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Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

For once, an Israeli specific story rather than I/P

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1490649541502197762

quote:

The public mood quickly began to change two weeks ago, which is when Calcalist reporter Tomer Ganon began publishing a series of articles detailing how the Israel Police had also used Pegasus against Israeli citizens. These targets ranged from the organizers of the “Balfour protests” against then-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to organized crime gangs, to somebody close to an unspecified political figure.

The police response has evolved over time from blanket denials to admissions that there were cases in which Pegasus was used – but only with a judge’s consent – to accepting that there were cases in which, “by mistake,” they had overstepped their remit.

quote:

The moment Ganon reported that Pegasus had been used in an investigation involving a politician, the media’s pro-Netanyahu wing began speculating – and very swiftly insisting – that the police had used Pegasus in one of his corruption cases.

As prime minister, Netanyahu famously never owned his own cellphone. His close aides, however, were another matter – especially the three who are now serving as state’s witnesses against him in his ongoing trial. All of a sudden, Netanyahu’s legions on social media are embracing the campaign for privacy and calling to defund the police – or at least, the parts of it that investigate corruption.

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/m7mdkurd/status/1491027573715144705?s=20&t=HAjJiA_ZWBvIIk8bdX3tVw
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1491070684038111232?s=20&t=HAjJiA_ZWBvIIk8bdX3tVw
https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1491053104535588867?s=20&t=HAjJiA_ZWBvIIk8bdX3tVw

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Kill all zionists

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/ElParece/status/1488938741112754177?cxt=HHwWgsC-xa754qkpAAAA

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

what is with Israel and harboring Mexican criminals

https://twitter.com/reveal/status/1488531334305705984?s=20&t=hRJSqR2GUJxIUQ3YfNAgYw

quote:

Kate Doyle: The reason it made sense that he would be in Israel is that Tomás Zerón is the person from the previous Mexican government who purchased that spyware, Pegasus, from an Israeli firm. That spyware, Pegasus, was used by Zerón to infect the phones and surveil, not just the five international experts, but their executive secretary, Omar Gómez.

So Zerón already had an established relationship with powerful Israelis. So I called a reporter that I knew from the New York Times named Ronen Bergman, who works primarily on national security and intelligence issues from Israel. And he said he would try to track Zerón down. Within about a week or two, I got a WhatsApp text from Ronen. He asked me if I was online.

And when I said, “Yes,” all of a sudden, a photo appeared on my telephone that was of a guy standing in a very small kitchen, in a T-shirt with a scruffy face and a big goofy grin. And Ronen asked me, “Is this him?” And I really had to stare at this picture for a couple of beats because I’ve ever seen Thomas sit on with a grin on his face like that. But I said, “Yeah, that’s him.” And the photo immediately vanished from my phone. And Ronen said, “He’s here.”

Anayansi Diaz-C…: While Kate was doing her research, Omar and his team filed a formal request with the Israeli government to send Zerón back to Mexico, so he could face charges of forced disappearance, torture and obstruction of justice. That was two years ago. So far, nothing has happened.

https://twitter.com/politicomx/status/1490569765563289600?s=20&t=hRJSqR2GUJxIUQ3YfNAgYw

quote:

#LoMásLeídoPMX | AMLO assured that Tomás Zerón, former head of the Criminal Investigation Agency and who is in exile in Israel, "knows very well what happened in Ayotzinapa."

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

what is it with israel and harbouring pedophiles and sex offenders
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-there-s-a-hole-in-the-system-israel-became-a-haven-for-jewish-sex-offenders-1.7070290

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1491538229497114629?s=19

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/972mag/status/1492796598564364290?s=20&t=7KCmIt0ySeH-oPH3ivqN-w
https://twitter.com/m7mdkurd/status/1492890563967963140?s=20&t=7KCmIt0ySeH-oPH3ivqN-w

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
https://twitter.com/naftalibennett/status/1493248689531494409

Man, brutal dictators love Israel! So weird!

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
I didn't know Israel had their very own Strangelove.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

I didn't know Israel had their very own Strangelove.

You mean like Otto Skorzeny?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


What the gently caress

https://twitter.com/OmarjSakr/status/1492975612558180352?s=20&t=DAMAHbEH-y59WUJoWLTJxg

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

:stare: that's fuckin crazy rear end poo poo wtf

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Could easily be Nazis.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The cover for the book is really something.
https://twitter.com/OmarjSakr/status/1492976923387240450?s=20&t=H4BC1KPfVU_NxZnavwhv7w
e:

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 17:26 on Feb 15, 2022

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/OrenZiv_/status/1492776925642776577?s=20&t=O4WySIpU2lLYWmDqyIvSaw
https://twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1492819154998542340?s=20&t=O4WySIpU2lLYWmDqyIvSaw
https://twitter.com/neeemmzz/status/1493352567316885510?s=20&t=O4WySIpU2lLYWmDqyIvSaw

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


I always get so pissed when people blame the Palestinians for rejecting "peace" deals because the best deal they got ever got still had 80 percent of settlements annexed. The only good faith offer is booting every settler out of every settlement. Some of the most grotesque people alive.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Groovelord Neato posted:

I always get so pissed when people blame the Palestinians for rejecting "peace" deals because the best deal they got ever got still had 80 percent of settlements annexed. The only good faith offer is booting every settler out of every settlement. Some of the most grotesque people alive.

the Israeli state has no right to exist. their weapons need to be confiscated and every piece of their territory should become a UN mandate for 100 years

