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School of How posted:I think it should. Not everyone who enrolls in training makes it through. The company loses if you flunk out of training. If I've already passed, then that risk goes away. If I leave the company after just a few weeks, the company is not out anything because they were never "in" on anything in the first place. Around where I love, if you walk into a job interview with a self-paid type rating, you've got a 50/50 chance that they'll just tell you to gently caress off forever and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Something to think about...
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anyone here knowledgeable enough to possibly explain how the crash in China could have happened? the wings just... fell off?
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actionjackson posted:anyone here knowledgeable enough to possibly explain how the crash in China could have happened? the wings just... fell off? There are 50 or so things that could have happened- pilot suicide, major mechanical failure, AP fault followed by loss of control. Generally, even if you’re knowledgeable enough to be able to connect some dots, you won’t get the whole picture until weeks later because most of the dots aren’t public yet
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actionjackson posted:anyone here knowledgeable enough to possibly explain how the crash in China could have happened? the wings just... fell off?
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Mar 21, 2022 15:47
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I would make a joke about airplanes being held to "Very rigiorus aeronautical engineering standards" but it's a 737.
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I was doing 145kn in a drat Diamond 40 into Charleston Air Base and the ATC told me to ”follow the two F-16s on final, maintain best speed” and I responded that the wings are gonna come off if I go any faster. That’s my wing rip story.
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KodiakRS posted:I would make a joke about airplanes being held to "Very rigiorus aeronautical engineering standards" but it's a 737.
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actionjackson posted:anyone here knowledgeable enough to possibly explain how the crash in China could have happened? the wings just... fell off? Because you touch yourself OP
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Mar 22, 2022 01:44
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We all do
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actionjackson posted:anyone here knowledgeable enough to possibly explain how the crash in China could have happened? the wings just... fell off? If you want a mechanical possibility, look at alaska airlines 261. Heres the mayday episode on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2A_fsx7prY The elevators on a 737 work very differently from a MD-80 so it wouldn't be the same failure but it gives you an idea of the kind of mechanical failure that could cause this. The 737 series in general has a history of rudder issues, though thats been "fixed". But nobody knows right now. edit: of course theres a mayday episode on the 737 rudder too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BklCXZq2anU hobbesmaster fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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Yeah, you just have to wait for some more clues to be revealed to even get a reasonable idea.
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Arson Daily posted:Because you touch yourself OP "When a Goon touches their things, an airplane loses its wings!" More seriously and for what it's worth, FR24's graphs showed a first massive descent, then a recovery and brief climb, before the second plummet.
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  -- Source is New York Times. Video shows an airliner in flight going straight down, China Eastern Airlines Flight 5735. Does not show impact.Don't watch it if you don't want to see that. Can equipment failure alone do this? https://m.weibo.cn/status/4749509752789291#&video
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Yes. But,a patagonian cavy posted:There are 50 or so things that could have happened- pilot suicide, major mechanical failure, AP fault followed by loss of control. Generally, even if you’re knowledgeable enough to be able to connect some dots, you won’t get the whole picture until weeks later because most of the dots aren’t public yet
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a patagonian cavy posted:Yes. But, Yeah I saw that post. With that angle, I dunno if the recorder boxes will be recoverable. In TYOOL 2022, these machines should really have real time data uplink of the same info in the boxes, no? If I can use Spirit Airlines wifi to look at these dead forums, one would think they could figure out reliable real-time uplink. Inner Light fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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A lot of data does get uploaded in more or less real time. As for the rest, collecting, processing, transmitting, recieving, and storing that data would be a royal pain. Every step of the process would need to be engineered, certified, installed, and maintained. Which is a lot of effort, time and money to spend on supplementing something with a <1 in 100,000,000 chance of being destroyed on any given flight. For what it's worth ET302 hit the dirt at 450+ knots with a huge vertical component to its velocity and both it's FDR and CVR were able to be retrieved.
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https://twitter.com/teyrsethow/status/1506354346291834884 imagining the NOTAM for that place being all RWY 28 DEP MAKE LT TURN TO HDG 190 WI 500 FT OF RWY 10 THLD TO AVOID INTL BDR INCSN
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KodiakRS posted:A lot of data does get uploaded in more or less real time. As for the rest, collecting, processing, transmitting, recieving, and storing that data would be a royal pain. Every step of the process would need to be engineered, certified, installed, and maintained. Which is a lot of effort, time and money to spend on supplementing something with a <1 in 100,000,000 chance of being destroyed on any given flight. Atlas Air 3591 was around 430 knots too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSNr5DR840
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There's a reason they're mounted in the tail when all the data they're recording is generated in the nose.
