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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Subquestion when was the last time FOUR loving GENERALS got wasted in less than a month? You’re gonna have to use a different euphemism when talking about Russian generals
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Graphic photo in the quoted tweet, but only if you click on it. I read somewhere that there around 20 Russian MGs assigned to units at the start of the invasion, meaning that Russia has lost 20% of its division commanders in less than 3 weeks of fighting.
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Mar 16, 2022 22:43
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psydude posted:I read somewhere that there around 20 Russian MGs assigned to units at the start of the invasion, meaning that Russia has lost 20% of its division commanders in less than 3 weeks of fighting. their new doctrine is to throw division commanders into the fray instead of privates
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Mar 16, 2022 22:44
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:their new doctrine is to throw division commanders into the fray instead of privates would certainly help in the global PR dept
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Mar 16, 2022 22:47
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Tiny Timbs posted:You’re gonna have to use a different euphemism when talking about Russian generals Four pizdec generals?
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Mar 16, 2022 22:53
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A.o.D. posted:Four pizdec generals? They're implying that a lot more than 4 russian generals get "wasted" 
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Mar 16, 2022 22:58
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So genuine question. Apparently the Ukrainians are using standard commercial drones with cameras to fly around and locate Russian command posts and encampments, and that information is then used for artillery strikes, and/or getting wild footage of these areas getting lit up. What kind of deterrents can be used to combat this? I can't imagine it's cost effective to target relatively cheap commercial drones with expensive anti-air weapons.
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Mar 16, 2022 23:01
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Anonymous Zebra posted:So genuine question. Apparently the Ukrainians are using standard commercial drones with cameras to fly around and locate Russian command posts and encampments, and that information is then used for artillery strikes, and/or getting wild footage of these areas getting lit up. What kind of deterrents can be used to combat this? I can't imagine it's cost effective to target relatively cheap commercial drones with expensive anti-air weapons. Jamming ISM band communications, or those registered bands that are used for larger commercial drones. The US had portable SDR jamming devices used to disrupt cellphone communications in Afghanistan and Iraq, for example.
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Mar 16, 2022 23:04
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Anonymous Zebra posted:So genuine question. Apparently the Ukrainians are using standard commercial drones with cameras to fly around and locate Russian command posts and encampments, and that information is then used for artillery strikes, and/or getting wild footage of these areas getting lit up. What kind of deterrents can be used to combat this? I can't imagine it's cost effective to target relatively cheap commercial drones with expensive anti-air weapons. I doubt a SAM could even target a small commercial drone, even if they had any gas to run them. I don't think they use flak cannons anymore either so it would be down to massed machine gun fire or maybe snipers? Depends on how close the commercial drones needs to get.
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Mar 16, 2022 23:04
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Graphic photo in the quoted tweet, but only if you click on it. Oh poo poo the 150th are the dudes who took the Reichstag.
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Mar 16, 2022 23:05
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Joke Miriam posted:Oh poo poo the 150th are the dudes who took the Reichstag. Now they can't take a Gruppestag
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Mar 16, 2022 23:06
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Theres companies like Whitefox that have solutions already, from jamming or hijacking, to using birds of prey.
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Mar 16, 2022 23:07
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https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1504194054585831429?s=20&t=nOT7wuirxmt7f1BWaWUKUg
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you can also use these big dorky syfy channel looking things :quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/mco/LZ3D5DZY7ZA7VDBI2COYFVA3NY.png)   /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/52077475/DroneShield_Footage_Stills09_Final__1_.0.png)  
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Anonymous Zebra posted:So genuine question. Apparently the Ukrainians are using standard commercial drones with cameras to fly around and locate Russian command posts and encampments, and that information is then used for artillery strikes, and/or getting wild footage of these areas getting lit up. What kind of deterrents can be used to combat this? I can't imagine it's cost effective to target relatively cheap commercial drones with expensive anti-air weapons. There are anti-drone guns. Some use jamming signals and other things to gently caress with their controls and drop them. Others are net cannons. Birds of prey have also been used. Here's a video with some things in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5DlAZ20-hw
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1504194054585831429?s=20&t=nOT7wuirxmt7f1BWaWUKUg I bet this is more Russian fuckery, tbh, to try to drag them into the war.
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https://twitter.com/ckoettl/status/1504182123531485187 damnit. drat them.
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Alan Smithee posted:you can also use these big dorky syfy channel looking things Why use ali express toys when you can justify spending on falcons?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:their new doctrine is to throw division commanders into the fray instead of privates "When the general in front of you falls, pick up his rank and continue forward. When you fall, the lieutenant behind you will pick up the rank, and continue forward."
