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Okay, after trying the cable in both HDMI ports, and trying the regular blu-ray in the player I've determined it's the transfer. There's even the exact same dark flicker at the top of the screen during the crane shot outside of the Overlook, just before the cut to Jack walking through the lobby. Both the blu-ray and the UHD have the same shakiness and jittering, so it's something with the discs and/or transfer. Keep in mind I don't have motion-smoothing on my TV either (and wouldn't turn it on even if I did), so your mileage may vary. It really is just those overhead shots of the car though, everything else looked fantastic. Also testing out the blu-ray helped me appreciate just how much better the UHD is.
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King Vidiot posted:Okay, after trying the cable in both HDMI ports, and trying the regular blu-ray in the player I've determined it's the transfer. There's even the exact same dark flicker at the top of the screen during the crane shot outside of the Overlook, just before the cut to Jack walking through the lobby. Both the blu-ray and the UHD have the same shakiness and jittering, so it's something with the discs and/or transfer. Keep in mind I don't have motion-smoothing on my TV either (and wouldn't turn it on even if I did), so your mileage may vary. A couple of things. First, if you're seeing judder/missing frames in tracking shots like that, it's almost definitely the signal from your player and how your TVs refresh rate interprets that signal (this goes for UHD and BR, so they would both look funky). One thing to check is if your player is set to 24p output for any content shot in 24fps, like most movies. Then, it also matters what TV you have and how it interprets 24p signals. A lot of modern TVs recognize it and automatically adjust the hz so that all judder is eliminated. Older TVs or significantly cheaper TVs don't. That's why motion smoothing might be necessary in some cases, to compensate for overly juddery TVs, thought like I said, this isn't as much of a problem as it used to be. You can look up your model TV on rtings and check the judder section to see how well your tv performs with 24p and 60hz signals. Secondly, that black flicker at the top of the screen in the shots of the Overlook in the intro are actually the blades of the helicopter used to shoot those scenes, and isn't indicative of a transfer frame rate defect, so they'll show up on any transfer that hasn't fully cropped them out.
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That's exactly the info I needed, thanks. My TV is a "budget model" Samsung, and according to a review I just read it has a fixed refresh rate of 60hz, so it can't adjust for a 24fps movie. The player has an Auto 24p setting, either Auto or off, so it's not the player or cable it's the TV. Oh well, still looks nice. I don't really have the money for a brand new TV and I just got the thing last year, so gently caress it I guess? 
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I remember for my UBP-700 I had to disable the Auto 24p setting because it was actually triggering some weird motion smoothing. Opposite problem but annoying nonetheless.
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Criterion flash sale tomorrow (May 8) starting at noon EST, per social media.
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Oh poo poo is it May already and so close to my birthday too. Who is gonna cover for me since I’m broke?
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There were a couple Eclipse sets I had my eye on, and Barnes and Noble rarely has those so I'll probably get the Eclipse sets and leave the rest for the summer B&N sale.
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Is there a reason to get the Criterion Miller's Crossing over the apparently more complete non Criterion blu?
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GrandpaPants posted:Is there a reason to get the Criterion Miller's Crossing over the apparently more complete non Criterion blu? No in fact the Criterion is a slightly inferior version of the movie because there is a funny line that they inexplicably cut.
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you can also get the old version for much cheaper on ebay. I think I paid like $6-$7 shipped.
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GrandpaPants posted:Is there a reason to get the Criterion Miller's Crossing over the apparently more complete non Criterion blu? The extras sound nice, but I can hardly ever find the time to watch those.
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Oh are the extras new for this version of millers crossing? I am all about extras with physical media.
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checkplease posted:Oh are the extras new for this version of millers crossing? I am all about extras with physical media. Yep. Hard-Boiled: The Coen Brothers and Megan Abbott - in this brand new program, Joel and Ethan Coen discuss their love for film noir and its impact on their work with author Megan Abbott. The program was produced for Criterion in 2021. In English, not subtitled. (29 min). The Actors - in this brand new program, Gabriel Byrne and John Turturro recall their experiences during the making of Miller's Crossing and discuss some of the film's unique qualities with Megan Abbott. The program was produced for Criterion in 2021. In English, not subtitled. (33 min). The Music - in this brand new program, composer Carter Burwell and music editor Todd Kasow recall how they became involved with Miller's Crossing and discuss the important role music has in it and how it actually compliments the Coen Brothers' style. The program was produced for Criterion in 2021. In English, not subtitled. (17 min). The Look - in this brand new audio program, director of photography Barry Sonnenfeld discusses the evolution of his career, his professional relationship with the Coen Brothers, and and the unique stylistic appearance of Miller's Crossing, which is apparently his favorite of all the films he has lensed over the years. The program was produced for Criterion in 2021. In English, not subtitled. (16 min). The Design - in this brand new audio program, production designer Dennis Gassner explains how he entered the film business and recalls how he was offered the opportunity to work on Miller's Crossing. There are some particularly interesting comments about the use of color in the film as well. The program was produced for Criterion in 2021. In English, not subtitled. (10 min).
