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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


It takes some restraint to not respond "because they're making more money than ever before and they know you'll pay it because you have every other time they jacked up the prices" every time a customer asks why our prices have gone up. They've stopped even trying to give us an official reason to give to customers.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
We found out in the UK under lockdown that there were two sets of beef prices, one for supermarkets and regular butchers and another for McDonald's and their ilk. Once these fast food places were shut the meat industry was forced to sell at real value to the general public and in an instant beef prices halved.


McDonald's isn't doing too well now and it's all because everyone, no matter the political belief, was able to figure out that they were subsiding them.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Mcdonalds is loving raking it in right now at least on a franchise level, our store is breaking sales records constantly. Being one of the first places to reopen in 2020 meant they were able to get a lot of people who wouldn't usually go there through the doors just because they were there. Also they were front and center on the "we're protecting our staff" PR tour while sending out emails saying not to enforce mask requirements because it would scare customers off. Then they wonder why they can't retain staff when almost every new hire ends up catching covid within 1-2 months of starting and decides gently caress this and leaves.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

You know, it's one thing to have a customer swipe something edible, eat half of it, and leave what remains shoved behind other merch. It's another thing when it's a box of sugar. My cashier and I both went full :confused: tonight over that. I'm assuming someone dumped some into a plastic bag and walked out, but that's still a first.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

symbolic posted:

You know, it's one thing to have a customer swipe something edible, eat half of it, and leave what remains shoved behind other merch. It's another thing when it's a box of sugar. My cashier and I both went full :confused: tonight over that. I'm assuming someone dumped some into a plastic bag and walked out, but that's still a first.

This poo poo drives me crazy. We have bins around the store for people to throw rubbish in; if you’re going to steal at least loving finish the thing and throw the wrapper in the bin.

Last week someone took a bottle of chocolate milk; took a swig, and then threw the bottle sans lid upside down into the fridge. Now there is chocolate milk all through that fridge

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

The Lord Bude posted:

This poo poo drives me crazy. We have bins around the store for people to throw rubbish in; if you’re going to steal at least loving finish the thing and throw the wrapper in the bin.

Last week someone took a bottle of chocolate milk; took a swig, and then threw the bottle sans lid upside down into the fridge. Now there is chocolate milk all through that fridge

I'm the shithead who casually steals and eats food inside the supermarket, but is also considerate enough to make sure to put the rest in a trash can.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The Lord Bude posted:

This poo poo drives me crazy. We have bins around the store for people to throw rubbish in; if you’re going to steal at least loving finish the thing and throw the wrapper in the bin.

Last week someone took a bottle of chocolate milk; took a swig, and then threw the bottle sans lid upside down into the fridge. Now there is chocolate milk all through that fridge

One of my high school classmates was a general shithead and would do things like go to Walmart, poke a hole in a can of motor oil, and stuff it behind a shelf where it would make a giant mess just for the hell of it. I caught him skulking around the grocery store I worked at after class a couple of times and would make sure to loudly greet him by name, which resulted in him scooting right back out the door shortly afterwards. Naturally he became a policeman in Chicago after graduation.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
During my stint as a grovery store clerk, I would find packed meat in the shelves while putting away go-backs every day. Just a bigass package of pork that had been left on the shelf with the chips.

ssb
Feb 16, 2006

WOULD YOU ACCOMPANY ME ON A BRISK WALK? I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU!!


Volmarias posted:

I'm the shithead who casually steals and eats food inside the supermarket, but is also considerate enough to make sure to put the rest in a trash can.

I've occasionally opened and drank a soda (or whatever) in a store but I've always paid for it with the rest of whatever I bought.

Technically not OK, but I only got yelled at once and I sure as poo poo never cared about that when I worked retail, and I'm still paying for it.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

shortspecialbus posted:

I've occasionally opened and drank a soda (or whatever) in a store but I've always paid for it with the rest of whatever I bought.

Technically not OK, but I only got yelled at once and I sure as poo poo never cared about that when I worked retail, and I'm still paying for it.

