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KitConstantine posted:The Russian ministry of Defense unlocked their Twitter account so now we can see the whole video showing their extremely real logistical support in Ukraine. Yeah, the Russian MOD is pumping out these videos out to desperately try to bring back that RUSSIAN STRONK! image. I saw one thread that had this video of that's claimed to be a joint operation in Ukraine with Mi-28s and Ka-52s, but it's basically 1:30 of marketing/recruitment footage and 8 seconds of actual gunsight combat footage. https://twitter.com/maytham956/status/1501945926822232077?s=20&t=QPZNk1pilsjTKgZlDUDZXg I was trying to find the thread with a bunch of replies that were nothing but shootdown footage and crashed Ka-52s, but I'm guessing the bot or stooge who posted that got embarrassed.
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Omon Ra posted:You understand that it's not just Putin's personal war, right? Most Russians are in favor of it. By most accounts it was pretty much just Putin and a few of his inner circle that decided this. Which makes a lot of sense as anyone who knew anything about the situation knew it would be batshit crazy to do this. If you'd done a poll before the propaganda started for this, "should Russia invade Ukraine?" what do you think the results would of been?
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1501982026467090433 Women’s lingerie is a traditional barter good.
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Deteriorata posted:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44697/ukrainian-tu-141-strizh-missile-like-drone-appears-to-have-crashed-in-croatia Croatian officials have confirmed that two parachutes were found near the crash site.
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TulliusCicero posted:Remember that "NATO Laptop" the Russians found that looked like a child who thought NATO was Rad and had that sticker on it? Chuds love the "killing people" part of war but not the work to get to the killing people part. "Amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics" etc. etc.
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From an economic perspective it's going to be fascinating seeing what a large economy like Russia turns into when it's delinked from the global system, because from my (admittedly limited) knowledge we've only had linkages, like China and others to study. I feel bad for ordinary Russians though.
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BoldFace posted:Croatian officials have confirmed that two parachutes were found near the crash site. How big are they? From that The Drive link, parachutes are part of how those old drones worked. quote:The Tu-141 is a fascinating piece of Soviet-era hardware that Ukraine has upgraded and made useful following the invasion of Crimea in 2014. More of a cruise missile than a traditional drone, the aircraft is rocket-launched from its trailer and flies a predetermined course at transonic speed, collecting various forms of intelligence, before recovering via parachute. It can then be reset and used again.
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Deteriorata posted:Apparently it's a Tu-141 drone that went out of control in Ukraine and just flew west until it ran out of fuel. Tiny machine, set upon by all sides, bravely traverses a warring landscape seeking peace in the West. Here, I've storybooked it. Merch projections look through the roof.
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KitConstantine posted:The Russian ministry of Defense unlocked their Twitter account so now we can see the whole video showing their extremely real logistical support in Ukraine.
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Owling Howl posted:In any case Ukraine should stop parading POWs and no one should put any stock in the statements made by POWs. tbf showing POWs is the only way for their family to find out they're still alive and in Ukraine
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Kaal posted:Women’s lingerie is a traditional barter good. So either hoarding it for selling to people in power later?
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Kaal posted:Women’s lingerie is a traditional barter good. Bras are very complicated to make, so if they aren't being imported anymore they're gonna get really scarce really fast. Bras, even mass produced ones, involve a ton of handwork to finish so anything made local is gonna be orders of magnitude more expensive assuming there's anyone in the drat country with the skill/expertise to do it. Going braless isn't all it's cracked up to be for most women, there's definitely gonna be a hot market for them after new products stop coming in.
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Eric Cantonese posted:https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/status/1501982026467090433 Look, their other entertainment options are likely to be severely curtailed.
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Eric Cantonese posted:So either hoarding it for selling to people in power later? A nice pair of panties for a policeman's wife/girlfriend was a good way to get out of trouble in Soviet days.
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dr_rat posted:By most accounts it was pretty much just Putin and a few of his inner circle that decided this. Which makes a lot of sense as anyone who knew anything about the situation knew it would be batshit crazy to do this. If you'd done a poll before the propaganda started for this, "should Russia invade Ukraine?" what do you think the results would of been? I think it's misguided to imagine that Putin is the whole problem, and if he was suddenly deposed, Russia would no longer be a paranoid state with delusions of grandeur that needs more lebensraum. If there was no Putin, there would be someone else who could easily take advantage of those sentiments in the Russian society. After the annexation of Crimea, Russians cheered in the streets and Putin's approval rating was 80–90%.
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Xerxes17 posted:Relikt has these plastic boards between the ERA blocks that are kept in the bag to maintain spacing/alignment, so this part of their response is mistaken. The bag looks like this because the ERA blocks have been removed. Found a picture that seem to substantiate that:  Guess it doesn't work as good without the blocks in there.
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Omon Ra posted:You understand that it's not just Putin's personal war, right? Most Russians are in favor of it. eh, no they're not really aware of what is being done in their name and they're certainly not aware that they're losing
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Omon Ra posted:Depends on how the question was phrased. CNN did a poll before the war started, and at least 50% said it would be right to use military force to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO or if Russia felt "threatened by foreign activity in former Soviet countries". I'm not disregarding your point, but there is also the propaganda feedback loop where people get shown what the Govt wants them to hear - and in Russia, unless you're young and you know how to get a VPN or something, state propaganda is pervasive. Look how much Fox News directs the narrative and public perception in huge parts of the USA, then ramp that up to 11 and get rid of every other news channel (or, in fact, replace every other news channel with Fox). It's a complicated issue and I don't think there's any easy answers in terms of what average Russians really feel about anything.
