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Dabir posted:(ask the Crimean Tatars about that one). e: in 1929 in Ukraine some policies were implemented that set into play a chain of events which eventually led to this awful, awful joke Borrovan fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Mar 9, 2022 12:44
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Random question. I've been going through old tv shows on netflix in the last few weeks. A question for the more northern ukmt members. How is Bradfield distinct from Sheffield? I thought it was supposed to be a a made up city to start with (a cross between Bradford and Sheffield).
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Mar 9, 2022 13:07
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Andrew Neil is not capable of being embarrassed, otherwise he would have imploded and gone supernova years ago. As it is, he will merely grow increasingly large and red.
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Mar 9, 2022 13:19
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Jippa posted:Random question. Bradfield is a civil parish that is next to the city of Sheffield. What's a civil parish? I don't know, English local government is a loving wild mess of layers upon layers. It's a part of Sheffield City Council but is mostly rural, sprawling into the Peak District while also containing some Sheffield suburbs. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Mar 9, 2022 13:26
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forkboy84 posted:What's a civil parish?
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Mar 9, 2022 13:36
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The Vicar of Dibley is unrealistic because the parish council is depicted as far too competent and on the ball.
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Mar 9, 2022 13:40
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Yeah in the show I'm watching they are all part of bradfield police and constantly mention the name. I haven't heard them ever say sheffield. Even if I have never visited a (big) place in england I have generally at least heard it mentioned. This was the first time I've had to actually look it up.
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Mar 9, 2022 13:44
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I used to sometimes show up to parish council meetings when i was a young weird nerd, they mostly seem to spend the time discussing which of their family members to bung some cash to that month & for which excuse
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Mar 9, 2022 13:49
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Jippa posted:Yeah in the show I'm watching they are all part of bradfield police and constantly mention the name. I haven't heard them ever say sheffield. Even if I have never visited a (big) place in england I have generally at least heard it mentioned. This was the first time I've had to actually look it up. OK, yeah, Bradfield in Wire in the Blood is a fictional Yorkshire town. It just so happens that there is an actual Bradfield in Yorkshire (well, the villages of Upper & Lower Bradfield)
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Mar 9, 2022 14:02
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forkboy84 posted:OK, yeah, Bradfield in Wire in the Blood is a fictional Yorkshire town. It just so happens that there is an actual Bradfield in Yorkshire (well, the villages of Upper & Lower Bradfield) Very confusing.
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Mar 9, 2022 14:10
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forkboy84 posted:What's a civil parish? I don't know, English local government is a loving wild mess of layers upon layers. Literally so, if (like me) you need to show the various authorities in an area in a map. At least in my home country I can be certain that any part of the country belongs to a municipality, a province, and the national government and they all neatly fit into each other. Unincorporated land in the US is a fun concept too. e: parish councils seem to exist mostly because nobody had the heart to fire them
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Umbra Dubium posted:The Vicar of Dibley is unrealistic because the parish council is depicted as far too competent and on the ball.
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SixFigureSandwich posted:Literally so, if (like me) you need to show the various authorities in an area in a map. At least in my home country I can be certain that any part of the country belongs to a municipality, a province, and the national government and they all neatly fit into each other. Unincorporated land in the US is a fun concept too. Can say a lot about Scotland but at least since 1994 we've had unitary local authorities. Before that there were 2 layers from 1975, but before 1975 it was the same mish-mash that had been that way since before the Stewarts were on the throne of Scotland, just like down south.
