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CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Rear axles break or bend all the time on freewheel rear wheels. Nobody did anything wrong unless there was a loose QR.

I think I may have misunderstood the problem though.

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100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




CopperHound posted:

Rear axles break or bend all the time on freewheel rear wheels. Nobody did anything wrong unless there was a loose QR.

I think I may have misunderstood the problem though.

I may have also. Like I said though tire's wobbly and the bike can't be ridden. Maybe no one is to blame, but the whole vacation debacle is enough for me to stop going to the shop closest to me and try another one.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

EvilJoven posted:

So many combos of tires and rims. I've mounted Marathons in like 5 minutes without having to think about it and then the next time I'm debating filing a comp claim for physio because my hands get all jacked up. I'm pretty sure if I ever switch to Marathons for commuting or touring I'd practice mounting and unmounting a few times just to make sure it's physically possible to do it in a reasonable amount of time before heading out. Screw being a half hour late for something because Schwalbe engineers are masochists.
I once had to help someone put their dumb marathons back on the rim because they literally didn't have the hand strength to do it. This was after a long afternoon ride too so of course I was tired AF too.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

100YrsofAttitude posted:

I may have also. Like I said though tire's wobbly and the bike can't be ridden. Maybe no one is to blame, but the whole vacation debacle is enough for me to stop going to the shop closest to me and try another one.

sounds like cones getting unlocked and backing off, making the axle loose. if it was tightened right away it might be fine but probably toast if it was used like that for a while i'm guessing

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

evil_bunnY posted:

I once had to help someone put their dumb marathons back on the rim because they literally didn't have the hand strength to do it. This was after a long afternoon ride too so of course I was tired AF too.

At this point I've fixed thousands of flats. Last summer I was trying to put a wire bead gatorskin on an admittedly probably a bit too wide rim and after struggling for what felt like an hour ruining a tube in the process I asked my boss who's been working in a bike shop for 20 years to see if he could do it. He gave me a 'jesus you still cant change a tube?' look, grabbed the wheel and after watching himself turn blue in the face for a good 10 minutes I heard PSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH as the tube deflated.

He threw the tire lever on the counter handed it back to me and said 'tell them to buy a different loving tire'.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Man_of_Teflon posted:

sounds like cones getting unlocked and backing off, making the axle loose. if it was tightened right away it might be fine but probably toast if it was used like that for a while i'm guessing

My bike path is not super well paved and can get quite bumpy and I'm riding with at least... 3-5 kg on the back rack, the weight coming off of my bike locks really. I think that did it in.

I noticed the problems when I put some air in my tires on Monday. It was getting harder to pedal. Actually speaking of Marathon +'s. I haven't had a flat since I got them, but they are certainly too big for my bike because they just about clear the mudguard, but if they are too inflated they just barely clear the brakes. Like if you spin a wheel it'll stop by itself in a few seconds instead of spinning freely. They may have been installed poorly, again I went to what is now a rather lovely establishment, but it could just be the size of my bike.

Either way, it was harder to pedal, which didn't surprise me, and now this. I don't know what cones are and all, and the guy I saw said he could do a quick fix but it wouldn't necessarily last the 10km I needed to get home nor would it actually fix the problem.

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

EvilJoven posted:

At this point I've fixed thousands of flats. Last summer I was trying to put a wire bead gatorskin on an admittedly probably a bit too wide rim and after struggling for what felt like an hour ruining a tube in the process I asked my boss who's been working in a bike shop for 20 years to see if he could do it. He gave me a 'jesus you still cant change a tube?' look, grabbed the wheel and after watching himself turn blue in the face for a good 10 minutes I heard PSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH as the tube deflated.

He threw the tire lever on the counter handed it back to me and said 'tell them to buy a different loving tire'.

This post hurt me.

But also: lol

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
Sounds like cone wear

An annoying and expensive lesson to learn

Any time your bike seems "clunky" check the rear wheel and if it has play, if it does asap get a wrench and tighten it up to where you don't have play But it still spins

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Jestery posted:

Sounds like cone wear

An annoying and expensive lesson to learn

Any time your bike seems "clunky" check the rear wheel and if it has play, if it does asap get a wrench and tighten it up to where you don't have play But it still spins

I’ll keep that in mind. I got it with the first Covid check June of 2020. Aside from the tires, after 4 flats, and the chain nothing else has been changed. I ride an average of 100km per week except during the summer. So wear and tear feels reasonable?

What exactly is the cone and by tighten you mean the bolts that you undue to get the wheel off when changing a flat?

