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inferis
Dec 30, 2003


they produce chemical weapons in different facilities than biological ones. they don’t produce biological and chemical weapons anywhere

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mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

inferis posted:

they produce chemical weapons in different facilities than biological ones. they don’t produce biological and chemical weapons anywhere

ooooohhhh this is the winner so far

nut
Jul 30, 2019

mdemone posted:

:thunk:

okay now which word is the weasel word here.

"does"? "weapons"? "anywhere"?

what about they don't "develop or possess", but they do "develop and possess"

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

Doc Hawkins posted:

they can just lie, it's legal

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

mdemone posted:

:thunk:

okay now which word is the weasel word here.

"does"? "weapons"? "anywhere"?

"labs"

they are, in actuality, "production facilities"

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
the italics indicates when they've got their fingers crossed behind their backs

edit: just read the italics in an extremely sarcastic voice, and it works perfectly

Mola Yam has issued a correction as of 02:10 on Mar 11, 2022

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

mdemone posted:

:thunk:

okay now which word is the weasel word here.

"does"? "weapons"? "anywhere"?

and.

they only do one of the two lol

The NPC
Nov 21, 2010


It's not weaponized, yet.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Texas, the place that wants to start clocking and tracking every vulnerable trans and queer kid, surely not for reasons like this

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
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https://twitter.com/NtlRzr/status/1502102342694494212?t=aqaIQKZpHiWcM-6pTwYwvw&s=19
https://twitter.com/NtlRzr/status/1502103901125984275?t=46ZVbtlQGeapOa8cQFpZag&s=19

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
How was that phone call choosing anyone for the government? It sounds like they're discussing the situation as they set up a photo op or meet and greet, as she tries to get a feel for the next likely candidates, and ranking her options.

I agree that her involvement is problematic for other reasons but this feels like a stretch of logic.

Also the biolabs were Ukrainian, in that America funded them but Ukrainians directed the research. It would be quite something to make your bioweapons right next to the currently invading country.

Especially when an official from your own state department says it's not looking good for east Ukraine unless they can get the different factions in the post coup government to communicate -- y'know cus Russia had already been invading Ukraine.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Wasabi the J posted:

Also the biolabs were Ukrainian, in that America funded them but Ukrainians directed the research. It would be quite something to make your bioweapons right next to the currently invading country.

Especially when an official from your own state department says it's not looking good for east Ukraine unless they can get the different factions in the post coup government to communicate -- y'know cus Russia had already been invading Ukraine.

the biolab program was initiated in 2005, even before Crimea was occupied (and the whole end-of-history thing was still prevalent such that leadership probably didn't think Russia was going to be an "invading country" anymore)

as well, the reason why you put these biolabs in these countries is because they're out-of-sight-out-of-mind, and it's easier to make people disappear in them, but it's also these countries that are on the "imperial periphery", so to speak, which then turns into "why would you put a CIA black site in Poland, Romania, Lithuania???" once the political winds shift in those regions. The same factors that make it appealing to do all your shady poo poo in Eastern Europe, are also the same factors that make it dangerous to do all your shady poo poo in Eastern Europe.

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Was it a bullet?

quoting to find place at some point
https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1502093041603121154
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/10/texas-shelter-sex-trafficking-children/

"[url posted:

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/03/10/texas-shelter-sex-trafficking-children/[/url]" ]
Employees of a Texas-contracted facility meant to care for female foster children who are victims of sex trafficking were discovered to be trafficking the same children, according to a federal judge.

Seven children, ages 11 to 17, were victimized by nine alleged perpetrators, according to discussions held during an emergency court hearing called by U.S. District Judge Janis Jack on Thursday. The children remained in the facility for over a month after the abuse was first reported before they were removed.

The children were sexually and physically abused and suffered from neglectful supervision and medical neglect while at The Refuge, a facility located in Bastrop contracted by the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, a current Refuge employee reported to state authorities on Jan. 24. The court and the court monitors — watchdogs of the foster care system appointed by the judge — were not notified until Thursday.

