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Arrakis might be big enough For both of us *tries whistling through parched lips*
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 06:57 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 07:30 |
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i thought i got this from here but i just checked last couple pages and didn't see it. but either way, you might appreciate it as much as me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHK5fBm1YWk
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 07:21 |
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Jessica going 'Use the Voice' literally over breakfast like she's teaching a little Paul to say 'please' is kind of a hilarious bit. And it demonstrates how she treats it and wants Paul to treat it- to be able and willing to use it casually, because it very much can mean the difference between life and death. Bene Gesserit don't do fair fights.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 12:39 |
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Considering the way the story unfolds, there is no such thing as a fair fight. If you believe there is, you've already lost
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 18:17 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Jessica going 'Use the Voice' literally over breakfast like she's teaching a little Paul to say 'please' is kind of a hilarious bit. And it demonstrates how she treats it and wants Paul to treat it- to be able and willing to use it casually, because it very much can mean the difference between life and death. Bene Gesserit don't do fair fights. Speaking of that breakfast scene when Paul actually used the voice, the way they did the voice made me actually jump in my seat a bit in the theatre. Was way more unsettling and off-putting than Lynch's treatment.
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# ? Mar 1, 2022 19:26 |
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DarkSol posted:Speaking of that breakfast scene when Paul actually used the voice, the way they did the voice made me actually jump in my seat a bit in the theatre. Was way more unsettling and off-putting than Lynch's treatment. I recommended that a friend should watch the IMAX version for this very reason. Sure, huge screen, pretty visuals. But the sound design in this film, the Voice in particular, is really something special.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 00:10 |
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The ornithopter scene is especially good for the Voice. People call the Bene Gesserit witches, but Jessica was positively demonic there. I don't especially like the idea of portraying the Voice as some dramatic scifi sound effect. It's meant to be subtle and insidious. But it worked so well in this film.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 00:58 |
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Jessica's always been my favourite character in the series probably because she's basically Cool Mom Space Witch. She feels like one of the most human characters in the series, probably helps that her own relationships with others and her own agency are majorly important themes that set everything in motion.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 06:46 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The ornithopter scene is especially good for the Voice. People call the Bene Gesserit witches, but Jessica was positively demonic there. I really liked how they showed Paul's point of view when having the Voice used on him by Mohiam. No magic trick, no fancyful illusions, no grand struggle of wills. You're told to do something and you just do it, reflexively, automatically, nearly without even realising that you're doing it. And even fully knowing what is happening, you can't do a drat thing about it.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 14:56 |
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I do like a specific aspect of how Lynch envisioned the Voice. In his treatment, it sounds like it infects the intended recipient, rolling around in their head, which overrides their free will and is a forced compulsion for them "act" upon. But Villeneuve's vision of how people react to the Voice is more forceful, like Perestroika points out.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 16:55 |
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Strom Cuzewon posted:The ornithopter scene is especially good for the Voice. People call the Bene Gesserit witches, but Jessica was positively demonic there. I'm with you that the Voice is thematically better framed as a super subtle thing : I think it'd actually be perfect if it was imperceptible as different except that it hijacks control of you, that'd be be so loving cool. But I don't think that plays in a movie at all. Works great in a book, but in a movie you need some kind of overt signal that something's happening*, so you're basically stuck having some kind of auditory or visual signifier. And then we're basically just talking about art design for the obvious thing (keeping in mind that somehow this story is too subtle for idiots as is). *Well, okay, you could do a whole thing about interpreting the ambiguity of if the the Voice is being used here or there and what is being commanded and what is people's own agency, but you'd have to do so much rewriting to make that work because that also wouldn't play with the script as written.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 17:30 |
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The build up of the voice is so good in the new movie. I almost wanted to look away when Jessica used it on the ornithopter.
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 19:51 |
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K I L L ' I M
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:00 |
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ruddiger posted:The build up of the voice is so good in the new movie. I almost wanted to look away when Jessica used it on the ornithopter. yeah but it's not faithful to the book's description of how the voice sounds so it sucks. 0/10 film
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:19 |
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btw lol at people who actually thought that, because the voice actually is faithful to the spirit of the book's description as it relates to genetic memory of the maternal lineage if dunc haters had their way the voice would have a bunch of random modulations that take away all dramatic effect. it would sound like pewdiepie gargling a rabbit's rear end
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 20:22 |
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The gently caress are you on about?
