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Manager Hoyden posted:You can! Just attribute actionable disparity to unactionable concepts to reconcile why good things don't happen. Can't do the good thing until the intentionally vaguely defined concept is solved. Boom, clear concience It's not a clear conscious I want. I want the people I love to be safe and well.
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Heeeyyyy look at mr sunshine and rainbows ovah here
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phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent  (empty headedness). One can be happy about a joke, a news item, event, but the notion of a "happy life" is shorthand for "gave up considering improvements" (mental, physical, emotional, geopolitical, entrepreneurial, artistically, etc.).
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The Personally Held Childishly Jaded and Self-Defeating Opinion thread is over there. ->
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Josef bugman posted:Stuff like this also feels unfair. I wish I could see things how religious people do. Don't worry sweetie. God never gives you more than you can handle. Except cousin Timmy who killed himself but he's in hell now so he doesn't count.
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Mar 10, 2022 01:13
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Being able to handle something is not a guarantee that one will.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent I kind of agree, and I totally understand this viewpoint But I think, Fighting for change, and finding solace in living a happy life where you and your partners are all fighting for change, is a difficult path to take but an option nevertheless
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent I dunno, I’m pretty happy and I’m working to improve
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent Not at all. Happiness is a constant struggle for improvement. Whether you do or not is totally irrelevant.
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Mar 10, 2022 01:35
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Josef bugman posted:Stuff like this also feels unfair. I wish I could see things how religious people do. If you can't be Christ like, just base your life off of Goku's. If everyone did this the world would be better
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent This is literally depression.
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Gaius Marius posted:If you can't be Christ like, just base your life off of Goku's. If everyone did this the world would be better Goku is a bad person and a worse father. Be Piccolo
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PHUO: I'm not like a weird disney person but I think it's really cool how much dedication they put into the dubbed songs. Like we just watched Encanto twice over in two languages to see what this Bruno poo poo is about (also high af) and it's cool. This is We Don't Talk About Bruno switching between 21 dubs, it's nearly seamless. I can only speak for 2.5 of the dubs' lyrics but I hear they're universally well-regarded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqbiF3EBvA
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:PHUO: I'm not like a weird disney person but I think it's really cool how much dedication they put into the dubbed songs. Like we just watched Encanto twice over in two languages to see what this Bruno poo poo is about (also high af) and it's cool. Not songs specifically, but the Finnish dubs suck and don't sound at all like Finnish. I'd bet the same goes for any "small" languages where the dubs have to be OKd by corporate people who don't speak the language. I know a guy who has done a few and he says they're hella hard because you can't speak or sing at all normally, but pay better than loving anime so vOv E: lmao had a listen to "Me ei mainita Brunoo" and got about five seconds in before having to stop. Ee: I guess with songs it's more the horribly lovely translation. 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 04:36 on Mar 10, 2022 |
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Guyver posted:You'd learn plenty but it's worthless. First of all you gotta define what is "worth". PhantomOfTheCopier posted:phuo, there is no "happiness" except complacent Certainly if you look at just human civilization as it is, all the bad poo poo happening, the downward spiral, and see how you can't change it no matter what you do, you can't be happy about it. But you can be happy about smaller things, like I gave and received a good rear end eating yesterday, and am happy about it. It didn't happen accidentally, there was a time in my life I only imagined these things, but through "improvement" it became real. Happiness isn't a state of being it's working for moments where you can achieve it, being there, and then starting the work again.
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doverhog posted:First of all you gotta define what is "worth". No.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Not songs specifically, but the Finnish dubs suck and don't sound at all like Finnish. I'd bet the same goes for any "small" languages where the dubs have to be OKd by corporate people who don't speak the language. Seems like you should have just done some more conquering and enforcing language while you could. Imagine the vibrant finnosphere butchering other people's languages that could be. e: and this is not a dunk I really want to hear what global god king finnish would do to english or russian Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 19:02 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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I mean we conquered most of Asia and a good chunk of Europe back in the day.