That employee said a former staff member sold nude photos of two children in the facility’s care, using the proceeds to purchase illegal drugs and alcohol that were then supplied to the children, according to a letter from ​​DFPS filed on Thursday notifying the court about the incident. Local law enforcement and the Texas Department of Public Safety were immediately notified, according to the letter.

“Has the governor seen it?” Jack asked, referring to the letter. No one answered.

In a statement Thursday evening, Gov. Greg Abbott said the Texas Rangers will investigate, arrest and pursue charges against any suspects related to the Refuge allegations.

"The reports of child sex trafficking at The Refuge in Bastrop are abhorrent," Abbott said. "Child abuse of any kind won’t be tolerated in the state of Texas, and we are committed to ensuring these despicable perpetrators are brought to justice and punished to the fullest extent of the law."

The identities of the suspects have not yet been made public.

Rich Richman, DFPS associate commissioner for child protective investigation, told the court the children weren’t immediately removed from the facility because investigators thought the person responsible had been fired.

However, several staff members were found to be allegedly responsible for the abuse of the children, some of whom were not immediately removed. A suspect has been arrested by law enforcement, and DFPS anticipates further arrests will be made.

Between the first report on Jan. 24 and March 4, DFPS received several additional reports about the staff member who was removed from the facility. However, during the investigation, DFPS “discovered several additional staff members still employed at the operation appeared to be involved, and that many of them were related to one another by blood or marriage and/or were cohabiting,” according to the letter. The operation’s residential care director is now believed to have known about the sexual abuse.

DFPS did not remove all of the children until Wednesday, five weeks after the first documented report of sexual abuse. The department sent Child Protective Services staff and off-duty law enforcement to the facility to “ensure the youth’s safety” a day prior. Eight of the nine children who were in The Refuge at the time have been placed with other facilities that specialize in serving victims of commercial sex trafficking, according to the letter. The remaining child refused to be placed in another facility and DFPS is searching for another placement.

“This is just shocking and shameful. Children are being subjected to terrible abuse in state care, and the agencies say nothing,” Paul Yetter, an attorney who represents foster care children in the federal lawsuit, said in a statement Thursday. “Texas is failing its most basic duty: keep these innocent children safe. And we all know who pays the price. Without the vigilance of the court monitors, and the Judge’s jumping into immediate action, who knows what kind of further abuse would be happening.”

Jack, who is overseeing a decade-old lawsuit against Texas over its foster care system, expressed horror over the discovery during Thursday’s hearing.

The judge blasted DFPS for not immediately removing the children when the allegations of abuse were first reported, calling it yet another failure of the system. Numerous bombshell reports have been released by the court-appointed monitors detailing abuse within the system, neglect and even the deaths of children.

Dozens of facilities contracted by Texas have recently closed down or had their license revoked after racking up numerous offenses and subjecting children to dangerous and damaging environments. Child advocates and the judge have repeatedly criticized Texas officials for failing to ensure facilities are safe for kids in the state’s care. From summer 2019 to May 2021, the court monitors discovered that at least 23 children died in Texas' long-term foster care system in shelters and facilities licensed by the state.

DFPS did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The judge instructed the state to provide the court with the identities of the alleged abusers and victims by noon on Friday. She also asked for details on the care the children have received since they were removed

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
Here's Jeffrey Epstein on TV at the swedish eurovision competition in 1985:
https://twitter.com/KarlssonMax/status/1501928415221407750?s=20&t=MUCtWngwY91c8-MaMUsDbQ

He's sitting next to local celebrities Robert Wells and Bert Karlsson, who is just out of frame. If you're not swedish this is probably not that interesting, but I thought I would share anyway.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

gradenko_2000 posted:

the biolab program was initiated in 2005, even before Crimea was occupied (and the whole end-of-history thing was still prevalent such that leadership probably didn't think Russia was going to be an "invading country" anymore)

as well, the reason why you put these biolabs in these countries is because they're out-of-sight-out-of-mind, and it's easier to make people disappear in them, but it's also these countries that are on the "imperial periphery", so to speak, which then turns into "why would you put a CIA black site in Poland, Romania, Lithuania???" once the political winds shift in those regions. The same factors that make it appealing to do all your shady poo poo in Eastern Europe, are also the same factors that make it dangerous to do all your shady poo poo in Eastern Europe.

