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Megillah Gorilla posted:It's easier if you just assume that every single famous person is a piece of poo poo. Literally one of the messages of the show is, "Never meet your heroes."
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Mar 8, 2022 23:02
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Habibi posted:Literally one of the messages of the show is, "Never meet your heroes." Actually I think the message is more like "kill your heroes"
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Mar 8, 2022 23:05
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fortunately most of my heros (marx, mao, lenin and turing) are all dead
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Mar 8, 2022 23:14
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I have bad news about Lenin for you...
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Mar 9, 2022 03:14
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Joe Chill posted:I have bad news about Lenin for you... He's still alive? What the gently caress
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Mar 9, 2022 03:17
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Mar 9, 2022 03:18
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Jebediah Springfield was really brave and fought that bear with just his hands!
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Mar 9, 2022 03:54
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I think I worked out the message Black Noir wrote to Homelander in the final episode. We can do whatever we want
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Mar 9, 2022 05:01
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I mean, we already saw a prehensile penis. Lena Dunham could be The Labia. That said, re:Awkwafina ep. Copromancer? The Shitherder? The Pied Pooper? Dr. Poolittle? The Dung Whisperer?
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Mar 9, 2022 05:10
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Jason Isaacs nailed comics-Butcher, holy poo poo
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Mar 11, 2022 00:35
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It was pretty interesting to see how an adaption closer to Ennis' original vision might've turned out. It also made me really glad we got what we did instead of that. 
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Mar 11, 2022 15:05
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Eh, disagree. It would be a more focused show. Alot more cynical and purient tho.
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Mar 11, 2022 22:03
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You're literally the first person I've ever seen say (or imply I guess) the comic is better than the show - I tried a few issues, and took it as more puerile then prurient. I really love the show we have, but that show would be.... something else.
The Walrus fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Mar 11, 2022 |
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Mar 11, 2022 23:15
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I don't rag on the comics quite as much as most people in the thread. But there's a lot of nonsense and a lot of things that are edgier than they need to be seemingly just for the sake of being edgy. I think the show has been largely successful at identifying what was good about the comics at their core while abandoning or retooling the worst stuff. If I went back through the comics again I could probably find a handful of things I wish had made it into the show or been done differently but on the whole I do think the show is the better version of the story. Just my .02
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Mar 11, 2022 23:22
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I mean just Mother's Milk alone
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Mar 11, 2022 23:22
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Do you think they'll ever do Tek Knight? He's been namechecked a few times.
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Mar 11, 2022 23:31
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Yeah I'm a huge Ennis fan but there's a reason The Boys is no one's favourite Ennis comic. He just doesn't care enough about superheroes to parody them effectively (compare with something like Rifle Brigade, where he's way more invested in the tropes he's sending up) and it gets pretty lazy. If they took the more serious stuff from the comics (eg Vought vs the US government, the Hughie-Annie romance) and combined it with the show's superhero bits, that'd be the best of both worlds imo.
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Mar 11, 2022 23:40
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Clipperton posted:Yeah I'm a huge Ennis fan but there's a reason The Boys is no one's favourite Ennis comic. He just doesn't care enough about superheroes to parody them effectively (compare with something like Rifle Brigade, where he's way more invested in the tropes he's sending up) and it gets pretty lazy. I loved the idea of "What if superheroes were assholes?" IMHO the problem was that Ennis never firmly decided whether to parody existing superhero comics or to create his own world.
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Mar 12, 2022 00:29
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The Walrus posted:You're literally the first person I've ever seen say (or imply I guess) the comic is better than the show - I tried a few issues, and took it as more puerile then prurient. I really love the show we have, but that show would be.... something else. No. The comics are absolutely worse than the TV show. But I found myself really interested in the animated version of it. It's just 1 episode but dunno, it had a cool interesting edge not present in the live action show. And the superheroes being utterly hosed played with an interesting dissonance if you grew up watching justice league
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Mar 12, 2022 01:52
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The comics are hot garbage in so many ways. Ennis even released an eight-issue comic set in the present, and it's incredibly cringey. The first couple of pages are Wee Hughie talking with a burly MTF scot about woke politics with all the subtlety you'd expect from 52 y/o Irish man.
Communist Q fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 02:26
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The point of that scene is that "wokeness" or w/e is a way for cis people to slap themselves on the back for being Allies while conspicuously failing to provide material support to trans people, which seems pretty on point to me
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Mar 12, 2022 03:35
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Clipperton posted:The point of that scene is that "wokeness" or w/e is a way for cis people to slap themselves on the back for being Allies while conspicuously failing to provide material support to trans people, which seems pretty on point to me Wait, you're telling me storm front didn't actually make the world better for women?
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Mar 12, 2022 04:47
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Gynovore posted:I loved the idea of "What if superheroes were assholes?" IMHO the problem was that Ennis never firmly decided whether to parody existing superhero comics or to create his own world. That's the 'problem' with Ennis: he hates comic books as a genre, but loves comic books as a storytelling medium.
