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I mean my love for the character was never tied to her powers anyway and if I'm being honest purple crystal energy projection is way cooler, even if it might be a bit samey. I guess the weird/dorkyness of stretch growth powers is probably better suited to her but I'm not real worried about it.
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Mar 15, 2022 16:57
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https://twitter.com/KevinNewburn/status/1503748526819393544 It's a valid argument.
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Mar 15, 2022 17:14
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site posted:i dunno, i really don't like the power change, but I'm still gonna watch it anyways so  And I know everyone floated the idea back when the preview images were first leaked but I just cannot help but feel like this is all so they can avoid having a stretchy hero before Fantastic Four comes out. Because two super heroes? With the same powers? Ridiculous. Also because Inhumans is still Marvel's Shameful Secret Dawgstar posted:https://twitter.com/KevinNewburn/status/1503748526819393544 Finally someone's talking sense again.
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Mar 15, 2022 17:17
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There is the argument that her shape changing powers were a good metaphor for her growing up and determining the kind of person she wanted to be. That said, it still looks like it will be a lot of fun. This will just be the nit I continue to pick.
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Mar 15, 2022 17:19
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Part of me wonders if it's as simple as they just didn't want to go to the trouble of both 1) Figuring a way to have a character's limbs enlarge and shrink at high speed while maintaining whatever standard of image quality they have for themselves and 2) Do that on a Disney+ limited series budget A less charitable theory would be that they want to save the stretchy bits for Reed. But then, in a similar vein, you can argue it's weird that Carol has energy absorption, Monica has spectrum control and manipulation, and Kamala has... selectively big limbs
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Mar 15, 2022 17:25
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I have zero attachment to the character so I think the crystal stuff looks pretty neat. But the trailer didn't really do anything for me.
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Mar 15, 2022 17:44
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Making those the quantum bands is a good idea to tie her to Carol. Stretchy powers look real bad in live action. But yeah, her powers aren't the most important aspect of the character.
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Mar 15, 2022 17:51
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glitchwraith posted:There is the argument that her shape changing powers were a good metaphor for her growing up and determining the kind of person she wanted to be. I mean it seems clear from the trailer that the essential components of that - that she’s able to project a size and power that belies her normal exterior - are intact. It’s just energy projection instead of stretching. Specifically, there’s a shot of her doing a big fist and if leaks are to be believed she does pull an “embiggen” moment by the end of the show
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Mar 15, 2022 17:56
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"BUT IF SHE HAS THE QUANTUM BANDS WHAT ABOUT QUASAR" -some fat white guy in a basement somewhere probably
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Mar 15, 2022 18:24
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Twitter's been a lot of fun with the comments on the official trailer post. Generally the tone tends towards "I hate these woke culture bullshit minority superhero teenagers, but also do please change her powers back to what they were." When the love of culture war crashes against the fear of change.
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Mar 15, 2022 18:25
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People are asking about Quantum Bands but in the spirit of keeping things "Marvel" (the characters with that name, not the company) wouldn't they be more likely to be a variation on Nega-Bands? I'm hoping those things are bound to her. One thing I like about her powers compared to a GL ring is that they are hers. She was changed. They are part of her. I don't want her powers to be some piece of tech or magic that she's merely in possession of at the moment. Edit: then again, I don't think "Nega-Bands" is the best name to be said aloud a lot... Maybe it's best left on the printed page. Lobok fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Mar 15, 2022 |
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Mar 15, 2022 18:47
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Medullah posted:I still get irrationally angry when I see people talk about how Preacher was "So accurate to the comic, Seth Rogan really nailed it". Seth Rogan basically kept all the most juvenile stuff from Preacher and cut the parts that were actual good. Like that Jesse's violent behavior is something that he needs to grow out of and that his relationship with Cassidy is really toxic.
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Mar 15, 2022 18:53
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maybe they just unlock something in her, and by the end of the show she doesn't need them anymore.
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Mar 15, 2022 18:54
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I still don't love the power change, but they looked really cool in action and she obviously can't be an Inhuman, which is okay because the Inhumans loving suck on toast, always have, always will. And the vibe was dead-on. I'm not sure those are the Nega-Bands, though. (Or, I suppose, not the ones from the comics -- there's no reason they couldn't end up being called that, or the Quantum Bands.) They actually reminded me of the Ten Rings, and considering how Shang-Chi left "what the gently caress are those, what is their deal" as its most open, burning question, having more, similar artifacts pop up would make sense.
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CapnAndy posted:I still don't love the power change, but they looked really cool in action and she obviously can't be an Inhuman, which is okay because the Inhumans loving suck on toast, always have, always will. Play Marvel already shot themselves in the foot twice over by having Inhumans be the equivalent of the X-Men in Agents of SHIELD and then having that god-awful Inhumans miniseries. One ship sailed and the other sank. I don't think they'll really be able to introduce Inhumans into the MCU proper for a long time, if ever.
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Mar 15, 2022 19:17
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they promptly disappeared from the 616 after death of x so i don't think anyone at marvel is much concerned about that
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Mar 15, 2022 19:29
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As long as Kamala’s personality is the same, I don’t care if the powers are different. I don’t like her because she’s stretchy, I like her because she’s a kind and earnest fangirl who wants to help her community.