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Jeherrin posted:Agreeing with Campbell always makes me feel very uncomfortable. Cadwalla is the one who went completely off the deep end and blamed every development in UK politics on russian agents
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's baffling because almost all of my Twitter follows are deranged UK lefties and I'm not seeing that at all, I can only assume to him that anyone not calling for instant thermonuclear annihilation is part of Putin's neo Stalinist cyber hordes. I have seen a few people rapidly go down the line of "azov are antisemites/fash, therefore all ukraine is fash for allowing them to exist, ergo nato is fash for arming ukraine, all explained in this 3 hour video made by an obvious shill" with all other factors not seemingly relevant to them- and would apply a very different logic to their support of houthi actions against the house of saud for example the amount it happens is entirely out of proportion to the centrist whining about it, and they don't seem to stray into outright saying the invasion was legit or advocate openly for putin, but they do exist and it's been annoying/disappointing to see among some folk I followed on twitter fall for that poo poo
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Mar 9, 2022 14:31
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That's pretty much one of the older relevant definitions of 'crank', from Thouless' Straight and Crooked Thinking (the same manual that popularized 'thought-terminating cliché').Robert H. Thouless posted:We must not suppose that we have escaped the danger of being imprisoned by our thought-habits merely by giving up our old habits of thought that are much the same as everybody else’s and starting new ones of our own. The unorthodox and unconventional are in just as much danger of finding their minds closed to new truth by the persistence of their old habits of thought as are the orthodox and the conventional. They too have just the same need of being occasionally shaken out of their thought-habits so that they may retain flexibility of mind. A danger which threatens those who have rejected commonly accepted habits of thought is that they form the habit of disbelieving things merely because other people believe them. They then become what are commonly called ‘cranks’. A crank is not an individual free from thought-habits, but one who has formed a system of thought-habits that is likely to be as hampering to him as is the opposite system of accepting all that is commonly believed. It gets mostly applied to conspiracy theorists nowadays because they have perfected it to an artform, thus 'crank magnetism', but it's a far more common phenomenon among those who don't trust the mainstream narrative but lack the means of constructing a valid alternative other than opposition (or find uncritical opposition far more rewarding). And so it's no surprise that the main people publicly complaining about the first group are the centrists who who do trust the mainstream narrative and haven't really questioned it (because it suits them fine).
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Spangly A posted:Cadwalla is the one who went completely off the deep end and blamed every development in UK politics on russian agents Did she expand that thought further than brexit then, because last I paid any attention she was on a many year long streak of brexitposting more or less exclusively.
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Does anyone have any advice on dealing with energy companies and billing? A bit of a weird situation but am at a loss in terms of what to do; this thread usually has some people in the know! A quick summary: -I moved into my house in May 2021, and signed up with Go.To Energy -They went bust in September 2021, I got transferred to Shell -Somehow as part of this transfer, two accounts were created: the electricity account in my name, and the gas account in the previous owner’s name -The electricity was paid by direct debit but the gas account built up unpaid balance, as I didn’t want to pay until my name was on the account -The gas account eventually got changed to my name, and gas supply immediately transferred to the original account that was under my name, and then that old account closed -I was told the unpaid balance on the old gas account would transfer to my correct account, but it wasn’t -Despite the old gas account being closed, I am getting increasingly threatening texts and emails asking me to pay the outstanding balance -Shell customer service are useless; I get told that the balance should transfer over ‘soon’, that the old gas account is closed so I don’t owe anything -I can’t seem to escalate the problem when on the phone; each agent says they won’t transfer me to a supervisor and don’t have a complaints team I can speak to. I’ve logged complaints but they don’t go anywhere -Also apparently the balance I thought I owed has now gone up, for some reason, but no one can provide me evidence of what it’s for I am quite concerned since I am due to remortgage soon, and even if the call centre staff tell me I don’t owe anything, I am worried there is a note on a system somewhere indicating I’m behind on payments, and that a note might be put on my credit file.
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https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/information-consumers/energy-advice-households/making-complaint-about-your-energy-supplier-or-network-operator They must have a complaints process by ofgem rules. If it's been more than 8 weeks you can complain to ofgem.
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Lady Gaza posted:Does anyone have any advice on dealing with energy companies and billing? A bit of a weird situation but am at a loss in terms of what to do; this thread usually has some people in the know! Gather any evidence you have of these conversations/messages etc. for when you do take it further (ofgen) even if it's just a number called / date/time/length of call from your phone. I had big problems with British Gas extremely many moons ago in a different life when I was repeatedly told by call centre staff that they had put notes on my file and when things didn't happen that had been promised, I'd call again and would be told 'no, there are no notes on your file'. Took months and months to sort out. Also, can you get your credit file and see what is on there and if there is anything on there, you can (as far as I know) have a rebuttal put there.