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Mar 16, 2022 23:25
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Anonymous Zebra posted:So genuine question. Apparently the Ukrainians are using standard commercial drones with cameras to fly around and locate Russian command posts and encampments, and that information is then used for artillery strikes, and/or getting wild footage of these areas getting lit up. What kind of deterrents can be used to combat this? I can't imagine it's cost effective to target relatively cheap commercial drones with expensive anti-air weapons. Javelins are the traditional approach - here's one being used to knock down a Russian drone : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOnjlyZf6LE
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Thanks for the answers. Somehow I doubt the Russian front-lines are carrying this type of equipment from the number of drone videos that keep popping up.G1mby posted:Javelins are the traditional approach - here's one being used to knock down a Russian drone : Okay, this is the best answer.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Thanks for the answers. Somehow I doubt the Russian front-lines are carrying this type of equipment from the number of drone videos that keep popping up. they didn't even bring enough *food*
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:"When the general in front of you falls, pick up his rank and continue forward. When you fall, the lieutenant behind you will pick up the rank, and continue forward." I like the term my dad had for it: “Equality at the front.” He also said that the troops at the front probably appreciate it. 
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:"When the general in front of you falls, pick up his rank and continue forward. When you fall, the lieutenant behind you will pick up the rank, and continue forward." Now I want to play Shadow of Ukraine
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raminasi posted:The art came from an avatar thread, I think in YOSPOS, years ago. I don't know where the original creator got the source material. The text is a phrase from Goodbye to All That.
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A.o.D. posted:https://twitter.com/ckoettl/status/1504182123531485187 The City Council had reported that 11,000 civilians had been able to leave the city earlier in the day, so maybe the theater wasn't as crowded as previously? Faint hope, I know.
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Russian propaganda is now saying that the theatre and maternity hospital were both nazi false flags to serve some purpose that I cannot divine.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/16/russia-ukraine-war-news-zelensky-live-updates/#link-JYZ3EMBELVFHJNJQ4DOO7OZMZA Russia has lost 10% of its pre-invasion forces and has now committed 70% of its total battalion tactical groups (that is, across its entire military) to Ukraine. psydude fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 16, 2022 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:Russian propaganda is now saying that the theatre and maternity hospital were both nazi false flags to serve some purpose that I cannot divine. Giving C-SPAM types more talking points.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Russian propaganda is now saying that the theatre and maternity hospital were both nazi false flags to serve some purpose that I cannot divine. "if they weren't nazis they wouldn't have gotten in the way of Russian bombs, " presumably. Remember that for this crowd "Nazi" and "anti-Russian" are synonyms.
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psydude posted:I read somewhere that there around 20 Russian MGs assigned to units at the start of the invasion, meaning that Russia has lost 20% of its division commanders in less than 3 weeks of fighting. That’s what happens when your officer corp is deliberately filled with morons; as opposed to just America where it’s more a function of officers then deliberate policy. But still that’s insane. I mean The wood minister I mean minister of the defense l would probably never show up l anywhere, but the most tightly controlled areas in Ukraine, because somebody would probably be able to pop them.
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Do they just like not have any ncos at all?
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Marshal Prolapse posted:https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1504194054585831429?s=20&t=nOT7wuirxmt7f1BWaWUKUg https://twitter.com/TobyWBlack/status/1504209878289682436?s=20&t=9NavRRDYvUVI_Cp-fq5c3Q This could be big, if true. "How to isolate yourself from the world and lose your stooge regimes in 30 days or less"? Arrath fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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psydude posted:I read somewhere that there around 20 Russian MGs assigned to units at the start of the invasion, meaning that Russia has lost 20% of its division commanders in less than 3 weeks of fighting. There's probably a misunderstanding somewhere in there. Russians use the "eastern" system where the general ranks start with MG, instead of the "western" system where the first general rank is Brigadier. So Russian MG is equivalent to OF-6, and leads a brigade. Divisions are led by LGs. I'd expect there to be ~60 russian MGs on the field.
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sneakyfrog posted:Do they just like not have any ncos at all?
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I don't think it's a coup Other reporting saying it was sonic booms and live fire exercises. NAU is just being loud with their views I suspect. We'd be getting a lot more chatter if it were a coup
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Tuna-Fish posted:There's probably a misunderstanding somewhere in there. Russians use the "eastern" system where the general ranks start with MG, instead of the "western" system where the first general rank is Brigadier. So Russian MG is equivalent to OF-6, and leads a brigade. Divisions are led by LGs. I'd expect there to be ~60 russian MGs on the field. 56 now
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So basically and please correct me if I'm wrong, the boogyman from my childhood has nukes but proper small unit tactics breaks the poo poo out of them. Cool cool. Glad I practiced hiding under my desk in school
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sneakyfrog posted:Do they just like not have any ncos at all? The Russian army still inherits part of the Soviet military organization, which was based around having a large army of conscripts and reserves. Because of that, they weren't planning on having senior NCOs hanging around in the army for 20 years, the regular army training pipeline doesn't support that. So the jobs you'd expect to see given to those senior NCOs are given to lower officer grades, who have correspondingly less authority.
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From the Wall Street Journal article linked upthread https://archive.ph/1nPmH#selection-2089.0-2089.384quote:Mr. Dombrovsky, the reconnaissance-unit commander, said he captured several soldiers in their early 20s and a 31-year-old senior lieutenant from the Russian military intelligence. The lieutenant, he said, had forced a private to swap uniforms but was discovered because of the age discrepancy—and because Ukrainian forces found Russian personnel files in the column’s command vehicle.
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