Having done that every time I went to the grocery store with my dad as a kid, I don't really care either. Either you pay for it and we're all good, or you walk out with it and the minuscule amount of shrink means I can't be bothered to mention it to LP if any of my associates actually saw you. :v:

Though that did remind me of the time when I was an associate at Staples and just came off my break. I was heading back up front to register with a Monster in hand and the rear end in a top hat tech supe who no one liked saw me, and cut herself off mid-sentence while talking to two customers to whirl around, jab a finger toward me, and shout "DRINK! DRINK!!" I assume she thought I was going to be walking around with it, which would make sense...if I wasn't chained to register that day, and if she wasn't the one who came up to it earlier to tell me to take my break. :cripes:

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Last night was stupid. Literally started before I left my apartment with my days counterpart warning me about some of the mess going on. Then as I pull up someone starts sending me chime messages thinking I'm an assistant manager since I'm admin in one of the chime groups (It was a chime group for my department before it was expanded to cover everything training for the entire shift, so I'm grandfathered in).

Get to my station and find out that yeah, all the stuff my days counterpart warned me about is just as bad if not worse as she said. First of all the radio is possessed and the normal channel I'm on is making funny noises and unusable. Any time someone wants to talk their voice just cuts out. I suspect some walkie-talkie is sitting on a charger with the transmit button stuck on. Eventually everyone moves to take over a less used channel. In the meantime FLOW has decided we're doing ALL the Tranship tonight. ALL of it. As in I've never seen this much work going down that line since the holiday peak...when we actually had the staffing to handle this much work.

So for probably a full third of the shift the Tranship line is overloaded. Every time it goes down all of the pack work that backed up explodes and blows out their lines, only to die down for more Tranship to fill the router I mange. It's loving exhausting.

Then for about an hour almost all of the laptops people use for problem solve lose connection with the wifi and become useless. And as they come back online a new issue has arisen! Both of the AFE sorters are not accepting totes from the tote sorter (my sorter). But it's not showing up in the information I'm digging up anywhere: everything is showing off as good on the readouts as more and more work recirculates. Apparently the router thinks its sorting the shipments but not physically sorting them so all the AFE lines say they have 15-20 totes in them but physically there's nothing because the work is still on the main router. Meanwhile Singles and Tranship can't get their work because the AFE work won't leave the router so we're shut down for an hour as that mess is figured out.

TLDR: loving clown factory's haunted.

Oolb
Nov 18, 2019
Why does it seem like every retail company is completely out their mind loving stupid? Like seriously, no retail company I've ever worked for was anything other than a shambling mess functioning because of a few good ideas. Also it's amazing how people will continue to shop at these stores just because of the brand. It's like nobody looks at what they're buying they just care about the packaging. Well I'm SICK of it! I'm downright SICK of it!

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Oolb posted:

Why does it seem like every retail company is completely out their mind loving stupid?

New thread title.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Oolb posted:

Why does it seem like every retail company is completely out their mind loving stupid? Like seriously, no retail company I've ever worked for was anything other than a shambling mess functioning because of a few good ideas. Also it's amazing how people will continue to shop at these stores just because of the brand. It's like nobody looks at what they're buying they just care about the packaging. Well I'm SICK of it! I'm downright SICK of it!

because profits need to happen NOW!

I've been training dogs at my store for a decade now and I've watched it slowly get worse and worse. It honestly used to be a fun job. We had someone who's sole job was taking care of the animals. That's all they did, came in every day and fully cleaned the cages, checked the health, all that good stuff. That position was eliminated, the cashiers can do it. We used to have a manager position that was in charge of all of our dog and cat products and another that was just concerned with general inventory that were combined into a single position. It's still the work of two people, but now one person has to do all of it. I've watched almost all our part time positions get eliminated, so now if there's a call in, we have no one to cover that absence because no one wants to come in on their day off when they're full time. Then with covid, they went big time on online orders, ship from store, curbside, and instead of giving us new staff to handle these new duties, we just have to do it. I remember the store being faced every night, back in the day. I remember our floors being swept and mopped every night. I remember our entire backroom stock being fully worked through every two days, but from eliminating positions, cutting hours, and adding new responsibilities, our store looks like poo poo and everyone is stressed out and overworked. Plus our AM is a micromanaging piece of poo poo who has single handedly destroyed the sense of comradery that used to be there.

