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sneakyfrog posted:i mean maybe this is just my army brain talking here but is there no such thing as an illegal order where like "here lets drop bombs on refugees" you would be like uh gently caress you sir? The one conviction from Mỹ Lai did 3.5 years before the president commuted his sentence and has been living a comfy retirement in Florida.
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BoldFace posted:Great drone footage of a Russian tank being ambushed and destroyed.  Tank gets ambushed, track gets blown off, then another hit penetrates internally, crew tries to abandon, one of them gets blown up on the top of the tank. Looks like a second tank also got ambushed behind it
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psydude posted:The US process has you including the target and disposition (under cover, in the open). This would be called into the fire direction center, which will coordinate fires. Beyond that I'm not sure what gets passed down to the actual dudes manning the guns other than the type of ammunition and the other information they need to actually get the rounds on target. I was never FDC but I worked very closely with them downrange, IIRC the FDC doesn't give a target description to the gunline because that conversation is usually happening on a different frequency. The comms on the FDC channel follow a strict format that involves repeating everything back to each other so they don't make any mistakes. And because everyone on the gunline is either deaf or wearing earplugs, they all sound like this Here is the FM if anyone is thirsty for fires doctrine
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Hyrax Attack! posted:The one conviction from Mỹ Lai did 3.5 years before the president commuted his sentence and has been living a comfy retirement in Florida. We spent 20 years annihilating civilians with impunity on the absolute flimsiest intel imaginable, capping it off with a 10 civilian strike as we were leaving Kabul
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Stultus Maximus posted:Any idea how fast they can get AA batteries in place? amazon is usually like 2 day for amazon basic AA batteries, they're pretty good.
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CommieGIR posted:
gently caress man, just hit them with a javelin and put them out of their misery.
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psydude posted:gently caress man, just hit them with a javelin and put them out of their misery. This is supposedly further East where maybe Javelins are not as available. As someone else said, looks like standard RPG hits.
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CommieGIR posted:This is supposedly further East where maybe Javelins are not available. As someone else said, looks like standard RPG hits. I can't believe how far the guy from the second tank flew.
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GD_American posted:Gotta laugh that I associate Russian ATGMs with an early 2000s goon scat fetishist Wait what What's your av from? I'd ask elsewhere but I don't recognize you from anywhere else and I don't have search Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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psydude posted:I can't believe how far the guy from the second tank flew. Yeah I'll assume that was some stowed gear that landed 
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah I'll assume that was some stowed gear that landed Looked like a backpack to me. Thats my story, I'm sticking to that.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/tfqmg0/russian_ural_truck_ambushed_location_unknow/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Pretty wild footage of a close quarters ambush of a Russian troop truck, with headcam and drone footage. There's no gore but tagged it as it looks like the driver cab got hosed up, but the troops in the back seem to escape injury.
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Orlando Furioso posted:...but the troops in the back seem to escape injury. Well, before the video cuts out, at least.
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Alchenar posted:Swapping your legacy soviet S-300 for a shiny new Patriot battery is a really good deal and worth a little bit of a capabiltiy gap. Tiny Timbs posted:Well, before the video cuts out, at least. stealie72 fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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CommieGIR posted:This is supposedly further East where maybe Javelins are not as available. As someone else said, looks like standard RPG hits. The 2nd explosion after the crew starts to bail looks like it was from an IED. You can see a square of some kind where the explosion comes from, and it's gone after the smoke clears.  That square shape is where it comes from, and it's gone later. I just can't tell if it's on the road or hanging from the lampost.
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stealie72 posted:And creates shareholder value for Raytheon, a sure way to get the US government to make things happen. That's a couple dudes with bikes trying to GTFO
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wait what The Russian version is nicknamed "Metis"
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CommieGIR posted:
Well that was certainly something, though after that video this morning, I'm having trouble remembering the dudes in there may have been some poor guys press ganged in. Then again I can also equally imagine the that they were Grade-A assholes and the world was done a service. Thanks Russia, you found a way to dehumanize your own people.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wait what The art came from an avatar thread, I think in YOSPOS, years ago. I don't know where the original creator got the source material. The text is a phrase from Goodbye to All That.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Well that was certainly something, though after that video this morning, I'm having trouble remembering the dudes in there may have been some poor guys press ganged in. Then again I can also equally imagine the that they were Grade-A assholes and the world was done a service. Thanks Russia, you found a way to dehumanize your own people. I wonder how often they let conscripts drive the tanks, as opposed to handing them a single slice of bread, a 40 year old rifle with no sights, and 90 rounds of ammo, and cramming them in the back of a truck.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Thanks Russia, you found a way to dehumanize your own people. seriously this is like how do you separate the music from the artist conundrum. apologize for kramering into y'alls thread this morning but that video hosed me up a bit and i needed a not GBS or loving cspam perspective.