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# ? Mar 2, 2022 23:15 |
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This explains a lot about how DUNE looks so good https://twitter.com/thebatfilm/status/1500460825936818178
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# ? Mar 7, 2022 16:55 |
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https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-part-two-sequel-florence-pugh-princess-irulan?amp=1
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 03:54 |
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I remember we were batting around ideas for the Emperor earlier, for some reason Pugh reminds me a little bit of Crispin Glover, I could see him pulling that off.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 05:02 |
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The movies have casting that ranges from perfect (Rebecca Furguson) to 'okay I guess but not who I pictured' (Zendaya) but Pugh would be fantastic as Irulan.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-part-two-sequel-florence-pugh-princess-irulan?amp=1 Good choice, imo.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 06:31 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:https://www.ign.com/articles/dune-part-two-sequel-florence-pugh-princess-irulan?amp=1
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 10:12 |
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Announce Shaddam you cowards.
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 23:15 |
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Jack black is my pick, just try and tell yourself he wouldn't be incredible
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# ? Mar 9, 2022 23:19 |
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My Emperor is Jeff Goldblum.sebmojo posted:Jack black is my pick, just try and tell yourself he wouldn't be incredible tried to report this but the button disappeared mods???
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 05:56 |
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they'll probably go with someone boring but adequate. like Ben Kingsley
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 06:04 |
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Charles Dance, probably.
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 06:17 |
irulan freaking out midsommar-style ftw
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 09:03 |
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I'd be ok with Herzog as the Emperor, but my head canon is that he's the black guy who plays the Imperial Herald on Caladan (Benjamin clementine). I like the idea of the Emperor being unrecognizable and getting up to hijinks on his own behalf
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 09:14 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:I'd be ok with Herzog as the Emperor, but my head canon is that he's the black guy who plays the Imperial Herald on Caladan (Benjamin clementine). I like the idea of the Emperor being unrecognizable and getting up to hijinks on his own behalf I think a lot of people were floating the idea that Shaddam and everyone else in Corrino were going to be black based on that guy. Would have been cool, but I guess Pugh kills that theory. Irulan is such a nothing role in the actual action of the book even though she has a cool presence in the chapter intro quotes, so this announcement is kind of uninteresting. Can't wait to see her conspire with Edric and Scytale in Messiah, I guess, but also stand around doing nothing in the final scene of 2UNE.
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 09:34 |
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:My Emperor is Jeff Goldblum. he who controls the spice controls the universe, dude
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 09:55 |
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Buttchocks posted:The industry has always churned out plenty movies like that. The vast majority of them are justifiably forgotten, but people went to theaters to watch them for amusement. There's a poo poo-ton of classical music that's forgettable garbage too, and most of it is never played anymore. We only remember the Mozarts and Beethovans.
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 18:10 |
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"What's the DEAL with Arrakis, huh?"
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# ? Mar 10, 2022 21:13 |
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Arglebargle III posted:"What's the DEAL with Arrakis, huh?" The Atreides walk like THIS, but the Harkonnens want like this!!
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# ? Mar 12, 2022 03:28 |
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"Who's on Arrakis?" "That's right." "'That's right' is on Arrakis?" "No, Who's on Arrakis." "That's what I'm asking!" kalel fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Mar 12, 2022 |
# ? Mar 12, 2022 03:55 |
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Fremen? It drat near killed 'en!
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# ? Mar 12, 2022 04:10 |
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Who would make a good Shaddam IV really depends on if the movie focuses more on the “Final Boss” or “Guy who ignores and fatally misunderstands his collapsing regime” aspect of the character. You’d probably go with the latter if you want to focus more on the Baron and Feyd as the “true” villains. Which I think they’ll probably go with considering the very, let’s call it non-Lynchian, portrayal DUNC had of the Harkonnens.
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# ? Mar 12, 2022 10:42 |
I'm not sure there was enough plans within plans and scheming being portrayed in Dune I, that'd allow the emperor to be portrayed as the final boss who's plans within plans are better than those of anyone elses, and whose only real failing was not foreseeing a demonstrably godlike character, whose existence was only known to a very select number of individuals and who had kept it hidden for hundreds of generations.
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# ? Mar 12, 2022 15:51 |
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What on earth
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# ? May 24, 2024 07:30 |
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This doesn't really need to be said, it's not news to anyone, but Grimes is profoundly stupid in exactly the same way as all 15 year olds. She's got this arrested maturity thing where she never stopped thinking she's the smartest person in the world.
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