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Bloodly posted:This was Sachiko Cubed.  Hypocrisy posted:Did the Emory fight have anything? I liked the Hume boss fight video for the Hume attack animations.
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Mar 7, 2022 14:09
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Nothing ever came of that ominous no kissing warning after Linda got infected with las plagas by Dr Hitler, did it? Other than that camping scene of Ken and Linda ignoring the advice.
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Mar 7, 2022 16:51
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Sure are a lot of games with time shenanigans running right now, huh? Is this some kind of grand time loop where each scenario happens but an entire planet's lifetime apart? Is the implication that Ken and Linda are in fact the progenitors of the natives, and bring all the animals with them to repopulate the ecosystem?
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Mar 7, 2022 17:22
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ZCKaiser posted:Sure are a lot of games with time shenanigans running right now, huh? I'm more picturing the Clue movie's bit about "This is one way things could have gone" endings, but for the scenarios and all with the same ending.
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Mar 7, 2022 17:28
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Geemer posted:Nothing ever came of that ominous no kissing warning after Linda got infected with las plagas by Dr Hitler, did it? Other than that camping scene of Ken and Linda ignoring the advice. I'm pretty sure that was just simply Emory trying to keep Ken away from Linda and push him towards Sachiko so that the two of them would end up on the ark. I don't think there's too much more here than that.
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Mar 7, 2022 17:32
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Randalor posted:I'm more picturing the Clue movie's bit about "This is one way things could have gone" endings, but for the scenarios and all with the same ending. You laugh, but just wait til Sachiko appears as a singing telegram in the next scenario
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:You laugh, but just wait til Sachiko appears as a singing telegram in the next scenario It's a shame this game was 4 years before Being John Malkovich was made, otherwise I would joke the next scenario just replaces all of the NPCs with Sachikos that say the NPCs dialogue.
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Mar 8, 2022 04:22
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:You laugh, but just wait til Sachiko appears as a singing telegram in the next scenario I mean, at this point I could conceivably see that happening.
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Mar 8, 2022 07:06
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Randalor posted:It's a shame this game was 4 years before Being John Malkovich was made, otherwise I would joke the next scenario just replaces all of the NPCs with Sachikos that say the NPCs dialogue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Fuxkinhug Sachiko? Sachiko Sachiko. Sachiko! Sachiko? Sachiko. Sachikoooooooooagh!
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The real Linda³ begins here! -- Not Hidetaka Miyazaki How do you like them bananas? -- Anonymous Hello again, and welcome back to Linda³! It's time for Scenario C! Let's see what it will bring us! As always...  ...we start from the main menu, which leads into..  ...the familiar scenario selection screen.  Of course, today we'll select to start Scenario C, "Astro Ark".  Except... unlike before, this time we get a bit of a curious prompt from the game! I mean, I guess it might be a reasonable question, but the phrasing and tone is a bit... odd. Nonetheless, we HAVE indeed already finished playing scenarios A and B to the end, so it's probably safe to tell the game to "go away" and to let us proceed.  And so we finally get to the usual screen which lists the winning conditions for this particular scenario. That definitely looks a bit more wordy than before! Well, here goes: - Capture no less than 100 animal species. At worst 70 species, preferably 90, and you can start bragging about it at 100. - Take off with the ark. The phrasing is a bit odd (again), but really anything less than 100 gives you a game over when the time expires, so in the end it's the same as before except this time the limit is not 30 or 50 but 100. Except... not really. Turns out, the game is not being entirely truthful here. Sure you can finish the game if you have 100. But... there is a, let's call it a "true" ending to this scenario in addition to the normal one. You can only see the "true" ending if you collect ALL 120 species. There is no room for error here--things are serious now. But that's ok--I have stated in the introduction that our goal will be to 100% this game, so that's what we'll do. It's definitely somehwat fraught with pitfalls, as there are several "dead man walking" scenarios in which you can accidentally find yourself without realising until it's way too late to do anything about it. Of course, as you can imagine, considering this requirement, in this scenario we have access to the entire game world, and unlike before, no areas will be blocked off to us. If you're playing on "hard" difficulty, then there are additional conditions: like in previous scenario, you are again not allowed to use dogs. In addition to that, you are also not allowed to use any equipment (clothes/weapons), and also you are not allowed to leave on the ark