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
DTI

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao
What if we just started colonizing the colonizers? Would they guzzle upon their own medicine like it's cream soda?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




staticman posted:

What if we just started colonizing the colonizers? Would they guzzle upon their own medicine like it's cream soda?

theyd shoot you probably and american media would pretend it didnt happen or that you were hitler

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


"Progressive" Democrat spewing Trump propaganda because he loves Israel so much

https://twitter.com/RitchieTorres/status/1493955884199948303?s=20&t=RbGDF5w_lMcMEp6HFSRvLg
https://twitter.com/RitchieTorres/status/1493957048731676672?s=20&t=RbGDF5w_lMcMEp6HFSRvLg

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




who the heck puts a t in Richie. madness

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/KhaledAbuqare/status/1496200032781021189?s=20&t=xb_Q_wz9xLyJEF2y8hUBUA

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Lol who gives a fark bitch. We all only care about the ukraine now

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

If that child wanted people to be sad he was brutally murdered he should have had it done a month ago

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sad but true - Metallica

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Algund Eenboom posted:

Lol who gives a fark bitch. We all only care about the ukraine now

https://twitter.com/intifada/status/1496515123984453635?s=20&t=ctXp8Jhj4TUBkUc_PCfG2w

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/Amanykhalefa/status/1498048669941211143

Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish
I'm guessing this is going to be asked in here from time to time, but does anyone have good recommendations for some good political/historical overviews on the conflict? Mostly looking for videos/documentaries I guess, but literature is also welcome. Or even well-structured lecture material.

After reading some Finkelstein and various reports I'm depressingly familiar with the conduct of the Most Moral Army of the World, but what do people recommend as a solid base understanding of history and Israel's founding/colonisation? Have the recently declassified (?) documents about early atrocities led to any interesting new writing or are they just confirming everything non-Zionists have been saying anyway?

Sorry if this is a bit vague, just looking for some solidly researched anchors to keep sane in a sea of uninformed but very confident takes.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Rushputin posted:

I'm guessing this is going to be asked in here from time to time, but does anyone have good recommendations for some good political/historical overviews on the conflict? Mostly looking for videos/documentaries I guess, but literature is also welcome. Or even well-structured lecture material.

After reading some Finkelstein and various reports I'm depressingly familiar with the conduct of the Most Moral Army of the World, but what do people recommend as a solid base understanding of history and Israel's founding/colonisation? Have the recently declassified (?) documents about early atrocities led to any interesting new writing or are they just confirming everything non-Zionists have been saying anyway?

Sorry if this is a bit vague, just looking for some solidly researched anchors to keep sane in a sea of uninformed but very confident takes.

how far back you wanna go? in the mind of the Jewish people this goes back to 66AD and the sacking of jerusalem by emperor Titus lol

Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish

Rutibex posted:

how far back you wanna go? in the mind of the Jewish people this goes back to 66AD and the sacking of jerusalem by emperor Titus lol

I'm seeing more comments like that lately, and honestly, I'm fine with that. Comment sections dominated by mask-off hisrorical fundamentalist nonsense might give pause to some of the liberals who eat up all the most moral army and only democracy poo poo.

But as for the question, I guess mostly focused on 40s onwards as well as going back a bit further re the origins of Zionism?

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

Rutibex posted:

in the mind of the Jewish people

Probably not the best choice of words.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Rushputin posted:

I'm guessing this is going to be asked in here from time to time, but does anyone have good recommendations for some good political/historical overviews on the conflict? Mostly looking for videos/documentaries I guess, but literature is also welcome. Or even well-structured lecture material.

After reading some Finkelstein and various reports I'm depressingly familiar with the conduct of the Most Moral Army of the World, but what do people recommend as a solid base understanding of history and Israel's founding/colonisation? Have the recently declassified (?) documents about early atrocities led to any interesting new writing or are they just confirming everything non-Zionists have been saying anyway?

Sorry if this is a bit vague, just looking for some solidly researched anchors to keep sane in a sea of uninformed but very confident takes.

I really liked A Line in the Sand: Britain, France and the struggle that shaped the Middle East by James Barr. I have a couple more that are still on my to read list but I can't really attest to if they'll fill your needs. I think most have audiobooks.

Apartheid Israel: The Politics of an Analogy - Jon Soske, Sean Jacobs
The Palestinians: From Peasants to Revolutionaries - Rosemary Sayigh
Palestine, Israel and the U.S. Empire - Richard Becker

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Speaker posted:

Probably not the best choice of words.

sorry I meant the zionist colonialist occupiers, not Jewish people in general

Rushputin
Jul 19, 2007
Intense, but quick to finish

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I really liked A Line in the Sand: Britain, France and the struggle that shaped the Middle East by James Barr. I have a couple more that are still on my to read list but I can't really attest to if they'll fill your needs. I think most have audiobooks.

Apartheid Israel: The Politics of an Analogy - Jon Soske, Sean Jacobs
The Palestinians: From Peasants to Revolutionaries - Rosemary Sayigh
Palestine, Israel and the U.S. Empire - Richard Becker

Thanks, I'll keep these in mind.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


https://twitter.com/AGvaryahu/status/1501547465773699074?s=20&t=gpx2a6M7g4Rjq_mBZ8uicA

Marzel once threw a party at Baruch Goldstein's grave.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/11/israels-knesset-passes-law-barring-palestinian-spouses

just a coiled, steaming poo poo of a country

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

"fortification as a Jewish state"

but they' definitely not an apartheid state how dare u

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/theIMEU/status/1504098302744219649

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