I'm somewhat insulated from this since I'm the dog trainer and off in my own little area, plus having switched to private lessons instead of group classes with covid (something I had wanted to do for years) had me going from one or two classes a day to 6 classes a day. But it's sad that the company is killing this store.

Yak Shaves Dot Com
Jan 5, 2009
Realizing too late that exponential growth is impossible to sustain.

On the food subject, for months I came in every Sunday morning to find one or two chubs of ground beef in the tofu case. Meat was fine, but it was there every Sunday, early morning. Not someone making a snap decision between veg or not, just spending their Saturday night trying to Own the Libs.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Soonmot posted:

so now if there's a call in, we have no one to cover that absence because no one wants to come in on their day off when they're full time.

This is happening with my place too, the schedule is made under the assumption that everyone will be there so even one sick person throws off the entire shift. Of course with all covid protections now dropped people are getting sick quite regularly and often. This is in addition to the more specialised positions like opening and closing and overnights at the weekend being basically set up to only have exactly how many people trained as they need which then throws poo poo off when someone is taking a week off. I had the scheduling manager call me last week practically begging me to work this week which was meant to be a week off (and the last week I can take this week of allowance before it all resets next week), so I ended up agreeing to work 2 days so long as I still got all 5 days of holiday pay as well.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

njsykora posted:

This is happening with my place too, the schedule is made under the assumption that everyone will be there so even one sick person throws off the entire shift.

lol, backup plans? a little bit of give and flexibility in planning??? that costs dollero moneys!!! can't have that!!!! just take the youngest, dumbest sales person, offer them a salaried position with extremely minor benefits(no raise, ofc.) and then use them to cover every gap because they're not more expensive!!! do they complain??? play on their ill-informed ambition and poorly-grounded loyalty to the franchise!!!

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Boss: "What's the status of Machine 2?"
Me: "Still hosed."
Boss: "Gonna need more detail than that. ETA?"
Me: "RME Manager is getting close and personal to have a 1-on-1 with the damaged component."
Boss: "???"
Me:
Boss: "Ah...it'll be a while, got it."
Me: "I think worse comes to worse they'll have him manually cut the packages."
Boss: "LOL"

Saw the dude crawling into the SmartPac machine last night and was all "Holy poo poo, I gotta get a pic of this."

Ashye
Jul 29, 2013

Alkydere posted:


TLDR: loving clown factory's haunted.

I hear fire is a great cleanser of the haunted.

Alkydere posted:


Saw the dude crawling into the SmartPac machine last night and was all "Holy poo poo, I gotta get a pic of this."

Top tier exit strategy, just mail yourself out!

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Ashye posted:

I hear fire is a great cleanser of the haunted.

Top tier exit strategy, just mail yourself out!

To become better at shipping, one must BECOME shipping.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Found another package in the parcel collection box that's supposed to be shipped via FedEx Ground. The fate of that package is thay it will sit in the back of my office for weeks, because the FedEx driver that comes to pick up returns never ever checks the mountain of packages we have that don't have postage on them that are supposed to be handled by FedEx Ground or Express themselves.

Now, I don't know what it is that makes USPS a drop-off location for Newgistics, UPS Mail Inmovations, and FedEx Smartpost returns or what it is that differentiates them from the others, but god fuckin drat it says right on the label where to take it.

Now that person isn't going to get their refund because they're illiterate and punished for it. At least the UPS driver checks the APC we leave that stuff in every day.

Anyway, folks, if you have a return to ship, read the label or else your package might not ever get back to the warehouse it needs to for your refund to get processed.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

Star Man posted:

Found another package in the parcel collection box that's supposed to be shipped via FedEx Ground. The fate of that package is thay it will sit in the back of my office for weeks, because the FedEx driver that comes to pick up returns never ever checks the mountain of packages we have that don't have postage on them that are supposed to be handled by FedEx Ground or Express themselves.

