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Paladinus posted:Why is he calling himself Elona now? The white part is a translation of Kadyrov's message. I'm guessing the -a is to feminize Elon's name. Because while Kadyrov is a creative monster he's apparently a basic bitch at insults. And apparently doesn't see how easily it can be done to his name - Ladyrov Eeeeew I'm sad I typed that Edit: oh God terrible snype have some PENAIDs https://twitter.com/CAT_UXO/status/1503826576378630151?t=E8ejZKON3gPuOfAzcNWagw&s=19 They're advanced technology, why are you laughing?
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EscapeHere posted:What about shelling merchant shipping of NATO flagged vessels? russia straight up shot down an airliner in 2014 and killed 300 civilians. there is a LOT of space under the rug where we can sweep things and ignore them if we don't want to escalate a conflict
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Paladinus posted:Why is he calling himself Elona now? Ilona is a woman's name in Hungary and Finland. In Russian Elon Musk is written Ilon Mask.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Can't the russians just stay and terror bomb for a few months to get concessions at the negotiations? It's pretty obvious they don't give a gently caress about civilian lives, humanitarian warfare, Geneva or any convention. Look, I know this isn't going to be well received here but the only real comparison we have for civilian deaths during a modern full scale invasion is Shock and Awe in 2003. During the initial invasion, 21 days from March 20 - Apr 9, A Dossier on Civilian Casualties in Iraq, 2003-2005 puts the total number of civilian deaths as a direct result of US action at 6,616. For reference Iraq in 2003 had a population of about 25.5 million. If anyone can find contemporary death estimates for that time period I'd be grateful. The most updated number I can find for the Russian invasion is the OHCHR March 13 update which puts the death count at 636. March 13 would be 17 days into an invasion of a country with 44 million people. Of course that number is low, but I doubt it's off by a factor of 10 (pls don't quote me lol).
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Paladinus posted:Why is he calling himself Elona now? Because of that telegram post and because he's a peformative piece of poo poo
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Also it looks like this got missed last page - video of Zelensky meeting with the prime ministers from the EU/NATO https://twitter.com/ohsendit/status/1503836381021356033?t=jsGzCilKg99H_Rz6G6ppPw&s=19
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EscapeHere posted:What about shelling merchant shipping of NATO flagged vessels? If Russia is saying "hey we're doing a blockade here dudes, if you cross this line we will gently caress the ships up okay" and the ships go there anyway I don't think it will trigger article five.
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KitConstantine posted:And now in more loving stupid nonsense: Kadyrov is now feuding with Elon Musk If Kadyov or Putin end up having Elon Musk assassinated I will never stop laughing
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EscapeHere posted:What about shelling merchant shipping of NATO flagged vessels? No one-off incident is going to trigger Article 5. It will take a premeditated, concerted attack of significant size and duration onto the soil of a member state.
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Youth Decay posted:Has there ever been an amphibious assault directly into a major city? The tweets I've been seeing imply they are going for that as opposed to a beach somewhere that isn't, like, full of metal hedgehogs and people with big guns. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Inchon it wasn't heavily defended though
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TulliusCicero posted:If Kadyov or Putin end up having Elon Musk assassinated I will never stop laughing between picking a fight with kadyrov and threatening to kick putin's rear end we can assume that musk is REALLY not taking his polycule breakup with grimes very well
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Risky Bisquick posted:https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1503645513337516034 That looks like a SIM box. I've seen a lot of them used by people selling cheap VoIP calls. They are used to transfer VoIP calls to the GSM provider. Usually in a shifty way by buying for example 100 SIMs from a provider offering say 200 free minutes, and then you sell the minutes online to a VoIP provider at a decent price. The trick is to keep switching the SIMs as they get used up or banned.