Man I don't know poo poo about Ukraine in 2005...

quote:

In 2004, Viktor Yanukovych, then prime minister, was declared the winner of the presidential elections, which the Supreme Court of Ukraine later ruled had been largely rigged . The results caused a public outcry in support of the opposition candidate, Viktor Yushchenko, who challenged the outcome... Yushchenko suddenly became gravely ill, and was soon found by multiple independent physician groups to have been poisoned by TCDD dioxin. Yushchenko strongly suspected Russian involvement in his poisoning. All of this eventually resulted in the peaceful Orange Revolution, which brought Yushchenko and Yulia Tymoshenko to power, while casting Yanukovych in opposition.

Hmmm...

quote:

Yanukovych returned to power in 2006 as prime minister in the Alliance of National Unity, until snap elections in September 2007 made Tymoshenko prime minister again. Amid the 2008–09 Ukrainian financial crisis the Ukrainian economy shrank by 15%. Disputes with Russia briefly stopped all gas supplies to Ukraine in 2006 and again in 2009, leading to gas shortages in other countries. Yanukovych was elected President in 2010 with 48% of the vote.

Oh those disputes sound interesting... Like someone was skimming off the top and decided to be really honest with Putin and destroy the economy in the process, but this only affected the National gas company.

quote:

However, in October 2009, another disagreement arose about the amount of gas Ukraine would import from Russia in 2010. Ukraine intended to import less gas in 2010 as a result of reduced industry needs because of its economic recession; however, Gazprom insisted that Ukraine fulfill its contractual obligations and purchase the previously agreed upon quantities of gas.

On 8 June 2010, a Stockholm court of arbitration ruled Naftohaz of Ukraine must return 12.1 billion cubic metres (430 billion cubic feet) of gas to RosUkrEnergo, a Swiss-based company in which Gazprom controls a 50% stake. Russia accused Ukrainian side of diverting gas from pipelines passing through Ukraine in 2009. Several high-ranking Ukrainian officials stated the return "would not be quick".

Russia plans to completely abandon gas supplies to Europe through Ukraine after 2018. Gazprom has already substantially reduced the volumes of gas it transits across Ukraine, and expressed its intention of reducing the level further by means of transit diversification pipelines (Nord Stream, Turkish Stream, etc.).


quote:

RosUkrEnergo's involvement in the Russian-Ukrainian gas trade has been controversial. There are allegations that the company is controlled by Semion Mogilevich and its beneficiaries include strategically placed officials in the Russian and Ukrainian gas industries and governmental structures related to the energy sector. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has made accusations that RosUkrEnergo is owned by a business ally of Ukraine's ex-president, Viktor Yushchenko. The Ukrainian investigation into RosUkrEnergo, during Yulia Tymoshenko's first term as Prime Minister, was closed after she was fired by Yushchenko in September 2005.

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

multistability posted:

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1501908347431399432?t=2DtCwxmHhlKDZfIszncEmw&s=19

In September 2000, a think tank founded by Victoria Nuland's husband Robert Kagan named Project for the New American Century released a policy document entitled 'Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century', which on top of arguing that America needed a "new Pearl Harbour" exactly a year before 9/11, also contained the following passage:

Victoria Nuland is of course the spook who recently admitted to the existence of USA-controlled biolabs in Ukraine, so make of that what you will

Suspended account lol

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT
drat who ran that bank...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Firtash?wprov=sfla1

quote:

Dmytro Vasylovych Firtash (Ukrainian: Дмитро́ Васи́льович Фі́рташ; born 2 May 1965) is a Ukrainian businessman who heads the board of directors of Group DF. He was highly influential during the Yuschenko administration and the Yanukovych administration. As a middleman for the Russian natural gas giant Gazprom and with connections to the Kremlin, Firtash funneled money into the campaigns of pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine. Firtash obtained his position with the agreement of Russian president Vladimir Putin and, according to Firtash, Russian organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich.

drat who is this guy Semion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semion_Mogilevich


quote:

Semion Yudkovich Mogilevich (Ukrainian: Семен Юдкович Могилевич, romanized: Semén Júdkovych Mohylévych [seˈmɛn ˈjudkowɪtʃ moɦɪˈlɛwɪtʃ]; born June 30, 1946) is a Ukrainian-born, Russian organized crime boss. He quickly built a highly structured criminal organization, in the mode of a traditional American mafia family. Indeed, many of the organization's 250 members are his relatives. He is described by agencies in the European Union and United States as the "boss of bosses" of most Russian Mafia syndicates in the world, he is believed to direct a vast criminal empire and is described by the FBI as "the most dangerous mobster in the world." He has been accused by the FBI of "weapons trafficking, contract murders, extortion, drug trafficking, and prostitution on an international scale."