Now, I don't know what it is that makes USPS a drop-off location for Newgistics, UPS Mail Inmovations, and FedEx Smartpost returns or what it is that differentiates them from the others, but god fuckin drat it says right on the label where to take it.

Now that person isn't going to get their refund because they're illiterate and punished for it. At least the UPS driver checks the APC we leave that stuff in every day.

Anyway, folks, if you have a return to ship, read the label or else your package might not ever get back to the warehouse it needs to for your refund to get processed.

Some years ago I was driving in our downtown on a weekend, so most of the convention halls were booked up, but there was no foot traffic outside. Good thing there was no car traffic either, because this dumb bitch comes RUNNING at my work van, in heels, waving a box. She almost runs into the work van, because I'm at a red light, and when I lower the window for her, she almost throws the box in.

Unlucky for her, the box is small and doesn't quite make it. She begs me to take it, but I have to explain, with the window now raised, that I don't work for that company and can't. I drive off, feeling bad because she is just standing there in the street, looking dejected, and made sure she didn't see how close I was to my work drop, because I didn't want her following the van.

I mean, I could have, in theory, taken it, but I am not gonna be responsible for someone's package when I can't prove I have it.

In other news, COVID is over so my boss wants me to take a new driver on training this Thursday. I already told her he needs to be masked. We'll see if he forgets his mask or tries to keep it under his nose.

Oolb
Nov 18, 2019
Look, I do my job. I do it good. That's good. That's it. Okay? Okay. Good.

Oolb fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Mar 23, 2022

Oolb
Nov 18, 2019
I don't know why I'm the one being made to feel insane for absolutely hating the gently caress out of retail, doubly so for recognizing that retail is poison to your mind, body, and spirit. Not that I've even said much more than a passing UGH. Like, I guess if my co-workers work really hard, and kiss up, they could gain some valuable experience. I mean, retail's management is a hard position, it could teach valuable people skills, right? I guess, idk. What I don't get is why they expect me to act like I love the company. Why? I'm polite enough about it, I do my job, what's the point pretending that I love it so much? I'm a good worker, better than uh, let's say 75-85 percent of workers you might hire. Am I just being a bitch? (Yes, because I'm not a Zen professional enough but goddamn is it hard). I see it in my eyes, i'm dead inside. (okay, dying - not to be so dramatic)

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.

Oolb fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Mar 24, 2022

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

Oolb posted:

I don't know why I'm the one being made to feel insane for absolutely hating the gently caress out of retail, doubly so for recognizing that retail is poison to your mind, body, and spirit. Not that I've even said much more than a passing UGH. Like, I guess if my co-workers work really hard, and kiss up, they could gain some valuable experience. I mean, retail's management is a hard position, it could teach valuable people skills, right? I guess, idk. What I don't get is why they expect me to act like I love the company. Why? I'm polite enough about it, I do my job, what's the point pretending that I love it so much? I'm a good worker, better than uh, let's say 75-85 percent of workers you might hire. Am I just being a bitch? (Yes, because I'm not a Zen professional enough but goddamn is it hard). I see it in my eyes, i'm dead inside. (okay, dying - not to be so dramatic)

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.

A lot of people deseperately want to believe the bullshit they hear. When I worked retail, there was definitely a split in the store between the people who were clearly just there because it was a job, and the Flavoraide drinkers who truly believed in the Old Navy Vision.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Oolb posted:

I don't know why I'm the one being made to feel insane for absolutely hating the gently caress out of retail, doubly so for recognizing that retail is poison to your mind, body, and spirit. Not that I've even said much more than a passing UGH. Like, I guess if my co-workers work really hard, and kiss up, they could gain some valuable experience. I mean, retail's management is a hard position, it could teach valuable people skills, right? I guess, idk. What I don't get is why they expect me to act like I love the company. Why? I'm polite enough about it, I do my job, what's the point pretending that I love it so much? I'm a good worker, better than uh, let's say 75-85 percent of workers you might hire. Am I just being a bitch? (Yes, because I'm not a Zen professional enough but goddamn is it hard). I see it in my eyes, i'm dead inside. (okay, dying - not to be so dramatic)

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.