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Mar 12, 2022 05:13
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Marsupial Ape posted:That's the 'problem' with Ennis: he hates comic books as a genre, but loves comic books as a storytelling medium. I don't even think he hates superheroes so much, he just finds them juvenile and he doesn't like how they crowd out Proper Comics (ie ones about World War 2). If you want to see someone who absolutely loving loathes superheroes, check out Dan Clowes's PUSSEY!
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Mar 12, 2022 06:32
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Clipperton posted:The point of that scene is that "wokeness" or w/e is a way for cis people to slap themselves on the back for being Allies while conspicuously failing to provide material support to trans people, which seems pretty on point to me it reads more to me like our protagonist hughie claiming his fellow white folk are all victimhood-seekers to his white friend, who immediately proves him right. googling all this leads me to believe that is a character named "Big Bobbi" whose deadname was "Big Bobby," which is a pretty stupid choice for Ennis to make in good faith, but makes sense if he thinks it would be funny that trans women don't understand homophones
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Mar 12, 2022 06:42
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Bobbi chose the name specifically so she could wind up her mates by randomly accusing them of deadnaming her. Which is pretty on par for how Ennis characters behave, especially in The Boys. And I don't think the scene is about "woke" white people claiming victimhood at all, it's about how being conspicuously woke is mostly a matter of paying lip service to things rather than doing them 
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Mar 12, 2022 08:02
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Clipperton posted:I don't even think he hates superheroes so much, he just finds them juvenile and he doesn't like how they crowd out Proper Comics (ie ones about World War 2). The thing is, Ennis finding anything juvenile is a vantablack pot pointing at a slightly scuffed kettle.
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Mar 12, 2022 08:29
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Ennis is a guy who really has an excellent understanding of things like momentum and propulsion so he can keep a story moving and shaking but anyone who valorizes roughnecks and soldiers and Operators to that degree is a massive fuckin tool
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Mar 12, 2022 13:37
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Bust Rodd posted:Ennis is a guy who really has an excellent understanding of things like momentum and propulsion so he can keep a story moving and shaking but anyone who valorizes roughnecks and soldiers and Operators to that degree is a massive fuckin tool He's certainly sympathetic to them but I'd disagree that he "valorizes" them, except to the degree that anyone who makes an action movie "valorizes" violence. An interesting choice he made in that regard was back at the start of Punisher Max, where the CIA asks Frank to work for them killing terrorists (this was right as the War on Terror was getting going). Anyone who only wanted to write two-fisted Ultimate Operator stories would have jumped at that, but Ennis has Frank say "gently caress you...I'm not going to war so Colt can sell another million M16s, I had enough of that in Vietnam". He did a Weird War Stories short ages ago where a bunch of SAS guys were given a choice of taking some drug which would turn them into super-soldiers at the cost of becoming atrocity-committing psychopaths, and they all said yes, which was a pretty savage indictment of the "operator" mindset imo. McSpanky posted:The thing is, Ennis finding anything juvenile is a vantablack pot pointing at a slightly scuffed kettle. Haha fair enough Clipperton fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 15:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTgqUW-NYE Who's the guy at the end escaping from the restraints?
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Mar 12, 2022 19:15
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spacetoaster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTgqUW-NYE Maybe Soldier Boy? Also  the shot of Homelander milking the cow. I kinda wish they didn't spoil that Butcher will be trying compound V or getting powers. Or maybe that's just a dream sequence.Extremely  for season 3.
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Mar 12, 2022 19:34
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Given how the showrunners like to throw curveballs, the only thing I'd fully expect to see in the show from the trailer is The Deep fantasizing about an octopus while hooking up.
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Mar 12, 2022 19:36
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spacetoaster posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTgqUW-NYE Soldier Boy, I think. I know Jensen Ackles had a big beard during some of the filming.
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Mar 12, 2022 19:36
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Captain America was asleep for decades before he popped back up, probably something similar for Soldier Boy.
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Mar 12, 2022 19:46
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Nice to see Homelander's son pop back up, I seriously cannot imagine that guy is okay with the CIA stealing his child
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Mar 12, 2022 20:01
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Oh my god, the Pepsi can protest bit.
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Mar 12, 2022 20:02
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LesterGroans posted:Soldier Boy, I think. I know Jensen Ackles had a big beard during some of the filming. If you pause it, it's Jensen Ackles with a giant beard. Why he was frozen/in suspended animation I don't know, but it it worked for Captain America. Definitely looked like there was some Viet Nam flash backs with him in them. Maybe Vought figured out how to cryogenically freeze people who'd been injected with Compound V, and so they keep him like that unless they need him.
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Mar 12, 2022 20:30
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Compound V is made from Super Soldier Blood!  Though it'd be much better if he was just kept in some holoworld because he had the Pure Uncut V that NaziGirl got and either had WW2/Nam shellshock or was just unstable Shooting Blanks posted:the only thing I'd fully expect to see in the show from the trailer is The Deep fantasizing about an octopus while hooking up.
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Mar 12, 2022 22:50
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FilthyImp posted:Compound V is made from Super Soldier Blood! Quoting james bond should do it. That Octopussy.
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BioEnchanted posted:Quoting james bond should do it. That Octopussy. 
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