Cached Money
Apr 11, 2010

Syncopated posted:

Here's Jeffrey Epstein on TV at the swedish eurovision competition in 1985:
https://twitter.com/KarlssonMax/status/1501928415221407750?s=20&t=MUCtWngwY91c8-MaMUsDbQ

He's sitting next to local celebrities Robert Wells and Bert Karlsson, who is just out of frame. If you're not swedish this is probably not that interesting, but I thought I would share anyway.

was gonna post this as well, Eva Andersson/Dubin was the host for the show, which is probably why he was there

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

True Detective was 💯 a docuseries.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


time is a flat circle etc.

pancake rabbit
Feb 21, 2011




today's CDAN epstein content

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2022/03/blind-items-revealed-2_11.html

quote:

Blind Items Revealed #2
March 3, 2022

Speaking of the billionaire pedophile, what in the name of anything is the alliterate very high ranking former government official saying? I thought there wasn't any video. Now he says there was and no one went in or out. Huh? Trying to cover up being the last person to see him alive?

Jeffrey Epstein/Bill Barr

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




dang props to bill barr for going so far without knowing how how to read

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

Real hurthling! posted:

dang props to bill barr for going so far without knowing how how to read

r Kelly is the more talented illiterate pedo

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

lol bill barr did not personally show up at the jail to strangle epstein. the murder cop was already in the building they just moved him back over is my guess

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




bill barr baggins

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Real hurthling! posted:

bill barr baggins

Yes Ben we're very proud you came up with that

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
https://twitter.com/kobcritic_/status/1502342915741261825

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I really like her music like oblivion is top tier pop but dang whats her deal

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Epstein-Barr Virus

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

gradenko_2000 posted:

Epstein-Barr Virus

There we go.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

crossposting from the trump thread:

SirPablo posted:

Arizona's major newspaper did a big spread on Nazi Grandma and State Senator Wendy Rogers. Another in a long line of lovely elected officials in the state.

quote:

She relates in her e-book how she helped admit patients at the Alabama state mental hospital in Tuscaloosa for several months and also worked with patients at the mental health unit in Wright-Patterson AFB in Ohio. She's worked in "sex therapy" and has had "in-depth training in hypnosis and the art of suggestion," her book states.

lmao

BasicLich
Oct 22, 2020

A very smart little mouse!

gradenko_2000 posted:

Epstein-Barr Virus

Wasabi the J posted:

There we go.


haha damnit I was formulating this joke just the other day with Alan Dershowitz being the person who contracted the virus that makes rich people pedophiles but this is so much better

I very rarely love being bested so this was a treat

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Mola Yam posted:

i don't know what i'm supposed to take from the biolab stuff

like oh here are all these familiar names linked to something vaguely nefarious again, great, awesome

what does it meeeeannn

It's too early to say. I try to just enjoy the journey and not get too caught up in the details.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008


ffffuck, i'm gonna sew my eyes shut

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010




ok sure why not

next week it'll be taylor swift and edward snowden

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

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Shear Modulus posted:

ok sure why not

next week it'll be taylor swift and edward snowden

Ed has been married to his long-time partner Linsday Mills since 2017.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




gradenko_2000 posted:

Ed has been married to his long-time partner Linsday Mills since 2017.

she defected for him? aww

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



gradenko_2000 posted:

Ed has been married to his long-time partner Linsday Mills since 2017.

what's her intelligence connection

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May 26, 2021

by Fritz the Horse
http://www.childtraffickingorgans.blogspot.com/2022/03/russian-army-in-chernobyl-unbelievable.html?m=1

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