You are more valuable than the job itself, they are hard to find, but there are better jobs out there, so if you are not happy and/or being treated poorly, just do the bare minimum and use the job to float you cost of living wise until you find something better.

Easier said than done, but the job market is still in a huge flux , so it is a better than normal time to look at non retail options. What that looks like depends on what type of work you would prefer.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

Neito posted:

A lot of people deseperately want to believe the bullshit they hear. When I worked retail, there was definitely a split in the store between the people who were clearly just there because it was a job, and the Flavoraide drinkers who truly believed in the Old Navy Vision.

The latter often becomes the former. When I started at (Dollar Tree/Subway/Safeway) I expected much more than reality. I didn't have the power to change jack gently caress so eventually I got to the point where my baseline was recognized as being good at my job and stopped there. At Dollar Tree, that was just being a closer. At Subway, it was being a closer/keyholder and then an opener. Safeway, it was running the deli from 5p until close 6 days a week (because the union didn't consider Sunday part of the normal work week).

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Oolb posted:

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.

Man I certainly know that feeling.

Neito posted:

A lot of people deseperately want to believe the bullshit they hear. When I worked retail, there was definitely a split in the store between the people who were clearly just there because it was a job, and the Flavoraide drinkers who truly believed in the Old Navy Vision.

It's also worth considering that companies actively encourage these feelings because they know that it's cheaper to pay people with a pat on the back than with actual money. It's a practice called "stroking" and it's insanely obvious when you're aware of it, it's often targeted at younger employees, very calculatedly also at ones that may have a poor home life and lack a sense of belonging or self worth. For instance, they massively hooked one of my coworkers with it because he feels like a loser(he's actually one of our more competent people) who'll never manage anything else education/career-wise, so they convinced him that his only hope was to impress The Company, because he loved The Company for giving him a chance to be something inside The Company.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

PurpleXVI posted:

Man I certainly know that feeling.

It's also worth considering that companies actively encourage these feelings because they know that it's cheaper to pay people with a pat on the back than with actual money. It's a practice called "stroking" and it's insanely obvious when you're aware of it, it's often targeted at younger employees, very calculatedly also at ones that may have a poor home life and lack a sense of belonging or self worth. For instance, they massively hooked one of my coworkers with it because he feels like a loser(he's actually one of our more competent people) who'll never manage anything else education/career-wise, so they convinced him that his only hope was to impress The Company, because he loved The Company for giving him a chance to be something inside The Company.

I mean for sure. It's an abuse tactic, and it works, and it can be scary how effective it is. Even now that I'm in an office job, you can watch and see the stroking and love-bombing and even when you're fully aware of what's going on it's scary to feel that pull of "Man, I want to be on that presentation getting an award".

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
It's so nice to be in a corporate job where I don't get stroked but once or twice a year. I'm not in the office to be stroked, I'm like the only full-time remote employee in the whole company. Even when I do get stroked, I take it with a grain of salt. I do my hour-ish of work in an 8 hour day and devote the other 7 to shitposting and advancing my Python knowledge to maybe leverage it into something better either at this company or another.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve



it's just so drat slimy.

like, right off the bat they say that the union sacrificed <5% of a wage investment for their benefits (well, not outright saying it was to keep benefits but it's a given because that's what unions do!) as if it's a bad thing or something.

Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 24, 2022

Domus
May 7, 2007

Kidney Buddies
“The fact is that the union’s claim has not been founded to be true”. Also, yesterday, we wented to the store and sawed the people. I don’t get the feeling anyone edited that.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Yeah I'm pretty sure the person who wrote that is just three Salacious Crumbs in a trench coat.

Like, on the first point if someone even did a little digging they would find that the increased ~*~*~*~investment~*~*~*~ in wages would come at the cost of

1) the company increasing the minimum hours one would need to work to qualify for benefits

2) the company being allowed to hire gig workers which would basically launch job security into the perpetually crushing, burning, blackness of the atmospheres of Saturn where it would never escape.

3) people would automatically take a pay hit when changing departments (which I read as basically someone having to start at the bottom of the pay scale when they move departments or step down from a department position (grocery to GM for
example.))

