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Darko
Dec 23, 2004

People are much more dicks to you, the smaller your role is. I could only get cast as a cop, thug, or somehow urban person more often than not as an extra. They typically only want so many brown people to color a scene in movies, and it gets worse the lower you are on the totem pole.

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BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
I don't know what thread to put this in but here's some cool real life comic book movie inventions

Green Goblin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5JQnmD1Yk

Star Wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AymYhmayWz4

Wolverine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4DoCY0cNg

Thor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_8Xhzt5YQI

Iron Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAL6BUl6-rM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VVj55ZfpgA

Batmobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cOZWVi8Gc

BONUS: BAtman gets busted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eABNv_iIhY

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Real big missed opportunity to get Hemsworth to try and lift the hammer.

gregday
May 23, 2003

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1500988394456772610

bushisms.txt
May 26, 2004

Scroll, then. There are other posts than these.



Bat Dick? Would be cool to see a Nightwing movie

Doronin
Nov 22, 2002

Don't be scared
American History X except it's Arkham Asylum.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFcuCZq9k94

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Surely they'll course correct and go light eventually, no? Give us a bright movie with Batman taking on someone fantastical like Clayface.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Why correct the course when the course is working fine?

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Also the trend only really manifests in marketing. The tone of the actual movies is all over the show.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
I keep seeing stuff like Batman Begins described as "dark and gritty" which is very useful as a descriptor because it makes it plain that the person using it has not watched the movie

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

2house2fly posted:

I keep seeing stuff like Batman Begins described as "dark and gritty" which is very useful as a descriptor because it makes it plain that the person using it has not watched the movie

I get your point, but you have to remember that the last Batman movie before that was Batman and Robin. Begins is loving Taxi Driver compared to that.

OrthoTrot
Dec 10, 2006
Its either Trotsky or its Notsky

2house2fly posted:

I keep seeing stuff like Batman Begins described as "dark and gritty" which is very useful as a descriptor because it makes it plain that the person using it has not watched the movie

It's the first batman film set in anything like the recognisably real world at least, and that in itself makes it more "gritty" I guess.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

2house2fly posted:

I keep seeing stuff like Batman Begins described as "dark and gritty" which is very useful as a descriptor because it makes it plain that the person using it has not watched the movie

Batman Begins is… *shudder* …tactical realism Batman movie

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Looking back on it, The Dark Knight trilogy was really Batman as a globetrotting adventure.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?

Gatts posted:

Batman Begins is… *shudder* …tactical realism Batman movie

There's a microwave that doesn't work on humans.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


It would be pretty awesome if in the climax they turned on the thing and Ra's henchman who fit some reason has a new York mob voice goes "Hey boss ya know I been thinking, this things supposed to explode all the water, right? But ain't humans something like 70 percent water?"

Then ra's goes "oh poo poo!" Starts desperately turning a crank to try and stop it And they all explode.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

Dark & Gritty is a fairly vague descriptor and the interpretation of it is normally down to the beholder. To me it's always meant something with "dark" themes and a sort of tangible and textured world with a focus on dirt, grime, decay etc. That's just me though, and others may define it differently, a bit like everyone's definition of the boundaries of certain genres differs. Batman Begins would qualify for me but partially, as suggested above, the contrast to previous versions. It is no more dark and gritty than The Matrix, but the Matrix doesn't have prior lighter versions to define itself against, whereas Batman does. "Dark & Gritty" also gets used as a pejorative, which confuses things, as it is not always clear if someone is just trying to honestly describe a tone, or to dunk on it.

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
'Darkness' refers to the literal brightness of the image (e.g. whether a scene takes place at night), while 'grittiness' is the degree to which the characters are enjoying themselves. Nothing else actually matters.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
DARKNESS

NO PARENTS

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

In the grim darkness of the 21st century there is only Batman

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
We were so worried about Jokerfication we never stopped to think about Batmanification

Actually wasn't that a thing around post TDK, Skyfall even has James Bond flat out be Batman complete with dead parents and his own Alfred

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
I don't think gritty honestly refers to the mood of a piece or how a character is feeling. To me, gritty just means not having a sheen or polish to it. Once, Never Rarely Sometimes Always, and The Dark Knight are all gritty in my mind despite the films containing different tones and being very different genres. Gritty just refers to a lack of Hollywood polish in favor of a world that is if not realistic, has a sense of lived in texture to its own reality.

That's why it is indeed silly in my mind when people call Snyder's work gritty. I get what they mean, but his stuff is like the exact opposite of gritty no matter how jars of pee you put in it.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
It's weird to me how a lot of people seem to be circling back around to kind of half poo poo on the Nolan trilogy. I'll go to bat (heh) for BB and TDK, despite their problems and even with TDKR I still find a lot to like. I re-watched them recently with my kid and thought they held up really well. I think it's better than the Raimi Spider-man trilogy and still more interesting than like 75% of Marvel movies, which I'm burned out on.

