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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oh, by the way - I'm keeping the tally for this thread, the "official" one, so you need not spend your energy or time on it. Apologies for not warning you sooner. yeah i need to take a picture of my donation soon. i'll try to make another donation too.
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If you need to remove a gang tag to make room, please remove the shnorkles/borkings institute tag.
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My local Ukrainian Credit Union gave ways to donate to help both the war effort and the humanitarian crisis.   My mom and I also collected some medical and personal hygiene supplies for a collection drive organized by a nearby Ukrainian church.  edit: Forgot to ask for the tag Sashimi fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 12, 2022 |
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Mar 12, 2022 22:16
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 Tag me. Also remove the stupid newbie avatar, please.
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Err yes I would like a tag! Another small donation:  local ukrainian cultural center that's putting together medical aid packages
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Mar 12, 2022 23:36
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Sashimi posted:My local Ukrainian Credit Union gave ways to donate to help both the war effort and the humanitarian crisis. these are nazis
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Mar 13, 2022 01:37
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I know there's a "don't post about the Nazis" rule, but you probably shouldn't donate to an organization that funds the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist Banderites
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Chamale posted:I know there's a "don't post about the Nazis" rule, but you probably shouldn't donate to an organization that funds the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist Banderites Link? I can find something something called the League of Ukrainian Canadians that may--is there a connection between that and the Canada-Ukraine Foundation?
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Chamale posted:I know there's a "don't post about the Nazis" rule, but you probably shouldn't donate to an organization that funds the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist Banderites You and/or the other goon should probably support your assertions here.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:00
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Wrong thread.
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paul_soccer12 posted:these are nazis Chamale posted:I know there's a "don't post about the Nazis" rule, but you probably shouldn't donate to an organization that funds the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalist Banderites efb slightly by GJB We absolutely take seriously trying to steer charity donations to orgs that aren't funding far-right elements. If you'd be so kind as to expand on how these orgs are funding far-right groups in Ukraine we'll put a warning in the OP.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:04
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GreyjoyBastard posted:You and/or the other goon should probably support your assertions here. the UCC are banderites
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paul_soccer12 posted:the UCC are banderites You have evidence?
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https://www.google.com/search?q=UCC+banderites
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Mar 13, 2022 02:06
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Cool, a Facebook group and some dude with a substack.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:08
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paul_soccer12 posted:the UCC are banderites I didn't say "make another unsourced assertion whose connection to the organization linked is not immediately clear". I shouldn't have to google separately from your one-liners to 1) verify who the UCC are and 2) verify that the Canada-Ukraine Foundation at least works regularly with them. It does seem like both those things are the case. e: well providing the google link yourself is a minimum sourcing expectation I guess, please try to provide something like that in the first post in the future
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I didn't say "make another unsourced assertion whose connection to the organization linked is not immediately clear". I shouldn't have to google separately from your one-liners to 1) verify who the UCC are and 2) verify that the Canada-Ukraine Foundation at least works regularly with them. lol (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Here’s an article by a canadian history professor tying the UCC to Bandera https://shron1.chtyvo.org.ua/Khymka...mkn27ibel1h97i0
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Here’s an article by a professor of Canadian history tying the UCC to Bandera thanks
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It does look like they work with Banderite-adjacent orgs at the very least, so I'll update the OP. FYI: the Canada-Ukraine Foundation has associations with far-right groups and we don't recommend donating to them.
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Mar 13, 2022 02:20
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Here’s an article by a canadian history professor tying the UCC to Bandera Thank you.
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For the sake of having more info, this also goes into the fascist roots of UCC with citations. https://coat.ncf.ca/research/Chomiak-Freeland/C-F_9.htm
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I didn't say "make another unsourced assertion whose connection to the organization linked is not immediately clear". I shouldn't have to google separately from your one-liners to 1) verify who the UCC are and 2) verify that the Canada-Ukraine Foundation at least works regularly with them. Well, you could've asked Koos or sebmojo, who looked into it originally and had the UCC removed from the thread over a week ago.
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Varinn posted:Well, you could've asked Koos or sebmojo, who looked into it originally and had the UCC removed from the thread over a week ago. It may occur to you, eventually, that the donation which caused this conversation was not to UCC. CUF is a separate entity, and it’s unclear if you or the 3 posters above are aware of that, or have read anything before posting. The supplied “evidence” likewise doesn’t talk about CUF at all, and it seems to be entirely a lucky coincidence that the two organisations are, in fact, affiliated.
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Yes, but they were getting on Paul specifically for talking about the UCC, like he was saying something new or novel. Wasnt really talking about the original donation. I appreciate your input towards attempting to clear things up though.
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Their post is clearly connected to Paul’s opener, on the second item.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It may occur to you, eventually, that the donation which caused this conversation was not to UCC. CUF is a separate entity, and it’s unclear if you or the 3 posters above are aware of that, or have read anything before posting. The supplied “evidence” likewise doesn’t talk about CUF at all, and it seems to be entirely a lucky coincidence that the two organisations are, in fact, affiliated. https://www.cufoundation.ca/
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I would, personally, not leave a link in the OP up to the nazi supporting charity, even if I taped a hastily scrawled 'oopsie we got caught giving money to nazi supporters again, don't give them any more money' sign next to it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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It's definitely wise to put this sort of warning in the OP. I made my donation on the recommendation of members of my local Ukrainian community, and had I seen this sort of stuff in the OP I would have steered clear and looked for another organization. If another Canadian goon comes along hopefully they'll see the warning.
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Fritz the Horse posted:It does look like they work with Banderite-adjacent orgs at the very least, so I'll update the OP. It's pretty funny that the most you're going to do is edit in a comment to a donation link to funding far right groups is "maybe you shouldn't donate to far right groups, but here's a link to do it anyway"
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HiHo ChiRho posted:It's pretty funny that the most you're going to do is edit in a comment to a donation link to funding far right groups is "maybe you shouldn't donate to far right groups, but here's a link to do it anyway" What, exactly, would you like us to do differently? The link is there to remove any ambiguity about the specific organization. This, here, this exact website is an organization linked to Ukrainian far-right / Banderite organizations and we don't recommend donating. I think it's helpful to be as specific as possible because there are a ton of different charities out there.
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Fritz the Horse posted:What, exactly, would you like us to do differently? It's pretty minor, but you could possibly still keep the description and link but edit to un-hyperlink it. e: and as Sashimi mentioned it could be helpful to include a snippet (not link) that the UCC is also bad? speng31b fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 13, 2022 |
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D+D does not support fascism, it merely highlights ways by which you the viewer at home can most easily give fascists financial support (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:D+D does not support fascism, it merely highlights ways by which you the viewer at home can most easily give fascists financial support Its one thing to call out a bad group to donate to, its another to imply that it was done on purpose. Kindly gently caress off with these sort of posts. Actual thanks to those who are highlighting troubled groups that people should avoid donating to, we will update the OP.
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CommieGIR posted:Actual thanks to those who are highlighting troubled groups that people should avoid donating to no problem
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can we have two tags? one the russiya korable and another for the whoops donated to bandera?
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appropriatemetaphor posted:can we have two tags? one the russiya korable and another for the whoops donated to bandera? No.
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harsh but fair.
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Fritz the Horse posted:What, exactly, would you like us to do differently? honestly if you truly want to be a helpful resource then you should include a section in the OP where you give warnings that these charities are associated with neonazis/banderites/other far rightists and include a citation if you have them obviously dont include a hyperlink to the nazi charities' sites
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