4) and finally only some people would get raises while others got cuts.

You know, I understand that Kroger alone isn't responsible for everything being more expensive and that wages being increased probably won't solve even half of the problems with the cost of living, but if McMullen is making $20M then we can get a bigger slice. If I'm making $.14 per $1 they make on my labor then they can give me more money. Plus, as most people know already, poor people spend money when they have enough, and since Kroger employees do a lot of shopping at Kroger stores Kroger is just going to get a lot of that money back. I'd probably contribute more to paying off debt and probably buying something a little more healthy than Del Taco drive through and cereal and I'd probably do it after work before I leave since I'm supremely lazy.


Oolb posted:

I don't know why I'm the one being made to feel insane for absolutely hating the gently caress out of retail, doubly so for recognizing that retail is poison to your mind, body, and spirit. Not that I've even said much more than a passing UGH. Like, I guess if my co-workers work really hard, and kiss up, they could gain some valuable experience. I mean, retail's management is a hard position, it could teach valuable people skills, right? I guess, idk. What I don't get is why they expect me to act like I love the company. Why? I'm polite enough about it, I do my job, what's the point pretending that I love it so much? I'm a good worker, better than uh, let's say 75-85 percent of workers you might hire. Am I just being a bitch? (Yes, because I'm not a Zen professional enough but goddamn is it hard). I see it in my eyes, i'm dead inside. (okay, dying - not to be so dramatic)

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.

You might beat yourself up about not being one with the universe when you're being kicked around by assholes but just keep in mind that you're really not losing your mind at all.

This doesn't address any of your points specifically, but my philosophy lately is that I am in the business of selling stuff to people who need it (food, the conveniences of living in a society etc) and my cruel overlords are in the business of making money. Their whole reason for being is to make the numbers go up. Some of them innovate because it's their job and since the process can only be streamlined so much within the confines of their business model they end up selling their bosses on poo poo that on paper looks smart but in practice either doesn't make sense or makes things worse, and that's maddening to people who actually do the work. No matter how well someone can maintain their cool there's always that point at which you just want to say "gently caress it" and leave. People might not give a poo poo and we might be the least cunning primates but even the most dull of us can see when something is just not worth doing. My theory is that it's just basic biological instincts. Why waste energy on something dumb instead of idk living or not stressing yourself out? And in turn how is this bullshit not supposed to drive you mad?

It's got to be by design imo.

Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Mar 24, 2022

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
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didn't someone in here just quit retail? I feel like I missed an opportunity for another "Now That's What I Call Retail 20XX" post but I've been busy with life, and Elden Ring swallowed my free time

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

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D34THROW posted:

It's so nice to be in a corporate job where I don't get stroked but once or twice a year. I'm not in the office to be stroked, I'm like the only full-time remote employee in the whole company. Even when I do get stroked, I take it with a grain of salt. I do my hour-ish of work in an 8 hour day and devote the other 7 to shitposting and advancing my Python knowledge to maybe leverage it into something better either at this company or another.

IDK about you but I work tech and it's kinda sad seeing some of the same tactics that wouldn't've worked on half the high schoolers in retail work on people with advanced degrees.

dovetaile
Jul 8, 2011

Grimey Drawer
You guys get thanked by your management?

We don't even get that anymore since the new store manager came in. Now all I get is more poo poo shoved at me and if I complain, all I get told is "Oh we [we being management] have it worse than you." And that was from the "good" manager (i.e.: the one our SM didn't bring with him).

It loving sucks 'cause I liked this job til the new SM came in (and began to very obviously play favorites among other things -I shouldn't have to check my schedule every day to make sure it's the same).

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

dovetaile posted:

You guys get thanked by your management?

We don't even get that anymore since the new store manager came in. Now all I get is more poo poo shoved at me and if I complain, all I get told is "Oh we [we being management] have it worse than you." And that was from the "good" manager (i.e.: the one our SM didn't bring with him).

It loving sucks 'cause I liked this job til the new SM came in (and began to very obviously play favorites among other things -I shouldn't have to check my schedule every day to make sure it's the same).