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape
I'm horrible at explaining things I'm sorry



If there is play and the locknut is loose, the hub can rattle and the cones and cups can dent , size rattle etc. Terminally damaging the hub

You must lighten the lock nut (usually with a specialist cone spanned, but a narrow wrench can do to job in a pinch) untill it's tight enough to keep everything in place , but not so tight as to restrict radial movement

ThirstyBuck
Nov 6, 2010

I bought a new cheap rim from the LBS for my
old beater schwinn. Unbeknownst to me they handed me a 27.5 rim and spent a good 30 min breaking levers and cursing to get my 700c tire on it. Then it hit the brakes so I had to tear it all down afterwards and go back to the wobbly 700c wheel.

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

ThirstyBuck posted:

I bought a new cheap rim from the LBS for my
old beater schwinn. Unbeknownst to me they handed me a 584 mm rim and spent a good 30 min breaking levers and cursing to get my 622 mm tire on it. Then it hit the brakes so I had to tear it all down afterwards and go back to the wobbly 622 mm wheel.

You deserve this.

ThirstyBuck
Nov 6, 2010

Groda posted:

You deserve this.

Not really. I gave them the old rim and asked for a new one and they gave me the wrong one. Shame on me for trusting that the LBS can correctly ID a wheel I guess.

E: it’s 630mm vs 622mm. Not 584mm

ThirstyBuck fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 11, 2022

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Oh you mean a 27 x 1 1/4

Sucks but ya their fault. I could see it happening though if their giant mess of wheels in their scary basement wheel dungeon was temporary a mess.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

You actually got the 700c tire on the 27" rim eventually? :thunk:

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Jestery posted:

I'm horrible at explaining things I'm sorry



If there is play and the locknut is loose, the hub can rattle and the cones and cups can dent , size rattle etc. Terminally damaging the hub

You must lighten the lock nut (usually with a specialist cone spanned, but a narrow wrench can do to job in a pinch) untill it's tight enough to keep everything in place , but not so tight as to restrict radial movement

I see (better...)!

I found a wheel at any rate, and got it fixed! Ran around the east of Paris looking for one in 3 different stores, until I had the brilliant idea of calling the shop before going to them to see if they had the piece.

Anyway, the technician took the wheel and the hub just fell apart, all these ball bearings just slipped out. Thing was shot.

It also super confirmed that the mechanics next to my place are lovely. I told the new guy that I had the old people do a check-up in January, and was told that they should've seen this coming. Not wanting to judge them more he didn't say more, but that told me pretty much that they didn't do poo poo.

I was also told that the gears are going to need fixing in the near future, if not a full replacement, and that there was clearly a bunch of odds and ends that needed doing or were not done super well. Goes to show, plus they were way more expensive than this new dude, which is unfortunately close to work, but not convenient considering the distance I need to cover. Maybe I could see them with more regularity if I rearrange my schedule. I have another garage nearby, 10 minutes away versus 3, but now I know who not to return to.

It was nice to ride home though, glad to my bike (Coco) in working condition again and to have him home.

ThirstyBuck
Nov 6, 2010

CopperHound posted:

You actually got the 700c tire on the 27" rim eventually? :thunk:

I broke a lever and it was an old Forté tire. But yes, eventually. My brain went all lizard and I was hulking out on it. I wouldn’t have gotten very far with a new tough tire.

SimonSays
Aug 4, 2006

Simon is the monkey's name

100YrsofAttitude posted:

I see (better...)!

I found a wheel at any rate, and got it fixed! Ran around the east of Paris looking for one in 3 different stores, until I had the brilliant idea of calling the shop before going to them to see if they had the piece.

Anyway, the technician took the wheel and the hub just fell apart, all these ball bearings just slipped out. Thing was shot.

It also super confirmed that the mechanics next to my place are lovely. I told the new guy that I had the old people do a check-up in January, and was told that they should've seen this coming. Not wanting to judge them more he didn't say more, but that told me pretty much that they didn't do poo poo.

I was also told that the gears are going to need fixing in the near future, if not a full replacement, and that there was clearly a bunch of odds and ends that needed doing or were not done super well. Goes to show, plus they were way more expensive than this new dude, which is unfortunately close to work, but not convenient considering the distance I need to cover. Maybe I could see them with more regularity if I rearrange my schedule. I have another garage nearby, 10 minutes away versus 3, but now I know who not to return to.

It was nice to ride home though, glad to my bike (Coco) in working condition again and to have him home.

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Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

my friend bought his partner a fancy ebike and rode to the city with her.