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How plausible is this story? https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousC...utm_name=iossmf
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hobbesmaster posted:How plausible is this story? Very.
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JFC that sounds like my airline
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Good for them. I had a 135 operator years ago tell me I couldn’t upgrade to captain pay because I didn’t meet their time requirements. Fine, I’ll wait until I get to X, I still fly left seat and don’t have the liability on my ticket, whatever. A big trip comes up with bad timing and they ask me to do it with a lower time SIC. Same bullshit, we need a team player! If you told me I couldn’t upgrade because they don’t need another captain yet I’d have bought that but now they’re losing trips because “sorry I don’t have the X hours you told me I had to have.”
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My supervisor once refused to give me holiday pay for Labor Day because it "wasn't part of my normal schedule" even though he had paid me for Memorial Day and, per HR, it was OK for him to do because I didn't really HAVE a normal schedule. Little did he know that, as I got the email rejecting it, I was standing next to a recruiter from Brickyard.
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hobbesmaster posted:How plausible is this story? aviation.txt
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quote:not to mention all the passengers who were pissed off from the extra wait who all were comped some credits with the airline for the trouble
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Well, the passengers that called and complained might’ve. Though probably just miles.
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Rolo posted:I had a 135 operator Found your problem
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Alaska is purging their A320s, A321s, and Horizon's Q400s by the end of next year.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Alaska is purging their A320s, A321s, and Horizon's Q400s by the end of next year.
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The airbuses all came from Virgin, right? They were originally all Boeing, they’re Seattle’s airline after all. Or, at least were.
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hobbesmaster posted:Well, the passengers that called and complained might’ve. Though probably just miles. They each got 100 dollars! *as four separate $25 vouchers **that can only be used on flights with the same airline ***purchased at full fare on the airline's own website ****only one voucher may be applied per trip *****for a list of blackout days and other restrictions please read this 75-page PDF
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hobbesmaster posted:The airbuses all came from Virgin, right? They were originally all Boeing, they’re Seattle’s airline after all. Or, at least were.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Alaska is purging their A320s, A321s, and Horizon's Q400s by the end of next year. The Airbus thing isn't a surprise, but Alaska just spent several million dollars on new paint, interiors, and flight deck equipment for the Q400's last year, and was saying the airplanes probably had another decade of service as late as last week, so absolutely no one saw that coming. Horizon claims parking the Q fleet is being done because of retention problems, but the announcement was handled so badly that they likely made the problem significantly worse, as there's now absolutely zero reason for anyone to apply to be a pilot at Horizon.
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azflyboy posted:
Ooo dish!
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Arson Daily posted:Ooo dish! On Thursday, Horizon sent out an email at 4AM saying that they were parking the entire Q400 fleet in 18 months, and providing zero details beyond that. The 4AM timing is relevant since it coincided with an investor conference Alaska Airlines was doing in NYC, so this was a stunt to boost the stock. The few details that came out later that day were that we were parking 32 airplanes (by late 2023), but only replacing them with 12 (by 2025), which means we're losing about 1/3 of our fleet. No details were provided as to how many airplanes the airline was supposed to end up with, or what bases may or may not exist. The stated reason for parking the Q fleet was because of attrition, but as the plans stand now, the timing of the drawdown means that anyone we hire now will see their seniority at best be absolutely stagnant for 18 months, and it'll probably move backwards as Q retirements continue. Combining that with the fact that we fly a ton of 30-40 minute legs and have some serious flaws in our contract, there's basically zero reason for pilots to apply with Horizon for the next 12-18 months.
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Why don’t they have a flow to Alaska yet? As far as I can see the only major appeal to work for Horizon/Alaska at this point compared to competitors is if you want to live in the PNW. That would at least guarantee some movement for pilots.
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Two Kings posted:Why don’t they have a flow to Alaska yet? As far as I can see the only major appeal to work for Horizon/Alaska at this point compared to competitors is if you want to live in the PNW. That would at least guarantee some movement for pilots. We have "Pathways", which is kind of like flow, but Alaska isn't obligated to take everyone, and the requirements to go to Alaska can and do change whenever Alaska says they do. They lowered the PIC requiment last year, but we all assume that's just so they can move the nephew of the Alaska CEO there, at which point they'll move the goalposts to try and stem the bleeding from Horizon. Alaska is under the delusion that they're still the greatest airline in the history of anything ever, so a lot of people are doing Pathways, getting the 737 or Airbus type rating, and immediately bailing for Delta or United, and Alaska is baffled as to why this keeps happening.
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