I'm an AM and I'll always try to make offhanded "good job" or "hey thanks" comments - or alternatively "don't worry about it" if someone makes a mistake/forgets to do something before I fix/do it - since I know even those little comments can help relieve the soulcrush of retail from my associates...or at least help keep them from calling off routinely. :v:

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Oolb posted:

I don't know why I'm the one being made to feel insane for absolutely hating the gently caress out of retail, doubly so for recognizing that retail is poison to your mind, body, and spirit. Not that I've even said much more than a passing UGH. Like, I guess if my co-workers work really hard, and kiss up, they could gain some valuable experience. I mean, retail's management is a hard position, it could teach valuable people skills, right? I guess, idk. What I don't get is why they expect me to act like I love the company. Why? I'm polite enough about it, I do my job, what's the point pretending that I love it so much? I'm a good worker, better than uh, let's say 75-85 percent of workers you might hire. Am I just being a bitch? (Yes, because I'm not a Zen professional enough but goddamn is it hard). I see it in my eyes, i'm dead inside. (okay, dying - not to be so dramatic)

I feel like one of the most profound ways (of the many) in which corporate Retail has poisoned me is the sense that all jobs are going to be this loving bad, if not worse. God I hope that's not so.

I'm definitely an anomaly in that I like my job in retail (granted only after I've risen up to a management position), but I absolutely refuse to drink the Kool-Aid...unless someone like the DM or LP leader is visiting, in which case, yep still love corporate, best company I've ever worked for, no complaints whatsoever. :downs: I'm not shy about telling new hires exactly what doesn't make sense here or what sucks. Might as well be the bearer of bad news early.

symbolic fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 25, 2022

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Rainbow Knight posted:



it's just so drat slimy.

like, right off the bat they say that the union sacrificed <5% of a wage investment for their benefits (well, not outright saying it was to keep benefits but it's a given because that's what unions do!) as if it's a bad thing or something.

lol

I have no idea what the pay is like currently, but only the meat department at the Smith's (Kroger) I used to work at in Wyoming is unionized. I was a cashier and courtesy clerk making $10 per hour in 2019. To my knowledge, the lead CSM's pay capped at around $15 per hour.

When I started with USPS as a clerk, I was starting at $17.19 per hour when I was really supposed to be at $17.90. A new contract with American Postal Workers Union (clerk, trucking, maintenance, IT crafts), required back pay because it didn't start paying until the pay period after I started, but the timing of the agreed upon raises were supposed to have gone through quite a bit before I started.

I'm dealing with this again a second time because APWU's contract negotiations went past the September due date, didn't reach an agreement with USPS until January, and didn't go out for vote by members until late February. It passed and has been ratified, but the raises are past due and we're not going to see them in our paychecks until June, so I'm getting nine months worth of back pay in June. I'll be promoted to full-time by then, so I get the back pay for the full-timers too for the time that I worked without the raise, and start rolling on that 48.5¢ per hour raise as I go up pay steps every thirty-six weeks

Join a fuckin union, folks.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

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Star Man posted:

Join a fuckin union, folks.

can't be said enough

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KTS
Jun 22, 2004

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Rainbow Knight posted:

didn't someone in here just quit retail? I feel like I missed an opportunity for another "Now That's What I Call Retail 20XX" post but I've been busy with life, and Elden Ring swallowed my free time

Me, I'm 2 weeks in to the new job and loving it. Small company, office based and I get to gently caress around with 3d printers and building modules for the custom gear we sell and taking support calls from installers and clients. It's a very laidback atmosphere at work, get poo poo done when it needs to be and appreciate the downtime when it's there and go play some pool or darts or whatever in the office. Start time is a bit loose (the retail be ready to start 15 minutes before your start time is built in to me now and I've been the first person into the office every day) and we tend to spend the first 30-40 mins of the day making coffee/breakfast and talking poo poo. It helps that I've worked with 2 of the guys previously, we've all jumped ship from the same store so I get along well with everyone. It's just such a change to the grind I've been used to for so long, a bit daunting to just up and start fresh at 40 in a different career and field but it'll be worth it.

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