I really wish Netflix had held onto their shows and been the ones folding Moon Knight into that little universe. I think DD, JJ s1 and Punisher s1 are my favorite comic book movie anythings from the last decade. Luke Cage had a lot going for it too.

gregday
May 23, 2003

Batman Begins was realistic in the sense of good writing and acting and people with realistic motivations, emotions, and reactions. The plot itself is cockamamie comic book stuff but you look past it because the characters and their drives are compelling. Over time, I think the common perception of the trilogy got mutated into being “realistic” with everything (it wasnt) which then got turned into being “dark and gritty”.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Dark and gritty is how I prefer my coffee.

(If the grind is too fine then it goes right through my press's filter.)

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

live with fruit posted:

Looking back on it, The Dark Knight trilogy was really Batman as a globetrotting adventure.

Watching Batman Begins, Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace, Dark Knight/Inception, Skyfall, and Dark Knight Rises gives an appreciation for how that section of Nolan's filmography and (most of) Daniel Craig Bond interplay with each other.

And then the last two Craigs go into the MCU.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

Chairman Capone posted:


And then the last two Craigs go into the MCU.

At least the Craig Bond mini-franchise was able to end.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Chairman Capone posted:

Watching Batman Begins, Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace, Dark Knight/Inception, Skyfall, and Dark Knight Rises gives an appreciation for how that section of Nolan's filmography and (most of) Daniel Craig Bond interplay with each other.

And then the last two Craigs go into the MCU.

That's not fair. No MCU movie has been as boring as No Time to Die. MCU movies are usually at least trying to be entertaining popcorn flicks, even if they fail. I don't know what the gently caress No Time to Die was trying to do. Some MCU movies have been pointless, plenty have been vapid, big bags of nothing beyond, "look at the funny man shoot the laser!", but none have been as soul crushingly, "oh my god make it end" boring as No Time to Die.

Well, okay, Eternals comes close.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Mar 9, 2022

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

NTTD's biggest fault is wasting Ana De Armas and Jeffrey Wright

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

hiddenriverninja posted:

NTTD's biggest fault is wasting Ana De Armas and Jeffrey Wright

And these are both pretty big faults. I know it's been said to death, but Ana De Armas was a breath of fresh air in that movie, this small needed bright spot, and then 15 minutes later she was gone.

Criminal.

thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 9, 2022

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

No Time to Die was a blast. It was no more “boring” than any Connery Bond flick

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

yeah no time to die rocked

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Man, all this talk about DARKNESS is just making me wonder why we never got a Darkness movie or at least a TV show. They adapted that other comic from Ennis but I thought Darkness was his most popular unique work.

Plus I remember people liking the video game 10 or 15 years ago when Sin City was a hit and superhero movies were starting to take off. The Darkness is like the perfect combo of those two.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



NikkolasKing posted:

Man, all this talk about DARKNESS is just making me wonder why we never got a Darkness movie or at least a TV show. They adapted that other comic from Ennis but I thought Darkness was his most popular unique work.

Plus I remember people liking the video game 10 or 15 years ago when Sin City was a hit and superhero movies were starting to take off. The Darkness is like the perfect combo of those two.

They blew all the budget and audience interest on two separate Witchblade shows.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Mat Cauthon posted:

They blew all the budget and audience interest on two separate Witchblade shows.

Budget maybe, but audience interest would depend on knowing enough about Darkness to connect it to Witchbade.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

CelticPredator posted:

No Time to Die was a blast. It was no more “boring” than any Connery Bond flick

Yea, it was good enough to get me to rewatch all of the Craig movies.

Barry Convex
Sep 1, 2005

Think of the good things, Pim! The good things!

Like Jesus, candy, and crackerjacks! Ice cream and cake and lots o'laffs!
Grandma, Grandpa, and Uncle Joe! Larry, Curly, and brother Moe!
Black Adam, The Flash, and Aquaman 2 delayed, Shazam! 2 moved up

https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1501657313924452352
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1501666826027249667

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

thrawn527 posted:

And these are both pretty big faults. I know it's been said to death, but Ana De Armas was a breath of fresh air in that movie, this small needed bright spot, and then 15 minutes later she was gone.

Criminal.

I skipped No Time to Die mostly because of Knives Out. Because there was just no loving way a Bond film was going to even approach the chemistry/alchemy Craig and De Armas has in that movie.

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Everyone posted:

I skipped No Time to Die mostly because of Knives Out. Because there was just no loving way a Bond film was going to even approach the chemistry/alchemy Craig and De Armas has in that movie.

I think it definitely does, it's just that they basically only show that chemistry for a single setpiece.

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