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Someone's getting their rear end chewed https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1502124169609240585?t=TQ5leh6RWzfryKYK2POqcQ&s=19 Exploring new avenues to tighten the screws on Russia https://twitter.com/jendeben/status/1502115365018648614?t=5XKEPT1bLs3jZ4_tt6DGqQ&s=19
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Sally Sprodgkin posted:I'm not disregarding your point, but there is also the propaganda feedback loop where people get shown what the Govt wants them to hear - and in Russia, unless you're young and you know how to get a VPN or something, state propaganda is pervasive. Look how much Fox News directs the narrative and public perception in huge parts of the USA, then ramp that up to 11 and get rid of every other news channel (or, in fact, replace every other news channel with Fox). Also people tend to look to their country's politicians and prominent commentators to inform their own politics. They are, after all, ostensibly professionals in the subject.
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Relevant Tangent posted:eh, no It's this exactly. They're being fed lines about how they're Denazifying Ukraine and it's going to be a quick victory and then they'll be liberated as heroes The truth is being whispered but not a lot of people are speaking out because of the consequences. Good on those who do though!
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dr_rat posted:By most accounts it was pretty much just Putin and a few of his inner circle that decided this. Which makes a lot of sense as anyone who knew anything about the situation knew it would be batshit crazy to do this. If you'd done a poll before the propaganda started for this, "should Russia invade Ukraine?" what do you think the results would of been? The reports of 70% Russian approval are probably correct. And many academic studies show sanctions harden support. But that's an aside since sanctions weren't directed at his support. Anyway support breaks down in the stuff I have seen (can't find it now) showing that 55 and older support, and 30 and younger oppose. And the latest polling shows nearly a 40% positive belief in victory in Ukraine. It's not realistic to expect waves of protestors somehow making a difference in Putin's calculations.
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Eric Cantonese posted:So either hoarding it for selling to people in power later? Yep. It’s a luxury good that has real value as either a gift or for use. Lingerie is very transportable and holds its value pretty well in a conflict. You saw a lot of this sort of thing in other wars, such as WWII. KitConstantine posted:Bras are very complicated to make, so if they aren't being imported anymore they're gonna get really scarce really fast. Bras, even mass produced ones, involve a ton of handwork to finish so anything made local is gonna be orders of magnitude more expensive assuming there's anyone in the drat country with the skill/expertise to do it. Yeah it’s certainly true that the value of this sort of thing is going to go up. Bras and panties are essentially consumable, and people can certainly distinguish quality. But on the other hand, Russians will certainly be able to buy this sort of thing from China.
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Kaal posted:Yep. It’s a luxury good that has real value as either a gift or for use. Lingerie is very transportable and holds its value pretty well in a conflict. You saw a lot of this sort of thing in other wars, such as WWII. I figured during wartime it was because silk and nylon all went to parachutes and other military uses. It's funny you talk about quality since many women I know complain about how bad Victoria's Secret bras are. I'm sure Chinese bras don't have much fashion cachet.
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What? https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/...afe07bae8b7%2F0
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A good pair of underwear is definitely one of those little luxuries you don't think about it until you suddenly don't have them any more. And I say that as a man.
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Something really weird is going on... https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1502126095507726337?t=4Vye4SHb59XMA1B4lTswZg&s=19 https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1502110657675554819?t=k_JElwTvuwWAclnjCSxslQ&s=19
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BoldFace posted:From the president of Lithuania: I am curious about this, I was trying to search various news sites but all the results seem fairly negative on Ukraine joining the EU quickly. ...Also I can't imagine Russia would be happy about Georgia joining the EU, either.
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Deteriorata posted:A nice pair of panties for a policeman's wife/girlfriend was a good way to get out of trouble in Soviet days. Probably safer to get them one each.
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Like the article says, must've lost control and somehow ended up in Croatia. Tu-141s are pretty cool. I dig the retrofuturistic look.  Here's one that was shot down in Ukraine and secured by the locals. https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1501241366604656647 https://mobile.twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1501286327521714176
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Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian.  
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KitConstantine posted:Bras are very complicated to make, so if they aren't being imported anymore they're gonna get really scarce really fast. Bras, even mass produced ones, involve a ton of handwork to finish so anything made local is gonna be orders of magnitude more expensive assuming there's anyone in the drat country with the skill/expertise to do it. Just want to throw a +1 on this. I'm cheap as hell and by my standards, even cheap bras are expensive and bras worth wearing are a legitimate luxury item. Even though everybody who has sandbags on their chest needs them, it's difficult to deal with even in ideal circumstances. And, of course, they do wear out. As for the sheer necessity, it loving hurts to do very much if you're braless and, erm, packing a punch. To keep this relevant, it's a bit of a strange exercise to observe Russia right now in that weird flux between capitalist consumer goods and the totalitarian planned economy. I genuinely wonder how all of those abandoned fast food joints will fare. With the information war, the extent of soft power really has my curiosity.
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Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. Thank you 
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Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. This is the best thing
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KitConstantine posted:I've never been in the military, but ceramic plates used for presentation and flowers on tables don't seem very...practical Trotsky's rolling over in his grave.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Like the article says, must've lost control and somehow ended up in Croatia. The tail seems to have what looks to be the Ukrainian trident, but highly stylized? It's kinda cutoff there. Also I think the roundels are supposed to be yellow and blue and not just yellow?
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Deteriorata posted:Another dawn is breaking in Kyiv, and it's still Ukrainian. May there be many more like this one
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