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Orlando Furioso posted:
https://twitter.com/Jake_Hanrahan/status/1504185625255292932?s=20&t=iHpMt5AcFbx1YbYhFmJLOA This clip has another 20 seconds (and music) to the start showing the ambushers pass some disabled transport trucks.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Well that was certainly something, though after that video this morning, I'm having trouble remembering the dudes in there may have been some poor guys press ganged in. Then again I can also equally imagine the that they were Grade-A assholes and the world was done a service. Thanks Russia, you found a way to dehumanize your own people. I don't think poor slobs getting pressganged would be driving tanks. The poor slobs getting pressganged were given a rifle and told to walk 'thattaway'
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sneakyfrog posted:i mean maybe this is just my army brain talking here but is there no such thing as an illegal order where like "here lets drop bombs on refugees" you would be like uh gently caress you sir? Apparently Russian forces 1) Aren't told what they're hitting with indirect fire or air strikes, they're just given a list of coordinates to hit, and 2) in any unit where there's direct fire or direct contact, there's literally a kommissar  whose job is to do exactly that to anyone who doesn't do what they're told.
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CainFortea posted:I wonder how often they let conscripts drive the tanks, as opposed to handing them a single slice of bread, a 40 year old rifle with no sights, and 90 rounds of ammo, and cramming them in the back of a truck. Well I always hear jokes about tankers being full of goofs, but that's the US and it's mostly from joking comes on here and Lion's Led By Donkey's (Joe is a former tanker). I would still think in general a conscript, well a Russian conscript (based on training and not "othering") is the last person you'd want to hand a tank off too. Then again they have demonstrated some amazingly dumb tactics. So in short  .sneakyfrog posted:seriously this is like how do you separate the music from the artist conundrum. Yeah, and unlike art it's making it harder to retain sympathy, even at large. Luckily I (and others goons) talk with a fellow collogue of the profession, who lives in Russia, hates everything there, will jump the border if he gets conscripted, so it helps. Also poor dude, due to having an education, would get conscripted as an Lt. and based on what my dad said about Lt's in Vietnam*) it's a job with a high attrition rate. *On the lighter side of things the reason they didn't and my dad (also realizing it would be a bad idea) failed a test on trig (he had gotten kicked out of HS and got his GED in the Marines). Then he just gave the Marines a very GiP treatment, he showed me an evaluation where they Commander is basically say that he doesn't care about the traditions or values of the Corp...something along there lines. He made sure to save it. He then left used the GI Bill to go to College and then went to Law School, the first in his family to graduated college and get a post grad degree.  I don't know if I need to say it, but I'm always extremely proud of having him as my...he's also not full of brainworms. I was saying it would be good if someone charged Tucker Carlson with being an unregistered foreign agent or getting his asskicked. The response of my dad (who is 75). "I'd would settle for kicking his rear end. He seems like a pussy." Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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lightpole posted:Probably means unnecessarily subjecting yourself to suffering and pain by watching it and isn't wrong according to the reactions from the thread. It exists for a reason, and there are some people who need to see it.
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A.o.D. posted:It exists for a reason, and there are some people who need to see it. No poo poo. It was put together to maximize the impact which means a lot of people in here should skip it why is this such a disaster point?
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https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1504124755376549897quote:Mr. Dombrovsky, the reconnaissance-unit commander, said he captured several soldiers in their early 20s and a 31-year-old senior lieutenant from the Russian military intelligence. The lieutenant, he said, had forced a private to swap uniforms but was discovered because of the age discrepancy—and because Ukrainian forces found Russian personnel files in the column’s command vehicle. lmao
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Yeah, and unlike art it's making it harder to retain sympathy, even at large. Luckily I (and others goons) talk with a fellow collogue of the profession, who lives in Russia, hates everything there, will jump the border if he gets conscripted, so it helps. Also poor dude, due to having an education, would get conscripted as an Lt. and based on what my dad said about Lt's in Vietnam*) it's a job with a high attrition rate. I've got a bunch of Russian colleagues and friends, took 4 semesters of Russian for fun in university, and think Russia has a rich history and fascinating culture. So with that all being said: in the brutal zero-sum calculus of warfare, it's either those guys, or more kids in a maternity ward. Unfortunately a mad man in the Kremlin decided to play chess with their lives, and there's nothing positive about any of it.
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When was the last time any state experienced this level of armor loss in combat? A friend who is ex-Army suggested either Gulf War 1 or WW2, and I'm inclined to agree. Also, how many armor losses did the US take during our 20 years in Useless Dirt?
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:https://twitter.com/ZcohenCNN/status/1504161424267952136?t=LoK06X_nSYDOtQpNQGbPpg&s=19 "we're gonna get those back right...right?"
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:When was the last time any state experienced this level of armor loss in combat? A friend who is ex-Army suggested either Gulf War 1 or WW2, and I'm inclined to agree. Iran-Iraq war, maybe? My dad worked with a guy who was a tank commander during that war and was ejected from the turret when they took a direct hit. He survived with a broken arm, said gently caress Iran, and moved to the US to engineer roads. The rest of his crewmates weren't as lucky.
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Alan Smithee posted:"we're gonna get those back right...right?" They'll come back as Patriot batteries.
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When you're afraid S1 shop is going to lose your poo poo
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Monsters https://twitter.com/asamiterajima/status/1504208042480570372?s=21
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:When was the last time any state experienced this level of armor loss in combat? A friend who is ex-Army suggested either Gulf War 1 or WW2, and I'm inclined to agree. Subquestion when was the last time FOUR loving GENERALS got wasted in less than a month?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Subquestion when was the last time FOUR loving GENERALS got wasted in less than a month? https://twitter.com/4n4lisis/status/1504008208578494476?s=21 It’s amazing how after reading the idiots read for so long that somehow Russia’s making American officers look like geniuses.
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