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doverhog posted:First of all you gotta define what is "worth". There is no downward spiral if you actually read literally any history. There wouldn't seemingly be a downward spiral if you lived in Yemen or outside of the US/EU, both places that while they have been relatively peaceful, are directly and literally responsible for the rest of the world being the exact loving opposite. Humans have been doing wars since forever, literally at any point before the year 1900 most of Europe and "The West" was on fire and it is actually unusual that humans were not doing wars in Western countries in the late 20th century. The only reason they were not is because they were doing wars in other countries and making life hell there, and if you had been born after certain points of time in, idk, Iraq or Vietnam or anywhere the US/UK has deliberately hosed up for political reasons (which is basically "the entire loving world outside of the US/UK, except for areas in the US it is politically loving up"), you wouldn't have experienced that long time of peace to feel that there is a downward spiral. Experience is relative and the safety you have had comes from the terror and horror of others, continually, over 2000+ years.
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Like idk if you were growing up in Ireland in the late 20th century you would have had regular car and building bombings and shootouts between Irish revolutionaries and British paramilitaries. So right now IS an improvement on before if you still live there. Literally any look at these two lists shows that wars have been Pretty loving Common and that the only reason why Ukraine is a standout is because it's literally just "white people in a western country" being invaded and murdered, instead of some people in places you (the general you), as an American (most likely nationality of reader), has probably never heard of. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars%3A_1945%E2%80%931989#1980%E2%80%931989?wprov=sfla1
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History ended. NATO was irrelevant, liberal democratic capitalism won. Except not. Any of your points about the past when nuclear weapons weren't a factor are irrelevant. Also climate change, which would've been bad anyway but now any measures to combat it are sidelined due to being in literally war time. I do not care that much about the past 2000 years, I care about tomorrow, next year, etc.
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doverhog posted:History ended. NATO was irrelevant, liberal democratic capitalism won. Except not. Any of your points about the past when nuclear weapons weren't a factor are irrelevant. "Death and murder and terror of civilians is irrelevant" Are you a Borg? Also the page I posted has about a hundred wars, mostly started by the US, between the years 1949 and 1989. So that fits in your scale. Again, it's literally the fact that you're a westerner that makes you feel like things have got "worse". The only reason why this war is important to you is because it's white people and you've heard of their country and know where it is in Europe. doverhog posted:Also climate change, which would've been bad anyway but now any measures to combat it are sidelined due to being in literally war time. I do not care that much about the past 2000 years, I care about tomorrow, next year, etc. Uhuh and what measures exactly were going to stop 95% of the producers of climate change -- Exxon, etc. from pumping out hundreds of billions of tons of CO2? Oh right, none of them were. They all focused on individuals and would therefore only stop around 5% of CO2
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doverhog posted:History ended. NATO was irrelevant, liberal democratic capitalism won. Except not. Any of your points about the past when nuclear weapons weren't a factor are irrelevant. Care or not it's intensely stupid to say things are on any more of a downward spiral than they've ever been.
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Captain Monkey posted:Care or not it's intensely stupid to say things are on any more of a downward spiral than they've ever been. No you in fact are stupid. 
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alexandriao posted:Uhuh and what measures exactly were going to stop 95% of the producers of climate change -- Exxon, etc. from pumping out hundreds of billions of tons of CO2? Whatever those measures might have been if Ukraine, and Russia, were members of the EU and NATO, are now much worse to non-existent.
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doverhog posted:Whatever those measures might have been if Ukraine, and Russia, were members of the EU and NATO, are now much worse to non-existent. They were done politically to make it seem as if poo poo was being done, but literally nothing was being done of any significance anyway lmao. You can see that by how the number continued to go up and larger than each increment before, despite those measures that theyve been prattling about for the last 5 years.
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Yeah, so you are agreeing with me?