It was stolen while they had lunch. I thought, that's odd, he uses a folding lock and it was left in a busy place.

I asked how they cut through it and he said to save time they used a cable lock. loving expensive lesson right there.

The also left his touring bike in place, which he paid over 2k for.

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
yeesh. I never figured out which coworker it was, but there was someone who would lock up their front wheel only (with quick release skewers) using a cable lock. Luckily the bike was a beater/old mountain bike, but jesus.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Animal Friend posted:

my friend bought his partner a fancy ebike and rode to the city with her.

It was stolen while they had lunch. I thought, that's odd, he uses a folding lock and it was left in a busy place.

I asked how they cut through it and he said to save time they used a cable lock. loving expensive lesson right there.

The also left his touring bike in place, which he paid over 2k for.

Folding locks are pretty poo poo in the scheme of things too.

I’d go for a D-lock for anything left out of my sight for any amount of time, easy decision in a city, and when a battery is helping carry it about.

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
The manganese steel chain locks are good because it's very awkward to grind a floppy chain

Frequent Handies
Nov 26, 2006

      :yum:

I had a Kona Dew Deluxe about a decade ago that I just absolutely loved, it fit perfectly and rode like a dream. It was stolen out of my car I ended up getting a used road bike and trying that whole thing out for awhile, getting up to 50-75m rides and using it as a car replacement in Portland.

Now I'm gonna be back in Portland, only this time I have no bike, a two year old and a 50lb dog I'll need to be pulling around town with me, and I'd like to get back up to those long rides too. Any suggestions on the bike and hauling method? 5'9", 30" inseam, I'd be fine spending a grand, hesitant at two and would probably balk above that for the whole package.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

Frequent Handies posted:

I had a Kona Dew Deluxe about a decade ago that I just absolutely loved, it fit perfectly and rode like a dream. It was stolen out of my car I ended up getting a used road bike and trying that whole thing out for awhile, getting up to 50-75m rides and using it as a car replacement in Portland.

Now I'm gonna be back in Portland, only this time I have no bike, a two year old and a 50lb dog I'll need to be pulling around town with me, and I'd like to get back up to those long rides too. Any suggestions on the bike and hauling method? 5'9", 30" inseam, I'd be fine spending a grand, hesitant at two and would probably balk above that for the whole package.

If you're not in a super hilly part of town you could get away with something like this:

State All Road (700c or 650b, take your pick!) - $899: https://www.statebicycle.com/collections/gravel-all-road-cross-off-road/products/4130-all-road-copper-brown-650b-700c

and then one of these trailers - $169: https://retrospec.com/collections/bike-trailers/products/rover-bike-trailer-single-double-child

Don't forget to factor in money for some fenders!

If you want to go the e-bike/cargo bike route a RadWagon would be in your budget: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radwagon-electric-cargo-bike

They've got some accessories for hauling kids and dogs too, although a 50lb dog might be too big. I'm in SW and have been thinking of getting a e-bike to flatten out some of these hills, my knees aren't as good as they once were!

frogbs fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 14, 2022

Frequent Handies
Nov 26, 2006

      :yum:

frogbs posted:

If you're not in a super hilly part of town you could get away with something like this:

State All Road (700c or 650b, take your pick!) - $899: https://www.statebicycle.com/collections/gravel-all-road-cross-off-road/products/4130-all-road-copper-brown-650b-700c

and then one of these trailers - $169: https://retrospec.com/collections/bike-trailers/products/rover-bike-trailer-single-double-child

Don't forget to factor in money for some fenders!

If you want to go the e-bike/cargo bike route a RadWagon would be in your budget: https://www.radpowerbikes.com/products/radwagon-electric-cargo-bike

They've got some accessories for hauling kids and dogs too, although a 50lb dog might be too big. I'm in SW and have been thinking of getting a e-bike to flatten out some of these hills, my knees aren't as good as they once were!

Thanks for this, gives me a good start point. I'll likely have to dig around more for the trailer... I was hoping to get both dog and two year old in the same carrier, preferably separated somehow.

Love the RadWagon, but I'm also travelling around the country via car so whatever I get has to go on the roof rack and that has a 50lb limit. For hills though I cannot recommend an ebike enough - I have a Juiced Crosscurrent X that I used to commute 12 miles with that had several noteable hills and I was able to cruise right up them without changing my pace at all. Plus being able to hit the throttle and start pedaling smoothly from a stop... that said I don't think I'd ever do a wheel hub ebike again.

