gently caress SNEEP posted:people forcing "cope cages" on to wikipedia like it's actual term and not something internet soldiers came up with is really dumb It’s funnier than half of the jokes people have posted in this thread.
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Sweden and Finland having lots of meetings, plan to present a united front regarding the war https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1503453096084660226?t=Av4iTRxK8kwG_mvxkrEfNA&s=19 Article: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Wj1kkK/uppgifter-regeringen-ska-presentera-nytt-samarbete-med-finland translation posted:Anders Lidén, former ambassador to Helsinki, says that contacts between Sweden and Finland have also intensified in the past during security policy crises, for example when Russia invaded the Crimean peninsula in 2014.
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Willo567 posted:My fear is that a NATO member calling for one is going to start other NATO members calling for a no-fly zone. Is Estonia influential in NATO? It’s the smallest member state, and no one will do anything without American consent. Calm down.
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Willo567 posted:It worries me because now a NATO country is calling for one I would assume a parliamentary vote like that is mostly symbolic and inconsequential since Estonia probably doesn't have a ton of clout inside NATO
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KitConstantine posted:https://twitter.com/RChoongWilkins/status/1503363594049626116?t=S-iy48Pp7LTBXbBIyudERA&s=19 72%!? That can't be right, can it? That's three years of Great Depression numbers.
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Shageletic posted:Luckily it seems to be occurring naturally as US power rapidly declines abroad. You will live and die in a world where the United States is the overwhelmingly dominant military, cultural, and economic force. "Rapid" is only true in historical timeframes. In, say, a century of continued decline the United States might be overtaken. As was said, the total combined loss of grain from Russia and the Ukraine could be met by the US stockpiles alone. We also have the logistics to actually move that grain if we wanted to. We are in almost any metric you care to name, except not being evil and/or caring about it's citizens, orders of magnitude ahead of everyone else. And your master plan is "Just opt out of doing things.". Well, I'm sorry to say that's not going to happen. I mean not sorry, the other one. Incredibly happy.
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gently caress SNEEP posted:people forcing "cope cages" on to wikipedia like it's actual term and not something internet soldiers came up with is really dumb war is really dumb https://twitter.com/aduehren/status/1497655699257671695
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Antillie posted:What the gently caress is with all that random anti javelin scaffolding all around the turret? I mean, it clearly isn't working and its just hilarious to see all these attempts to defeat modern ATGMs with some metal pipes and a welder fail so completely. I have heard of them being referred to as "Cope Cages". And they are not at all effective against javalins.
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Meanwhile other state sponsored media in Russia is also being really cool and normal https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1503450577132527622?t=qpFvJMO3ExdPmOQTC9-Iyw&s=19 If anyone has time and patience for this crap i would request an approximate translation
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cr0y posted:I can't believe no one went for the "yes you can buy our gold but we are going to keep it physically, I mean you trust us right?" Plan. Fun story: at the start of the Spanish Civil War Stalin made a very generous offer to the Republicans to store the Spanish gold reserves in Russia for safekeeping. Yes exactly what you think happened happened.
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Mystic Mongol posted:72%!? That can't be right, can it? That's three years of Great Depression numbers. It's right. Chinese stocks have always been super volatile and recent legal and policy changes by the CCP (as well as trouble in the real estates development sector) are also contributing to the overall downward trend she is citing. This is like a 72% decline from peak, not like a 72% overnight drop.
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Mulva posted:You will live and die in a world where the United States is the overwhelmingly dominant military, cultural, and economic force. "Rapid" is only true in historical timeframes. In, say, a century of continued decline the United States might be overtaken. As was said, the total combined loss of grain from Russia and the Ukraine could be met by the US stockpiles alone. We also have the logistics to actually move that grain if we wanted to. We are in almost any metric you care to name, except not being evil and/or caring about it's citizens, orders of magnitude ahead of everyone else. Depends, moving the grain where?
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ZombieLenin posted:I am just going to assume the 30mm autocannon on a BMP cannot penetrate the side armor of a T-72. I seem to recall that one of the big surprises of the GW1 was that the 25mm Autocannon on the Bradleys/LAVs were, in fact, able to penetrate the side armor on T-72's.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It’s the smallest member state, and no one will do anything without American consent. Calm down. This is Iceland erasure! But yeah. Estonia small too.
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Mulva posted:You will live and die in a world where the United States is the overwhelmingly dominant military, cultural, and economic force. China's GDP is projected to overtake the U.S.' by as early as 2030.