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No, because things aren't actually getting worse. There's literally no downward spiral. The only reason you think there is is because of structural racism
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Mar 12, 2022 21:01
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A civilization that achieves a certain level of technology (nukes) and a certain capacity to affect their own planet (climate change) will almost certainly self destruct, as we are seeing happen now. Racism is bad but climate change or nuclear war are not because of racism.
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Mar 12, 2022 21:11
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doverhog posted:A civilization that achieves a certain level of technology (nukes) and a certain capacity to affect their own planet (climate change) will almost certainly self destruct, as we are seeing happen now. Racism is bad but climate change or nuclear war are not because of racism. Based on what? I agree climate change and nuclear war are bad, but there’s literally no evidence at all that society is going to “certainly self destruct”.
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It's just scifi conjecture, about why we don't see intelligent aliens all over the place. It's because civilizations that reach that level of tech self-annihilate. The only data point we have is our own, and it doesn't look good.
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Alternatively the conditions for life are just incredibly improbable and those exact circumstances just never came up anywhere else (or at least in the part of the universe we are able to observe)
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doverhog posted:It's just scifi conjecture, about why we don't see intelligent aliens all over the place. It's because civilizations that reach that level of tech self-annihilate. The only data point we have is our own, and it doesn't look good. It's really stupid because it's built on the assumption that long distance space travel will inevitably cheap and easy, therefore every intelligent species will eventually inevitably be zipping around all over the place. But that is an extremely unsound assumption.
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Gripweed posted:It's really stupid because it's built on the assumption that long distance space travel will inevitably cheap and easy, therefore every intelligent species will eventually inevitably be zipping around all over the place. But that is an extremely unsound assumption. No, because if we assume a species will not self-annihilate, they have a billion years to survey the galaxy. They will transfer their consciousness to self replicating machines and transcend any need for planets. The idea of faster than light spaceships that actually have biological beings inside them is very naive. FTL travel may be impossible, but the ships traveling would not have anything resembling current humans on them. They don't need to be FTL, that's just a scifi writing convention. doverhog has a new favorite as of 22:54 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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doverhog posted:No, because if we assume a species will not self-annihilate, they have a billion years to survey the galaxy. They will transfer their consciousness to self replicating machines and transcend any need for planets. The idea of faster than light spaceships that actually have biological beings inside them is very naive. lmao. Of course no one would actually believe such a silly sci-fi idea. They'd believe a different silly sci-fi idea, an idea that I believe.
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It's just ideas, thoughts, so you believe your thing and I will continue to believe my thing about how any society that can FTL travel or has become interstellar will not have human equivalents inside spaceships.
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doverhog posted:It's just ideas, thoughts, so you believe your thing and I will continue to believe my thing about how any society that can FTL travel or has become interstellar will not have human equivalents inside spaceships. an interstellar society is a silly scifi idea no matter how you figure it
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doverhog posted:No, because if we assume a species will not self-annihilate, they have a billion years to survey the galaxy. They will transfer their consciousness to self replicating machines and transcend any need for planets. The idea of faster than light spaceships that actually have biological beings inside them is very naive. You understand this is just space magic nonsense, right?
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I think people in the West (correctly) feel that something is wrong and try to find something scary out there to justify that feeling. It doesn't matter than this is the safest and most secure place and time ever. The feeling comes from being labor under capitalism and being somewhere on the gradient of exploited populations. A lot of money is spent trying to keep attention off of that fact and keep the aforementioned feeling attributed to some other boogeyman edit: no one will ever be able to transfer their consciousness to anything. If it is ever possible to read a brain, writing that information to anything else will be a copy and the dumbshit who thought he was being uploaded to the matrix will sit there dumbfounded, stuck in his regular old body Manager Hoyden has a new favorite as of 23:37 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Manager Hoyden posted:I think people in the West (correctly) feel that something is wrong and try to find something scary out there to justify that feeling. It doesn't matter than this is the safest and most secure place and time ever. It's this. Dover wants to be the special one screaming doom from the street corner except they back it up with conjecture and broad appeals to the Drake equation instead of the Bible.
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