before Ken's mum leaves the planet. That last one ("don't leave before Ken's mum") is kind of not so important if you are collecting all 120 species. The logistics of capturing some of them is such that you anyway can't finish before 1999, so you'll more or less naturally end up leaving after her, without having to make a special effort over it. So this time, as you can see, we're in it for the long haul! And, yes, indeed, since this scenario pretty much plays out over the entire eight year period, this is the first time we'll be able to see some of the more immediate effects of the passage of time. But more on that later. One last thing, back in the PC Engine original the total number of species was only 100, so the extra 20 are actually an addition in the remake version. All right, I think that's enough for an introduction. Let's start playing! As always, we start with Ken having breakfast with his mum!     Like always, the phone rings with it being the commander calling to ask about Ken...  She finishes the phone conversation.  Well, let's be on our way, then.  To start with, we'll stop quickly by this here building, which you might recall is the power station for Hardia.  There's nobody down here, but...  ...upstairs there's an old lady. Well, we know already why, but the characters in the game don't, so she does make a valid point here! You can never get this dialogue if you don't do it now, so that's why we've made a short detour before going to the HQ!  On the way to the HQ we can also, as always, pick up a dog from this girl here whose family is leaving the planet.  Anyway, let's go to in the HQ.  This guy has a curious comment...  Going upstairs for the meeting, our colleague has something to say. Mmhm, I will make sure to do that! Also, the commander's secretary: Well, let's head over to the meeting, shall we?   As always, we're given the choice to either watch or not the cutscene which explains the situation. Since it's the same as before, we'll skip it now.  As usual, there's no choice but to push the button! After everybody is gone, we can talk to commander again.  Well, with this done, let's make our way out.  This guy has some more dialogue... So this time too, Linda doesn't knock Ken out with a stick! So let's head downstairs.  Well, there's Linda and her mum there. Also, it seems that somebody has carelessly dropped a banana peel on the floor. So, uh, let's try to be careful...  ...and not step on it.  Ken stepped on a banana peel and fell over at an inconvenient angle. Through his faded consciousness, he thought he heard the sound of Linda's voice and the church bells at some point...   At some point in time, Ken wakes up in bed, with Linda standing nearby. How much time exactly has passed in the meantime?  Let's hope that Emory is doing a better job than last time!  Linda starts to leave, but then remembers...  It seems Ken also needs to regain his ability to speak, too! Nonetheless, it is us the player who needs to use the O button to blink once or twice, like so:   She goes away...  ...giving us a moment to finally get out of bed!   While that's all going on...  ...a person dressed in a Santa suit shows up at the door!  Oh, hey, it's Nek! He walks over to them...   As he starts to leave...  He just leaves without saying anything.   Indeed we do, but outside, Linda is again approached by Nek!  And he just runs off!  I guess Ken's injury caused them to be reunited? Also, you might remember that this house that they just came out of is the house where Linda's family used to live before they moved to Minago. It seems that Ken and Linda are living here again. In any case, the location is labeled in game as "The Newlywed House", so... For now, let's just talk to the guy in white who's been standing there in our yard. Well, all right, I guess we should walk over to Ken's house and tell his mum that he's doing better now! But first, let's sit on the swing with Linda, as always!  All right, now let's go inside!   But... are you not going to fill us in about how is it that Ken even has a lost brother? I mean, you should know something, right? Guess not, huh? Anyway, as we leave...  Well, sure, you go on a trip. Anyway, we have animals to be collecting. But don't think I've forgotten you glossing over the whole Nek situation! Now, it's time to make sure we avoid our first "dead man walking" scenario.  It involves again going to the power station...  ...and talking to the elderly couple here. Huh, ok. Anyway, you actually have plenty of time to come here before it becomes too late, but it's best to do it immediately, so you don't forget. Having done this, we can now leave. Let's head back over to the HQ.  On the way there, this lady has a bit of a gameplay tip which we already mostly know. It's true. As long you have the animal, how you obtained it makes no difference. Even if a computer gives it to you from the cryogenic storage! Now let's go in.  By the way, I almost forgot. How much time exactly has already passed? Opening the menu screen gives us the answer!  Yikes. Here we can see that it's already Spring 1992. So we have lost almost an entire year while Ken was incapacitated. Well, that's not great, but I guess we'll have to manage. You can see that I also took out all the money from the bank. We'll need it to buy a second dog, but at least this time we don't need a loan since Ken was receiving his salary all this time. Of course we'll also do the money trick a bit and to obtain two swallow cutters, but a bit later. For now, let's head over to this room  We can talk to the person at the computer. Also the guy by the stairs... Oh, shut up! Let's continue upstairs and talk to Ben.  