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Touch of Evil 4K landed. The flames after that first explosion look amazing. Great detail. You can see EVERYTHING on the film. Absolutely wild.
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Which cut should I watch first for Touch of Evil? For whatever reason I've never seen it before.
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ultraviolence123 posted:Which cut should I watch first for Touch of Evil? For whatever reason I've never seen it before. I'd go with the 111-minute cut from 1998, as it's an attempt to restore Welles' original cut.
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Yeah, the Reconstructed cut is the only one I’ve seen, and it’s great. I’m excited to watch the other two versions though, finally.
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Sent the UHD player back, but then my Phenomena 4k arrived today. Probably just going to keep it? It's a "limited" release and it's probably never getting a second print.
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King Vidiot posted:Sent the UHD player back, but then my Phenomena 4k arrived today. Probably just going to keep it? It's a "limited" release and it's probably never getting a second print. Plus it has Motorhead, Goblin, and more! Any movie with that is a keeper.
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I already have the previous Synapse blu-ray release to watch, so I may just keep this one in the shrink wrap on my shelf. physical_media_thread.txt
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Gripweed posted:https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1501318095381544962?t=8IIaGlNjtXd2pyTc9qO_pg&s=19 Malignant
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CelticPredator posted:Malignant Hausu
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King Vidiot posted:Sent the UHD player back, but then my Phenomena 4k arrived today. Probably just going to keep it? It's a "limited" release and it's probably never getting a second print. At the very least I'm sure plenty of people will be paying quadruple the retail price of that as soon as they sell out so if you change your mind you can just sell it to some dumb dumb. poo poo you could probably sell that and get what a UHD player costs. CelticPredator posted:Malignant "And that's why the Criterion Collection blocked me on twitter."
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CPL593H posted:"And that's why the Criterion Collection blocked me on twitter." new thread title
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I dunno, other post was right. Hausu is probably crazier than malignant. Or at least at same level. There’s probably some other equally wild films in the collection I’m not thinking of.
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checkplease posted:I dunno, other post was right. Hausu is probably crazier than malignant. Or at least at same level. There’s probably some other equally wild films in the collection I’m not thinking of. I don't think "craziness" is what excludes Malignant from being in the collection. I think it's because it's a mainstream film from a well-regarded studio and production company with one of the most successful mainstream Hollywood directors working today, who also happens to be the most successful Australian filmmaker ever. It's a blockbuster horror film that happened to premier on a streaming service. Stuff like Marriage Story and The Irishman are in there, but mainly because Netflix has openly stated they have zero interest in putting their stuff on physical media, and they're both from well-regarded auteur directors. Hausu is crazier than Malignant, though.
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I am surprised Malignant doesn’t have a 4K physical release yet. Backwards men need to be shown in maximum clarity.
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Gripweed posted:https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1501318095381544962?t=8IIaGlNjtXd2pyTc9qO_pg&s=19 Freddy Got Fingered
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Exclusive to Germany for May 13, but looks like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari will be the first silent film released on UHD. The 2014 4K restoration was sourced from the nitrate camera negative and several original tinted 1920 nitrate prints.
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Oh no the Criterion sale is over guess I won't be blowing $100 on blu-rays again for the seventh time in as many months. Oh darn.
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With stuff like Hausu or Malignant you need some time to pass before Criterion would consider it. It needs to build up it's status as a cult classic, which may never happen if they do sequels and run the thing into the ground(which seems likely).
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Basebf555 posted:With stuff like Hausu or Malignant you need some time to pass before Criterion would consider it. It needs to build up it's status as a cult classic, which may never happen if they do sequels and run the thing into the ground(which seems likely). Godzilla got run into the ground and we still got a boxset of those films - if "All Monsters Attack" can make it into the Criterion Collection, anything can. Have faith, we may yet see a Complete James Wan 16K MegaHD set in a few decades
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dorium posted:Freddy Got Fingered Schizopolis, Being John Malkovich, Tampopo
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gey muckle mowser posted:Godzilla got run into the ground and we still got a boxset of those films - if "All Monsters Attack" can make it into the Criterion Collection, anything can. Have faith, we may yet see a Complete James Wan 16K MegaHD set in a few decades I'm still waiting for a Heisei box. It doesn't have to be Criterion, Arrow or Mill Creek would both be fine. They can even split it into Heisei and Millennium, I'd still buy both of them!
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I decided to sit out this sale. I’ll probably buy some random dumb stuff in the meantime. Kino Lorber has a F/X and F/X 2 double feature that just came out. Transfer isn’t great, and neither is the second film, but I still kind of want it. My parents had taped it off of HBO at some point so it ended up being the first rated R movie I ever watched.
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Sometime before the month is out, I'm picking up Out of the Blue from Severin. Or, published by Severin but I'll probably buy it through Diabolik because I hate Severin's website and their whole... thing... but they release some bangers every now and then. Out of the Blue is so good.
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