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Deteriorata posted:No one-off incident is going to trigger Article 5. It will take a premeditated, concerted attack of significant size and duration onto the soil of a member state. While any member state could call up a meeting based on a single incident and request Art.5, it's unlikely that there would be a unanimous decision to go to war based on something minimal. Especially when the adversary is a nuclear state with the largest army in Europe, even if they're constantly testing the limit.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/kyiv-facing-dangerous-moment-amid-signs-of-russias-tightening-gripquote:Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy has acknowledged that Ukraine will not become a Nato member, in a significant concession on a day when Kyiv was pounded by Russian shells and missiles and the invading force tightened its grip on the capital. But what about EU membership?
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54.4 crowns posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/kyiv-facing-dangerous-moment-amid-signs-of-russias-tightening-grip Such a tight grip on the capital that the entire southern flank is open for travel to and from that even leaders from EU countries can come in for a stop. Same rag that published Bernie Sander's stupid take on the situation prior to Russia invading.
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54.4 crowns posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/kyiv-facing-dangerous-moment-amid-signs-of-russias-tightening-grip It’s less a Lilly and more him being a realist. It’s not new and not a concession. He’s been talking about NATO this way (you told us we could join then told us we couldn’t. You misled us.) for a bit now.
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Nenonen posted:While any member state could call up a meeting based on a single incident and request Art.5, it's unlikely that there would be a unanimous decision to go to war based on something minimal. Especially when the adversary is a nuclear state with the largest army in Europe, even if they're constantly testing the limit. Wait, article 5 requires unanimity ? So Russia could invade the Baltics and Orban can just veto it?
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54.4 crowns posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/kyiv-facing-dangerous-moment-amid-signs-of-russias-tightening-grip EU membership will probably be on the table long before NATO. The NATO issue is overblown, IMO. Zelinskyy was trying to use the invasion to make it happen very soon, while NATO is just sticking to its usual standards and timetable. NATO membership for Ukraine is just as possible now as it ever was. It's just going to take as long as it always has been expected to.
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Ok but hear me out, what if the Russians light a NATO flag on fire and throw it over the border into Poland? Wouldn't that immediately trigger Article 5 full-scale NATO nuking Russia? Seriously some of you make the ridiculous Pentagon briefing questions sound smart by comparison.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Such a tight grip on the capital that the entire southern flank is open for travel to and from that even leaders from EU countries can come in for a stop. But i've been hearing it from the The Telegraph some hours ago and now my own national media (NRK) is reporting the same thing.
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with a rebel yell she QQd posted:That looks like a SIM box. I've seen a lot of them used by people selling cheap VoIP calls. They are used to transfer VoIP calls to the GSM provider. Yep, they keep popping in sims and have what i assume is 3-4 voip -> gsm at 18-24 lines. All their troops seem to use GSM for communication now, which is getting scooped up by US SIGINT probably. https://twitter.com/ua_industrial/status/1503704922835103744/photo/1 Note the 2000s era Nokia
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This mini highway of hell is interesting insofar as these are the remnants of a Crimean division (Z in a box) https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1503831800510140425?cxt=HHwWksC-9cHD194pAAAA
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So looks like Ukraine took out a number of helicopters in the last couple of days Thread with satellite imagery https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1503836531273998340?t=6gyxwVH3zbvzxZP5KKuSRA&s=19 Smoke rising over the airport https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/1503837020912861184?t=R6rN3mPpe2-TGR7XBKZEtw&s=19 In bad news, Kharkiv is getting hit really hard tonight https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1503837504306577408?t=6zGEa1a-RDpTPxAGn5ChhA&s=19 Twitter space I'm currently listening to that has a bunch of people from Ukraine leading the conversation https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1OyJADooBNqGb
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Deteriorata posted:No one-off incident is going to trigger Article 5. It will take a premeditated, concerted attack of significant size and duration onto the soil of a member state. With Poland's PM literally face-to-face with Zelensky today, I imagine they are mulling over options such as Poland providing some form of direct support, perhaps SAM coverage for humanitarian corridors and supplies and trying to avoid dragging all of NATO in like with how the US did not drag NATO into Iraq because Iraq never attacked the US. Still risky as hell but if the Polish equipment stays in Ukraine then Russian counter-attacks would at least not be against Polish soil. Canadian here, our Conservative party did call for the No-Fly-Zone that Zelensky requested right after he spoke with our Parliament today. But they're not the party in power and I don't expect them to be anytime within the next 4 years. Plus we're Canada and not about to convince or coerce the rest of NATO to do anything beyond humanitarian assistance anytime this century.