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Tchaikovsky's just been cancelled, he's not recovering from this. https://twitter.com/MusicMagazine/status/1501561340439281671
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Mar 9, 2022 17:58
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This is bad for Jeremy Corbyn impersonators. Also satire dead &c. https://twitter.com/Lubchansky/status/1499036555515678723
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We're really going to need a word to describe fundamentalist anti-US hyper-conservatives who self-identify as 'communists' because of historical geopolitical bullshit, because 'tankie' at least implies some socialist thinking behind it all but half of these terminally online dumbasses don't even bother to pretend they give a poo poo about economics anymore, they just sit there thirsting for loving Ramzan Kadyrov. He'll shoot all the LGBT+s and give all his pals government contracts to extract all the roubles, but ~men will carry my suitcase like the good old days~. Let's not ask what they'd be like once you're in a relationship with them, obviously, religious conservatives are famously very chill and respectful towards their wives and girlfriends and women in general at the structural level. https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1501486261286182912?s=20&t=2NthJKPR0lstIBhT7mLT7g https://twitter.com/SameeraKhan/status/1501491825621749761?s=20&t=GIScV2fw61eBuaGCNzTukA e: I don't actually know whether people like Khan started out decent but then doubled down against the centrist/idpol strawman in their brain so hard it launched them back into reactionary bullshit on the power of their own farts, or whether they were always indistinguishable from the alt-right, but boy is it weird as hell. I do vaguely remember her having some reasonable-ish takes a few years ago, but maybe I am misremembering. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Sure they'll carry your suitcases, but are they alpha enough to carry a printer 2 miles to your house?
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Imagine caring about what these no-rates think, could never be me
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ThomasPaine posted:We're really going to need a word to describe fundamentalist anti-US hyper-conservatives who self-identify as 'communists' because of historical geopolitical bullshit Honestly could just go with nazis because the bolshevism bit is just performative reaction.
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Borrovan posted:No idea, sorry. The solicitors probably have a good assessment though (since they're hoping to keep 25% of it) Thanks for all the extra legal info, I've decided I might as well go ahead. The risk of getting screwed seems fairly low and the desire to stick it to Labour is high.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Imagine caring about what these no-rates think, could never be me I am famously a bit of a masochist when it comes to Twitter dipshits
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A new, and extremely strong, contender in the "How can we make this international tragedy all about us" stakes: https://twitter.com/toddy19/status/1501583567972937733
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That user has me blocked but I assume that they are drawing a comparison between the brave fighters of the Azov battalion and the future growing reactionary movement in Scottish nationalism?
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Mar 9, 2022 18:44
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I think they're saying that Wales was transferred from England to Scotland in the 50s and then unilaterally reclaimed, and that they don't know what the gently caress Odessa is. (tweet says: Can you see it yet? #ScottishIndependence)
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I think tankie is a perfectly fine descriptor because I think at the point you're thirsting for the tanks to crush the revolutionaries you're already well past any real commitment to anything worth calling communism and really just in it for the crushing. And that political wing has been horribly conservative for a long time as well. If there is a difference I would suspect it's more that corporate capitalism has recently decided to try and sell by pandering to various good social causes which means the center right is also now screaming about how corporations are the devil which puts them closer to the anticapitalism flavoured conservatives. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Point taken but we're still talking about very different, if overlapping, socio-economic frameworks here, so it's always useful to be able differentiate them
