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AnimeIsTrash posted:Tell her to watch this person instead *squawk* beware the wheelers!
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Mar 10, 2022 19:24
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Endman posted:The anti-nuclear movement, and to a greater extent the shape it takes, in the West is mostly a direct result of Western media reporting on the Chernobyl disaster. It was an incredible media coup to have such a great example of the narrative they'd been trying to reinforce for decades that "everything socialism tries to do turns to garbage, unlike successful, clean, efficient American capitalism Germany's anti-nuclear popular movements predate Chernobyl, the short story is that the boomer hippie student movements in the 60s and 70s were much further removed from the civil rights and Vietnam war stuff that catalyzed american protests so it manifested as a general anti-Cold War (opposition to the US stationing nuclear missiles in their country, go figure) and environmentalism there was a lot of energy in this already and they were protesting construction of new plants as early as 1973 - when Chernobyl happened, it basically proved all these people right, as far as the germans were concerned. I'm guessing there was quite a lot of old money invested into oil and coal pushing this sentiment as well but that's a lot harder to find sources for https://www.cleanenergywire.org/dossiers/history-energiewende quote:The origins of the Energiewende are diverse, but one potent stimulus was West Germany’s powerful movements – known as the New Social Movements (NSM) – that gathered steam across the 1970s in the wake of the late 1960s’ student rebellion.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:28
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Basically, anti-war protests began versus nuclear weapons over time we’re shifted over to nuclear power since it was a less strategic issue. Also, the German Green Party is a protest party sort of how the Lib-Dems are and are about as liberal.
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Mar 10, 2022 19:38
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:turkey buys arms from both the west and russia, don't they? i guess they're basically proposing not buying from russia anymore in exchange for lifting those sanctions it’s kind of weird that a nato member is under sanction by another nato power
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Mar 10, 2022 19:49
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hot witch divorcee posted:I haven't found anything that does a good job of explaining what's going on but I've picked up bits and pieces from when this was first announced and filled in the rest with what we know of kpop stan culture that we're familiar with I like Blackpink Lisa. She seems nice.
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Mar 10, 2022 20:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:I like Blackpink Lisa. She seems nice. I just got off the phone with Obama. the drone is already on its way. any last posts?
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Mar 10, 2022 20:17
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Ardennes posted:Basically, anti-war protests began versus nuclear weapons but over time we’re shifted over to nuclear power since it was a less strategic issue. Also, the German Green Party is sort of a protest party sort of how the Lib-Dems are but are about as liberal. Also it's not a coincidence that a country with big fossil fuel interests suddenly has an anti-nuclear political movement.
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Mar 10, 2022 20:26
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I think the anti-nuclear sentiment has more to do with the ever shifting "oh no THAT disaster doesn't count, and it's 100% impossible for that to ever happen again" attitude among nuclear advocates every loving time there is an accident. No matter what happens it just proves that nuclear is better than ever! It's like talking to a Tesla fanboy, but even more stupid.
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Mar 10, 2022 20:42
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Pryor on Fire posted:I think the anti-nuclear sentiment has more to do with the ever shifting "oh no THAT disaster doesn't count, and it's 100% impossible for that to ever happen again" attitude among nuclear advocates every loving time there is an accident. oh yeah for sure
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Mar 10, 2022 20:43
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Spy fiction taught me that the anti-nuclear movement in West Germany was a soviet plot
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Mar 10, 2022 20:59
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Red and Black posted:Man Moon Jae In really hosed up didn't he. I remember at the height of his peace overtures to the North he had like 80% approval among south Koreans. What a meteoric fall from grace liberalism devours it/s children
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Mar 10, 2022 21:02
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Pryor on Fire posted:I think the anti-nuclear sentiment has more to do with the ever shifting "oh no THAT disaster doesn't count, and it's 100% impossible for that to ever happen again" attitude among nuclear advocates every loving time there is an accident. lmao
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Mar 10, 2022 21:03
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Pryor on Fire posted:I think the anti-nuclear sentiment has more to do with the ever shifting "oh no THAT disaster doesn't count, and it's 100% impossible for that to ever happen again" attitude among nuclear advocates every loving time there is an accident. there’s two incidents at a power plant that could be qualified as a disaster the last 65 years, even broadly and generously defining “disaster” as “loss of human life due to plant operation and/or release of biologically significant radiation or irradiated materials outside of the plant.” one was Chernobyl and one was Tokiamura. the only people who died at Fukushima either drowned or had a heart attack due to overwork even if you want to include prototype reactors the loss of life is still in the teens outside of Chernobyl compare this to around ~100k Americans who die every year due to fossil fuel power plant pollution (all air pollution causes are around 200k). this doesn’t count plant accidents or employee deaths cause those numbers are difficult to find nuclear power is amazingly, unbelievably safer than anything but perhaps solar power
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Mar 10, 2022 21:08
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indigi posted:there’s two incidents at a power plant that could be qualified as a disaster the last 65 years, even broadly and generously defining “disaster” as “loss of human life due to plant operation and/or release of biologically significant radiation or irradiated materials outside of the plant.” one was Chernobyl and one was Tokiamura. how many incidents at uranium mines can be qualified as a disaster
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Mar 10, 2022 21:20
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indigi posted:there’s two incidents at a power plant that could be qualified as a disaster the last 65 years, even broadly and generously defining “disaster” as “loss of human life due to plant operation and/or release of biologically significant radiation or irradiated materials outside of the plant.” one was Chernobyl and one was Tokiamura. i'd rather die to a global hot house event, thank you very much
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Mar 10, 2022 21:26
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Atrocious Joe posted:how many incidents at uranium mines can be qualified as a disaster porbably the same as any other mining operation, it’s not a specific issue with nuclear power
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Mar 10, 2022 21:26
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BULBASAUR posted:i'd rather die to a global hot house event, thank you very much sadly, that is already locked in
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Mar 10, 2022 21:39
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Tell her to watch this person instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1vVdjasQuA
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Mar 10, 2022 21:48
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indigi posted:there’s two incidents at a power plant that could be qualified as a disaster the last 65 years, even broadly and generously defining “disaster” as “loss of human life due to plant operation and/or release of biologically significant radiation or irradiated materials outside of the plant.” one was Chernobyl and one was Tokiamura. The actual statistical probability of losing your life in a nuclear disaster has absolutely no influence on peoples opinions about nuclear power.
