalem Post reported that: “Israel and China celebrated 30 years of diplomatic relations by signing a three-year cooperation plan on Monday, even as the US continues to call for Israel to limit Chinese investments in technologies that could pose a security risk.”

The fifth meeting of the China-Israel Joint Committee on Innovation Cooperation, it was attended by senior representatives from Israel’s foreign, science and technology, energy, economy, agriculture, environmental protection, health, culture and sports ministries.

Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid noted that “The Chinese, like the Israelis, are not afraid of new ideas. There is a built-in curiosity at the national level in both of our nations. Give us a new and exciting idea, and we will gather around it, speak about it enthusiastically, [and] immediately check where it comes from and how to improve it.”

Israel, like its Arab neighbors, is steering a course between US hostility to and the economic gains to be had from China. The latter are being pursued, not sacrificed, even though the Chinese and Russian navies held their first joint exercise in the Mediterranean as long ago as 2015.

The new balance of power is already here.

Scott Foster, a graduate of the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, DC, is an analyst with LightStream Research in Tokyo. Follow him on Twitter: @ScottFo83517667

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


tbf it is technically cheating to spend your country's wealth on infrastructure and development instead of really bad war toys

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/839370259551383552?s=20&t=Z-Q_50fXgB0FAyYQTDvZSA

Now that's good tweeting

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

lmao boooooooo

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


the intel was right about russia so i guess iran's gonna strike the US now, just great!! AcK!!!

https://twitter.com/caroljoynt/status/1501329075738136584

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die



The posting gap is widening faster every day

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

MRA CPC of the PRC

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Danann posted:

Belt & Road is making the West a bit worried:

Think tanks: Why are third world countries not receptive to american backstabbing, looting and bombing? Obviously our guns are not big enough yet!

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010


Men hold up half the sky.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

cant believe helping build infrastructure instead of bombing children endears a population to you. there was absolutely no way for us to see this coming

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

There's already a men's day that's more meaningful

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_of_the_Fatherland_Day

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Robo Reagan posted:

cant believe helping build infrastructure instead of bombing children endears a population to you. there was absolutely no way for us to see this coming

imagine the look of sugar daddy's face when they find out their sweet child israel dumps them for china in the near future

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Tom_Fowdy/status/1501506001509367808

Paging Some Guy TT

Some Guy TT please provide context

EDIT:

quote:

Yoon is the nominee for the conservative People Power Party, the current main opposition party, in the 2022 South Korean presidential election.

In July, Yoon advocated for a 120-hour work week while critiquing President Moon's policy of the 52-hour maximum work week.

Yoon advocated deregulating food safety standards because, in his opinion, "poor people should be allowed to eat substandard food for lower prices," citing economist Milton Friedman's 1980 book Free to Choose: A Personal Statement as the inspiration for the idea

In August, Yoon stated that South Korea's recent feminist movement was a significant contributing factor to the issue of the nation's low birth rates.

Later that same week, Yoon claimed during an interview with Busan Ilbo that there was "basically no radiation leak" from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster because "the reactors themselves didn't collapse."

On September 2, 2021, news website Newsverse reported that during his time as prosecutor general, Yoon had allegedly ordered a senior prosecutor and a politician to file politically motivated criminal complains against Democratic Party politicians ahead of the 2020 legislative elections in an attempt to sway the elections.

In October, Yoon made complimentary remarks about former far-right military dictator of South Korea Chun Doo-hwan. The remarks came during a meeting with People Power Party officials in Busan, during which Yoon said that "many people still consider Chun as having done well in politics, except the military coup and the Gwangju Uprising," later adding that he believed even people in Honam, the geographic area including Gwangju, felt the same way.[48] Chun Doo-hwan, a widely maligned figure in South Korea, was responsible for numerous human rights abuses, including the torture and killings of innocent civilians. Yoon apologized for these remarks.[49] However, shortly after his apology Yoon posted a picture on his Instagram account in which he fed an apple to his dog; as the words for "apple" and "apology" are homographs in Korean ("사과"), this was interpreted as a mocking statement on his own previous apology.[50] The remarks about Chun, as well as the Instagram post, were criticized by all three of the remaining candidates in the People Power Party primaries.[50] Yoon again apologized for his remarks when he visited the May 18th National Cemetery in Gwangju on November 10, although his visit was met by protesters.[51][52]

Yoon identifies himself as "conservative."[56] A former conservative Assemblyman, Chung Doo-un, has also considered Yoon a conservative.[57] Political commentator Chin Jung-kwon, who supports Yoon, called his political inclination "libertarianism."[58][59]

Critics of Yoon have described him as a right-wing populist. Sim Sang-jung, 2017 and 2022 presidential candidate of the left-wing Justice Party, has described the PPP led by Yoon as "far-right populism."[60] Kim Dong-yeon, a former finance minister and independent 2022 presidential candidate who models himself on centrist French President Emmanuel Macron, has also described Yoon as "populist."[61][62] Yoon rejects the populist label, and has called his main opponent in the 2022 election, Democratic Party candidate Lee Jae-myung, a "populist."[63]

Yoon opposes economic interventionism by the government. He has cited economist Milton Friedman and Friedman's 1980 book Free to Choose: A Personal Statement as a major influence on his belief in economic liberalism.[64]

On September 22, 2021, Yoon stated that he will demand that the United States redeploy tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea.[65]

On November 7, 2021, Yoon stated that if elected president he would pardon former presidents Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye, both of whom were serving lengthy prison sentences for corruption (Park Geun-hye was later pardoned by President Moon Jae-in on December 24 of that same year).[68][69]

On November 12, 2021, Yoon indicated that he would be open to more US Thaad missile deployments in South Korea.[70]

On November 30, 2021, Yoon said he would abolish the 52-hour workweek and the minimum wage if he became president.[71]

On January 7, 2022, he wrote on his Facebook page, "Abolish the Ministry of Women and Family". The post received a good response from Idaenam, while feminist organizations criticized it as "hate politics".[72][73]

:rubby:

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 11:37 on Mar 9, 2022

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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gradenko_2000 posted:

Yoon opposes economic interventionism by the government. He has cited economist Milton Friedman and Friedman's 1980 book Free to Choose: A Personal Statement as a major influence on his belief in economic liberalism.[64]

On September 22, 2021, Yoon stated that he will demand that the United States redeploy tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea.[65]

On November 7, 2021, Yoon stated that if elected president he would pardon former presidents Lee Myung-bak and Park Geun-hye, both of whom were serving lengthy prison sentences for corruption (Park Geun-hye was later pardoned by President Moon Jae-in on December 24 of that same year).[68][69]

On November 12, 2021, Yoon indicated that he would be open to more US Thaad missile deployments in South Korea.[70]

On November 30, 2021, Yoon said he would abolish the 52-hour workweek and the minimum wage if he became president.[71]

so, he's a democrat

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Stringent posted:

so, he's a democrat

Yoon Gang

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Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Milton Friedman is responsible for so many of these fuckers

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