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Does anyone else remember when Trump fired Marie Yovanovitch with zero justification? https://www.npr.org/2020/01/25/799611011/take-her-out-in-new-recording-trump-heard-discussing-firing-ambassador-to-ukrain Certainly clarifies a few things given current events.
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Shageletic posted:The US has a history of intervention in India including actual military clashes in the 1970s. Indian policy of non alignment has been around since the country has been independent. Non adherence and skepticism of US power is not exactly a head scratcher. Yeah no, this not the wrong take whatsoever India has (honestly very shrewdly and wisely) always taken the middle unaligned route during the Cold War, honestly to their great benefit Add in India's history of...less than good relations with Europe and you can see how culturally India has charted a course of neutrality (very armed neutrality). Modi is a shithead compared to past Indian governments, but this has been their stated intentions since independence in terms of diplomacy. India is aligned with India's interests, first and foremost.
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Willo567 posted:It worries me because now a NATO country is calling for one Historically, and I say this without malice, everything worries you.
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Shageletic posted:Cool. Eh, I have more to say about this but it'd be getting off-topic and I'm not sure how much I really want to take this to PMs. Suffice it to say that I think you underestimate the positive influence America is capable of, even with no more than defensive guarantees to prevent other, more aggressive and repressive empires from getting funny ideas. Like, none of this would even be happening now if the stars had moved and Ukraine managed to get NATO membership.
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KitConstantine posted:Meanwhile other state sponsored media in Russia is also being really cool and normal This might be the wrong clip. Here he's rambling about how many subscribers and concurrent viewers his stream is getting across different platforms.
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i don't have a translation by going by the comments the twitter person attached a wrong video to their tweet https://twitter.com/OctopusFractal/status/1503454261472112640 russian alex jones sounds incredibly mad about losing some of his wealth
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Rust Martialis posted:Historically, and I say this without malice, everything worries you. Wilo these type of threads aren't great for you man.
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Mystic Mongol posted:72%!? That can't be right, can it? That's three years of Great Depression numbers. It's not the price which has dropped 72% - it's some metric based on relative profit/earning ratios between US and Chinese stocks. The US is probably pulling levers to make China nervous about their vulnerable real estate sector. The US "China is helping Russia" could very well be agreed upon theater for the benefit of making China seem less of a backstabber when they pull the rug from under Putin. If Chinese stability starts being threatened by this, Xi will tell Putin to end it before some date, one way or another. I'd put money on China already having given that date and Putin having run out of goodwill in getting it pushed forward. The question is whether Putin will commit all to a make-or-break offensive or whether he will fold and accept Ukrainian terms. Ukraine might even have been told about the date by US allies, and thus have a significant advantage during negotiations. However this would piss off China and maybe make them give Putin more time. And so forth. But I really don't think China will let this go on for months. Too risky. In this scenario (a hypothetical Russian deadline): If Ukraine demands Russia give up Donbass, or even Crimea, in the peace talks, they're effectively forcing Putin to go for a full victory before the deadline (which is impossible) or have him accept China pulling support, which would like mean a Russian economic collapse. Interesting times. Not long ago I thought EU and China held the key to ending this war before either side (or both) was destroyed. EU has proven unwilling to move beyond economic warfare and weapon/monetary aid to Ukraine. So it is China which holds the key now. I'm not sure they want this privilege at all.
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Shageletic posted:The US has a history of intervention in India including actual military clashes in the 1970s. Indian policy of non alignment has been around since the country has been independent. Non adherence and skepticism of US power is not exactly a head scratcher. The US government does a good job of covering it up with flowery "Protect Democracy" rhetoric, but since the end of WW 2 we have actively tried to keep potential rivals in check through balance of power. If someone cant become a regional hegemony, they certainly can't become a global hegemony. People tend to see our "alliance" with Pakistan as a product of the war on terror, but that actually strained it, and we were allied with Pakistan long before that. Why were we allied with Pakistan? To ensure they had parity with India. The idea being we didn't have to worry about India being a threat if they were busy dealing with Pakistan. Remember when a bunch of old school neocons freaked out when GWB invaded Iraq? Yeah, that was because he hosed our counterweight to Iran.
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gently caress SNEEP posted:People forcing "cope cages" on to wikipedia like it's actual term and not something internet soldiers came up with is really dumb "santorum", q.v.