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site posted:they promptly disappeared from the 616 after death of x so i don't think anyone at marvel is much concerned about that
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Mar 15, 2022 19:38
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Joe Fisto posted:As long as Kamala’s personality is the same, I don’t care if the powers are different. I don’t like her because she’s stretchy, I like her because she’s a kind and earnest fangirl who wants to help her community. Kamala is just so awesome.
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VanillaGorilla posted:I mean it seems clear from the trailer that the essential components of that - that she’s able to project a size and power that belies her normal exterior - are intact. It’s just energy projection instead of stretching. Yeah, she'll have the big fists and what-not, which is cool. But it's still strange to see Ms. Marvel throwing up force fields and hopping across mid-air stepping stones. It's almost like they took her away from Mr. Fantastic's power only to give her half of Invisible Woman's power.
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Alhazred posted:Seth Rogan basically kept all the most juvenile stuff from Preacher and cut the parts that were actual good. Like that Jesse's violent behavior is something that he needs to grow out of and that his relationship with Cassidy is really toxic. -Family changed to devil worshippers, less critical of American Christianity -Father changes/no war flashbacks and thus no interrogation of American masculinity -Less of the "Cassidy is a piece of poo poo" which means no reflection on America as a place for reinvention and renewal -No "needs more gun" -No "where the gently caress is your chin" -No "till the end of the world"
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Mar 15, 2022 20:07
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She wears bands already in the comic, but they're just a family heirloom. Based on the trailer that element looks to still be part of it since she finds them in a chest in a shed or something.
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Sgt. Politeness posted:I mean my love for the character was never tied to her powers anyway and if I'm being honest purple crystal energy projection is way cooler, even if it might be a bit samey. I guess the weird/dorkyness of stretch growth powers is probably better suited to her but I'm not real worried about it. I figure it's really tricky to animate that sort of thing in live action without it being (unintentionally) grotesque. So you either have to match the tone or tweak things enough to give a disconnect.
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Mar 15, 2022 20:27
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Yeah, live action stretchy powers are really hard to do in a way that looks convincing and isn't horrific.
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The only thing that hurts Kamala not being an Inhuman is that she won't have Lockjaw as a pet. Or gently caress it, just put Lockjaw in the show and he's a teleporting dog from space.
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CapnAndy posted:I still don't love the power change, but they looked really cool in action and she obviously can't be an Inhuman, which is okay because the Inhumans loving suck on toast, always have, always will. And the vibe was dead-on. Inhumans are cool and good actually, and I am ready to die on this hill.  (Disclaimer: I never read any Inhumans at all until they got essentially rebooted post-Infinity) Codependent Poster posted:The only thing that hurts Kamala not being an Inhuman is that she won't have Lockjaw as a pet. Lockjaw was on Inhumans though, and as previously mentioned Marvel would rather everybody forget that.
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Lockjaw is a good boy and doesn't deserve the taint of that Inhumans show on him.
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Nobody watched Inhumans though, so just put Lockjaw in.
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They could easily just put lockjaw in there and say he's just an alien dog, he doesn't need a bit backstory and he can't talk anyways
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Ms Marvel ends with her family taking a vacation to Hawaii and she finds a gigantic teleporting dog living in a cave surrounded by the bones of all the other Inhumans.
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Everyone keeps saying that stretchy limbs don't look good in live-action, but aside from Fox's awful F4 movies and like...Space Jam, where else have stretchy limbs been done in live-action before? EDIT: Y'all gonna look real silly when the Netflix One Piece comes out. 
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Vandar posted:Everyone keeps saying that stretchy limbs don't look good in live-action, but aside from Fox's awful F4 movies and like...Space Jam, where else have stretchy limbs been done in live-action before? The Flash
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It looks like she does the embiggening arm punch a lot, the shot of her actually punching at like a martial artist guy is in some above ground subway station, and the shot of her retracting a punch is in a formal dance hall sort of thing. The punch shot itself is interesting too, you can see her hand and the bracelet inside the glowing purple stuff. I guess that lends credence to the notion that this was done at least partially because the CGI tech for straight up stretch powers isn't to their liking yet. Personally I love it. Connects her to the other two Marvels and looks great for TV.
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Yeah I kind of dig the way it connects her to Danvers and the Infinity Stones. It feels like it might be part of something bigger. Purple is the power stone. Wanda is red for reality stone. Carol is blue for space stone. Vision is still probably somewhere tied to the mind stone. With Adam Warlock confirmed I could see us getting an Infinity Watch or something and that theoretically drops Kamala right in the middle of it. But I never really read the comic so I’m admittedly not attached to the idea of what she is. So it’s easier for me to accept a change that fits the MCU more.
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Opopanax posted:The Flash the flash's powers look awful in the flash
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site posted:the flash's powers look awful in the flash The Elongated Man looks surprisingly good, however. Too bad the actor turned out to be a sex pest, the character was a breath of fresh air on the show when he showed up.
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Elongated Man mostly worked for me but they leaned into the kind of disturbing body horror of it. I doubt that’s the vibe they want for Ms Marvel. I imagine it might be more manageable with FF since the basic setup is that they’ve all been horrifically transformed.
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site posted:the flash's powers look awful in the flash It's incredible how much worse they've gotten over time.
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I guess my main concern at this point is that they try to backport this into the comics somehow. I'm not a fan of the power change but I can at least understand why they did it. If they decide to make it her definitive powerset from now on across all media then that's going to piss me off.
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