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Mar 10, 2022 22:10
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the bitcoin of weed posted:Germany's anti-nuclear popular movements predate Chernobyl, the short story is that the boomer hippie student movements in the 60s and 70s were much further removed from the civil rights and Vietnam war stuff that catalyzed american protests so it manifested as a general anti-Cold War (opposition to the US stationing nuclear missiles in their country, go figure) and environmentalism I might be getting told I’m wrong by multiple posters, but I sure am learning a lot, thank you friends :-)
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Mar 10, 2022 22:20
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no more chernobyls no more fukushimas end nuclear power
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Mar 10, 2022 22:21
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no, paul
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Mar 10, 2022 22:23
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no, more chernobyls
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Mar 10, 2022 22:25
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You see the thing of it is that wind power will kill birds when they fly into thw windmill but with nuclear you have a different situation where the bird flies into the smoke stack and comes out resembling something like the dragons of yore. It's a complicated issue but we can't let these challenges deter us.
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Mar 10, 2022 22:25
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the reason we don't have nuclear power is because it requires direct government investment, control, and oversight and is mostly unprofitable for the private sector. public opinion about
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Mar 10, 2022 23:01
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https://twitter.com/tongfi_kim/status/1501660237329223681
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Mar 10, 2022 23:03
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940quote:Emails also showed that Meta would allow praise of the right-wing Azov battalion, which is normally prohibited, in a change first reported by The Intercept. you can praise the neonazis a little bit, as a treat
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Mar 10, 2022 23:44
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paul_soccer12 posted:no more chernobyls no more fukushimas end nuclear power I wish you'd end... you're posts!!!
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Mar 10, 2022 23:51
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3 posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940 In the context of defending Germany in WW2, those brave boys of the SS were valiantly serving and protecting the Fatherland.
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Mar 10, 2022 23:51
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wasn't park hoping for a coup in 2017
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Mar 10, 2022 23:58
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3 posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940 sick rear end headline lol. normal poo poo
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Mar 11, 2022 00:07
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Atrocious Joe posted:wasn't park hoping for a coup in 2017 yep and the conservatives were already laying the groundwork for claiming this election was rigged if they had lost given that the national intelligence service was caught trying to rig the election in 2012 saying that we have the honor to never claim our enemies rig elections isnt the big own south korean libs think it is
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Mar 11, 2022 00:17
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lol
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Mar 11, 2022 00:19
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https://mobile.twitter.com/GalloVOA/status/1502030997696647182
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Mar 11, 2022 01:29
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Nuclear waste is a bit of an issue as well, at least with older reactors, sick signs from it though so it balances out.
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Mar 11, 2022 01:31
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Mayman10 posted:Nuclear waste is a bit of an issue as well, at least with older reactors, sick signs from it though so it balances out. its only an issue for the poor people communities (often native reservations) the waste is dumped in
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Mar 11, 2022 01:39
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Mayman10 posted:Nuclear waste is a bit of an issue as well, at least with older reactors, sick signs from it though so it balances out. paul_soccer12 posted:its only an issue for the poor people communities (often native reservations) the waste is dumped in it’s an issue but still has an infinitely better track record than burst pipelines, deep water spills, wastewater runoff, all that good poo poo you get with coal and LPG
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Mar 11, 2022 01:48
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Tbh that sounds like a capitalism problem not a nuclear power problem
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Mar 11, 2022 02:25
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3 posted:https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1502036658979495940 https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/10/facebook-violence-russians/ Lmfao quote:One such exception was last year, when the company told Iranian activists that it would allow people to call for the death of the country’s leader, Ali Khamenei. During a two-week period during anti-government protests there, users were allowed to post the words “Death to Khamenei” or feature videos of people saying or chanting this phrase.
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Pryor on Fire posted:I think the anti-nuclear sentiment has more to do with the ever shifting "oh no THAT disaster doesn't count, and it's 100% impossible for that to ever happen again" attitude among nuclear advocates every loving time there is an accident.
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