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headspace posted:The US government does a good job of covering it up with flowery "Protect Democracy" rhetoric, but since the end of WW 2 we have actively tried to keep potential rivals in check through balance of power. If someone cant become a regional hegemony, they certainly can't become a global hegemony. Here's a fun bit of history: quote:U.S. diplomatic initiatives bUt WHy INdia No LIKe UsA (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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slowdave posted:I would assume a parliamentary vote like that is mostly symbolic and inconsequential since Estonia probably doesn't have a ton of clout inside NATO
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KitConstantine posted:Meanwhile other state sponsored media in Russia is also being really cool and normal "I will destroy you with the Army that cannot destroy a small nation next door!"
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Shageletic posted:Here's a fun bit of history: Add to this: India watched in the 50s-60s the US and the Soviet Union carve up the world, and the US in particular stabbing Nasser in Egypt in the back and allowing Israel carte blanche in its wars. They don't want to be Pakistan's Egypt. India refused to be a colony of imperialism again. The world honestly sleeps on India's growth in recent decades a lot, but their quick trajectory from developing country to regional to borderline world power has been quite impressive to watch.
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KitConstantine posted:Another reporter got hosed up in Ukraine he is gonna get told by corporate to shut the gently caress up real loving quickly probably, especially if the reporter dies. KitConstantine posted:Details on the woman who stormed the set drat, braver person then i will ever be. hope she is able to get out of this.
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KitConstantine posted:Sweden and Finland having lots of meetings, plan to present a united front regarding the war Do Sweden and Finland have some sort of backstabbing rival history?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he is gonna get told by corporate to shut the gently caress up real loving quickly probably, especially if the reporter dies. An optimist! Tucker is their cash cow; they're not going to muzzle him.
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Naked Bear posted:I'm just gonna leave this here: I'm sorry ahead of time.
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OAquinas posted:An optimist! Tucker will say it's a sad situation, but let's review the facts: 1.Ben was no Angel 2.He really had no place being in the way of Putin's right to shell Ukraine 3.Really Biden is to blame for this in the first place 4.Most Americans don't know where Ukraine is on a map: why should we care?
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KillHour posted:Do Sweden and Finland have some sort of backstabbing rival history?
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KillHour posted:Do Sweden and Finland have some sort of backstabbing rival history? Eh, here have some 700 years of history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_under_Swedish_rule
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CommieGIR posted:"I will destroy you with the Army that cannot destroy a small nation next door!" Probably silly nitpicking, and bit unreasonable to make this comment in reply to a (good) joke, but I can't help myself. I know Ukraine is 'small' compared to the US and to the EU combined, but it really isn't that small a nation, neither in population or area. There's a disturbing tendency across Europe right now where Russia is dismissed as pitiful and weak. People claiming weird stuff like actually small NATO members surely being able to wipe the floor with the Russia military. I think that is a dangerous line of thought and I wish more was done to keep it in check. Ukraine is putting up a monumentally brave and clever defense. They're stretching their quite large army to the breaking point to check the Russian offensive. Sure, a coalition of EU or NATO members could perhaps humiliate the Russian military in a war - but this isn't a cakewalk for Ukraine. Thousands are dying. Ukrainian victory is far from assured despite these efforts. Again, I am not trying to strawman these claims on you. Your joke just reminded me that there is this dangerous (and frankly disrespectful towards Ukraine) discourse on the rise, where Russia is being painted as completely toothless and inept. Sure, they weren't what we were expecting. Sure, they've shown some incredible failures at all levels. But despite this, they're still doing massive damage to Ukraine and might still achieve some kind of conventional 'victory'. Trying to dismiss Russia as a non-threat is correct if one is sitting in the US, UK, Canada or Australia. But for European nations with sharing borders by land or sea with Russia, it really reeks of hubris and not wanting to acknowledge the massive cost paid by the Ukrainian people right now. Sorry for being all sour and negative, when you all you did was make fun of someone who deserved it. I'm just a bit saddened by my fellow Europeans who are treating this like Russia is already yesterday's threat and Ukrainian farmers are already doing victory laps in their tractors.
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This is the injured Fox News reporter, a few days ago https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1501329993523204096?s=20&t=1WuBfqFx7d7ITGvJcASRKA
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Rinkles posted:This is the injured Fox News reporter, a few days ago Yeah I checked to see who the dude was: unforunately seems like he was a pretty stand up guy and pushed back on the Putin Crew quite a bit, seems like a standard foreign affairs journalist Honestly hope he's okay
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https://mobile.twitter.com/gkates/status/1503461628179894274?cxt=HHwWhMC-kdOYr90pAAAA
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