Just read the review for this bike too, what a great recommendation! Never would have considered a bike like this but it seems like it'll hit the ticket for versatility, and I can load it up with the bags I have and a steel frame seems like it would be able to handle the 100 pound load I'd ultimately like to haul.

Edit: Not in SW thankfully, but I'll be starting out in downtown and 'commuting' to NE 67th to pick up the kid frequently, so that'll be a nice steady uphill workout at the least. Makes me wish I was bringing the Juiced along (but I can't tow on it so meh).

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib

100YrsofAttitude posted:

It was nice to ride home though, glad to my bike (Coco) in working condition again and to have him home.

I love a happy ending.

I washed my bike yesterday, hadn't had an encounter with soapy water for a long time and the last few weeks have been muddy. And this marks the start of using Rock and Roll Gold, as recommended by this thread. My morning commute was lovely.

oXDemosthenesXo
May 9, 2005
Grimey Drawer
I need a recommendation for new rain pants. My old cheap set is wearing out in the crotch so it looks like I wet myself after I ride in moderate rain.

Specially I'm looking for over pants, and they don't need to be super breathable because I mostly ride my ebike on my commute. Durability is important as I'd like to get a pair that lasts quite awhile. Ankle cinches are also important.

I did some light searching and the selection of there is pretty bad. It's Showers Pass the only dedicated rain gear manufacturer? Their stuff looks good although I see mixed reviews about fits and sizing.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

not rain pants but I just splurged for a Cleverhood cape thing, and it kept me quite dry during the one rain storm I've been through so far. it also comes in an amazing dazzle white and black pattern.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

CopperHound posted:

This is why I talk poo poo about all my bike stuff.

Patches don't stick to the inside of my Cannonballs and Darn gravelkings are too close to poop color.


poop color is a feature

Invalido
Dec 28, 2005

BICHAELING
All rain pants I've ever used wear out in the crotch. All pant-like things I ride in except bike bibs do, including boxer briefs and long johns, especially the nice ones.
Just buy a new set of cheap rain pants and ride in them until they start leaking too is my recommendation.
I actually ride in an old really fancy pair of gore-tex rain pants most winter days but they leak like crazy so I use a new cheap pair for actual rainy days. When they inevitably start leaking in the crotch I'll get another set.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Just embrace the rain and ride in shorts like I do. Skin dries far faster than you think.

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
I use these from rei
https://www.rei.com/product/137186/rei-co-op-essential-rain-pants-mens
They last about a season before the internal crotch layer gives up.

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Just get a $20 frogg toggs pro lite suit so you don't feel bad about ripping it on the first ride. Then get pink zebra duck tape for patching it.

frogbs
May 5, 2004
Well well well

deong posted:

I use these from rei
https://www.rei.com/product/137186/rei-co-op-essential-rain-pants-mens
They last about a season before the internal crotch layer gives up.

The taint spice melt the pant

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Man_of_Teflon posted:

not rain pants but I just splurged for a Cleverhood cape thing, and it kept me quite dry during the one rain storm I've been through so far. it also comes in an amazing dazzle white and black pattern.

I also have a Cleverhood cape, in bright yellow! I got it in September but really haven't had the chance to use it yet.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
With how much slush and puddles we're about to get after a record setting snow accumulation over winter I'm about ready to say gently caress it and buy an adult size muddy buddy suit. It's gonna be sloppy AF for a very long time here.

I wonder if the adult ones have cool dinosaurs on them.

oXDemosthenesXo
May 9, 2005
Grimey Drawer
Sounds like I need to just rebuy some cheap pants. This last pair made it 5 years so I doubt I'll beat that.

Cape and ponchos and shorts-only aren't really options for the weather here or the way I ride.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




oXDemosthenesXo posted:

Sounds like I need to just rebuy some cheap pants. This last pair made it 5 years so I doubt I'll beat that.

Cape and ponchos and shorts-only aren't really options for the weather here or the way I ride.

To be honest it isn’t for a lot of places. I just hate getting overly sweaty and my commute is short enough at 10 km that I can just deal.

Hard rain, which I can get 1-3 times a year if I get unlucky will soak through eventually into my shoes which isn’t great since they take a while to dry.

FireTora
Oct 6, 2004

Rain capes are amazing for rain commuting, but you need a decent front fender, and is they're miserable if it's windy where you are. I've been using a Cleverhood for a few years now.

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wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?
Better solution: just wear cycling specific water resistant thermal bib tights and change when you arrive.

No idea how it’s worth rustling about in that kind of over-trouser if you can just change clothes.

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