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54.4 crowns posted:But i've been hearing it from the The Telegraph some hours ago and now my own national media (NRK) is reporting the same thing. You could just go on social media and ask Ukrainians in Kyiv. https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1503819240855453696?s=20&t=qyQ1FsNsfbFIzVRrjzoZaQ
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KitConstantine posted:The white part is a translation of Kadyrov's message. I'm guessing the -a is to feminize Elon's name. Because while Kadyrov is a creative monster he's apparently a basic bitch at insults. Ah, didn't see the last paragraph.
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:. Am only seeing that from Russian propaganda sources so far.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:You could just go on social media and ask Ukrainians in Kyiv. Not about the loving inabilities of them to take Kyiv, Ukraines glorius fight isn't about glory but to fight of living under a Putin regime.
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Blitz of 404 Error posted:. We already addressed this in CSPAM, it's a meme from Chinese social media that leaked onto Twitter. Walli actually died trying to suck his own dick.
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I could buy that he got killed, but killed 20 mins after arriving? By a spec ops team? What's the scenario they're claiming here, that the Russians both knew exactly where he would be and also have spec ops teams on hand in the middle of the besieged city?
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54.4 crowns posted:Not about the loving inabilities of them to take Kyiv, Ukraines glorius fight isn't about glory but to fight of living under a Putin regime. I don't know what you're talking about at this point.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I don't know what you're talking about at this point. Hahaha, I've also been trying to parse that post. No idea what the gently caress they're trying to say there.
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Looks like those crazy bastards are gonna try a landing at Odesa https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1503844630189727750?t=Fm3EFDZGeHB-LQmdGp4x-g&s=19 A night landing. In 2 degrees C water. Interesting strategy Cotton
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Gorman Thomas posted:Look, I know this isn't going to be well received here but the only real comparison we have for civilian deaths during a modern full scale invasion is Shock and Awe in 2003. What a relief for the surviving family of the hundreds of dead
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Shes Not Impressed posted:I don't know what you're talking about at this point. They were originally saying their local media was reporting on Zelenksyy giving up on NATO membership, not that the media was reporting a "seige" around Kyiv.
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Rectal Death Adept posted:What a relief for the surviving family of the hundreds of dead Yeah man that's definitely what i was trying to say, thanks
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Chalks posted:I could buy that he got killed, but killed 20 mins after arriving? By a spec ops team? What's the scenario they're claiming here, that the Russians both knew exactly where he would be and also have spec ops teams on hand in the middle of the besieged city? Russia is having a 'special operation', not *** which gets one jailed. So they all are 'special operation forces', doesn't mean Spetsnaz.
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Holy gently caress! That is a crazy explosion Looks like they put it after a big break or obstacle in the road so that it could only be triggered by a tank, not a car Shageletic posted:I hope that this is a good time for people to step back and dissociate propogandistic social media from actual gains in the field, and that tactical victories does not amount operational ones. Can you at least give an example of this happening? Quote someone? Anything except just 'look at all these unnamed naive dumbasses, unlike me  'I've read almost this entire thread and found everyone to have a pretty solid grasp of how things are going, to all indications. So I think this is some weird sniping that doesn't add anything and is something of a pattern. Charlotte Hornets posted:These Pentagon press briefings aren't worth anything. They also said they have no idea if any Americans are fighting as volunteers Here's a hint: they actually do have an idea and don't want to say  The briefings are actually pretty good, if only because they have proved quite trustworthy Blitz of 404 Error posted:Edit: tweet quoted a bad tweet Yeah that's bs to me, 'only twenty minutes after going into action' lmao as if the Russians know exactly what a single person in the opposing lines is doing at any given time. Just way too convenient as propaganda. He may be dead, I don't know, but if he is we'll know from an actual source soon enough.
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