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Are we? I'm sure you could construct distinct ideological trends that separate "we should have an authoritarian, socially conservative society that upholds what I believe are the ideal interpersonal behaviours based in traditionalists, quasi religious gender roles and conveniently place people like me in charge of others, and where resources are controlled by the right people (the state (who are rich))" and "we should have an authoritarian, socially conservative society that upholds what I believe are the ideal interpersonal behaviours based in traditionalists, quasi religious gender roles and conveniently place people like me in charge of others, and where resources are controlled by the right people (the rich (who control the state))" but I think in practice the desired shape of the immediate world for adherents of both would be quite similar, even if the macroeconomics might differ in some ways. Both are likely to be very predisposed with superficial traditionalist signifiers and want similar immediate power dynamics among their peer groups. And I also think that owing to the lack of large scale systemic change (because capitalism rules all) that's probably where they're going to spend most of their time and energy as well. Hence, why they spend a lot of time whingeing about relationships and other people's sex lives and crusading about bathrooms. That's a battle they think they can win. The macroeconomic goals are so distant as to be irrelevant, but you can certainly make other people miserable in the here and now. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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The Alba Party truly is a land of contrasts. On one hand we have grassroots members drawing weak comparisons to the Ukraine conflict and internal UK politics, and on the other hand potential local election candidates who are also pro-Putin spies.quote:Rekas was previously vice-president of the Zmiana (Change) Party in Poland, a pro-Kremlin outfit that sought a friendly partnership with Putin and condemned western sanctions on Moscow during the 2014 invasion of Crimea. https://twitter.com/bellacaledonia/status/1501634155804778498 keep punching joe fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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Lady Gaza posted:Does anyone have any advice on dealing with energy companies and billing? A bit of a weird situation but am at a loss in terms of what to do; this thread usually has some people in the know! Had an e-mail off Ecotricity this week, where they want to treble my monthly rate. From £100 to £314. Thing being: - They changed their bank details at some point last year, and instead of informing me to change up the direct debit, the emails went to my ex-wife, the former account holder from nearly 5 years previous. She isn't going to tell me poo poo, so after 4 months they decided to take around £600 in one fell swoop. - Got that re-instated the same day, then cue getting passed around to establish exactly what the gently caress they were playing at. I was not impressed. - I finally get a call saying 'yes this was our fault, however you still owe us that money, we've re-calculated from a meter reading'. (Our meter is about 9ft off the ground in the hallway and I can't access it without a great deal of faffing around) - Eventually, we come to terms - I'll pay £175 a month, and it'll run down the debt over time, no interest. They also gave me £50 credit for the screw up. - 2 months ago, I get an angry letter telling me to pay all this off at once (it's still a few hundo on top of monthly bills). Phone again, tell them gently caress you I told you I'm paying £175, you can knock off the angry letters. 'We'll add a note and make sure it doesn't happen again'. - And then we come to this week. I get the email is automated, but why it still thinks I'm paying £100pm shows no-one bothered to update poo poo from last time. This is now 'it's convenient for us that you pay 2x what it should be' and they can get hosed. So, in answer aside from writing, I don't think any of them bother to acknowledge anything. It took 4 phonecalls before I actually got the complaints team with authorisation to credit me and apologise. Plus, there's 2 of us in a 2 bed flat, 1 of which is out 70% of the time, how much gas & electric can we possibly be using? (yes I know prices have gone stupid). Cheers Russia!
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SSE currently have me projected to use 18,000 kwh hours of gas this year. There isn't even 18,000 kwh hours on the meter. They cannot seem to fix this, so every month this year they've put my gas direct debit up to £300 until I get through to the complaints team to get it sorted out. The people in the call center literally cannot fix it as their computer system wont let them put it down below what it thinks is the minimum amount. The complaints team cancel my direct debit and restart it with the correct amount based on my past usage.
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Goldskull posted:Had an e-mail off Ecotricity this week Ecotricity customer service is patchy but Dale Vince is very active on Facebook and will chase stuff up if you complain in a relevant post he's made somewhere. Not an ideal method of getting poo poo done, but might be effective.
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It took me months to get my overpayment refunded when I last switched supplier because they insisted it could only be done by cheque, and they had spelled my name incorrectly so the bank wouldn't process it. Amazing that we can have smart metres that show how much we owe in real time, but getting money out of them still requires physical pieces of paper. My energy supplier is trying to double my direct debit based on the energy used in the last 3 months since I was switched to them, as if the depths of winter is a completely representative sample. Edit: Does this sound typical for all energy companies? "Your electricity rates will change from 20.316p to 27.627p per kWh and your standing charge per day will change from 23.76p to 44.74p. Your gas rates will change from 3.987p to 7.282p per kWh and your standing charge per day will change from 26.11p to 27.22p." Lady Demelza fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Mar 9, 2022 |
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