Oh, shush!  We'll just go and look at your swimsuit calendar instead!  Huh, this time it's all four ladies: Elizabeth, Ann, Linda and Sachiko. Ok then.  Next, we'll head over here where the ranger housing is... and talk to this person standing here. Sort of yes, but still be careful to not end up caught short on time.  Inside one of the shacks, we can talk to a ranger lady.  In another of the shacks, there is also a person to talk to.  Next, let's head briefly into the hotel.  To start with, we'll talk to the guy who is standing over there in his room... Now we proceed upstairs.  Let's start with the ranger standing by the bar...  And then there's also this older guy in the corner... Well, we might recall at this point about the place we visited in Scenario B, where there was a guard in one of the caves who mentioned that his duty was to watch over the dogs coming from a nearby nest... So, that might be a place to go looking for this "Fang". But we'll see soon enough. All right, let's leave.  It's time to go and register at the ark, so we'll head out.  But in the entry hallway...   Linda makes a phone call. Linda comes back to Ken.   While we're here, let's also check out the news bulletin. N.K. News Bulletin After choice for the ark crew, tragedy strikes! Ken Challenger, a member of the Ranger Corps, fell down the stairs immediately after volunteering. Although he survived, he suffered a spinal cord injury, a caved in skull, and many other injuries to his body. It is expected it will take him at least six months to recover. Well, ok, let's head out.  Obviously, we'll head over into the ark to register first.  There is a person here we can talk to! Whatever, dude.  There's another person in the shack... That is a very good question... and one we hope we find an answer to!  But, let's head into the ark itself.  Specifically, to this room, where as usual we can register as crew.   Smartass! Let's head up to the other floor where the control room is.  Are they... somehow aware about what's been going on in the game so far?  No matter. Here is the control room entrance. It takes a moment to realise it consciously, but... actually neither of our characters are currently in any way incapacitated, so we can just waltz in here whenever we want!    Of course, we have no animals, so we're not going to be taking off just yet...  ...but there's still this chest here in the corner, same as before!  Maybe this time we'll be able to find out what this is for! But, let's leave it at that for now. Obviously next time we'll start our hunt and all that. Right now, I have an important thing to tell you. Remember how I kept saying "later, later, later" on so many things? Well, "later" is now. We have full freedom to explore this entire world and to discover all its mysteries. There will be no plot to push us forward and no cutscenes to distract us either. At this point, this game will be only what WE make of it to be. The world, as they say, is our oyster and it's time to go out and explore EVERYTING and collect ALL animals and solve ALL mysteries of this planet! The moment we've all been waiting for (I hope)! As a little bit of a historical note, according to Shoji Masuda, the game's designer, this was always the original intention for the game, even back when it was tentatively named "Heavenly Zoo". There was no Linda in it and the only task was to use various game mechanics to explore everything and collect all species in an open world environment. Ultimately, it was decided that while novel, this concept might be a bit of a hard sell, so the character of Linda was added because "games with cute girls in them sell better", and then even two bonus scenarios were added in order to serve as a kind of a tutorial to ease the player into it. How's that for a twist? It's literally a spoiler to even explain properly the game's structure to a new player! Also... why two bonuses and not just one? Because adding just one bonus "would be seen as too cheap", apparently, according to Masuda! Hey, so, I'll see you all back here next time when we start on our proper journey, finally! Don't forget to eat those nutritious bananas in the meantime!  Today, we have an illustration of Nek and Sachiko, in their PC Engine versions: ivantod fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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...Linda^3 never fails to amaze. What an intro. Glad we're in the happy timeline now.
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Mar 17, 2022 00:52
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Hahahaha what the heck. That's definitely a way to start off this scenario alright!
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Mar 17, 2022 01:08
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So all of that was just the TUTORIAL?! 
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i noticed a typo in this npc dialogue: "Under the push of Federation, the colonisation of Neo-Kenya began 100 about 100 years ago." a ye olden open world... also lol that it starts like mgs5 a bit, though much lighter (  ken); it seems like things overall are a bit cheerier in this scenario than the last 2
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Mar 17, 2022 01:41
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GilliamYaeger posted:So all of that was just the TUTORIAL?! Serious  vibes all around in this one.
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Mar 17, 2022 01:54
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This game is bananas! (B-A-N-A-N-A-S  )
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Of all the ways scenario 3 would start, I didn't expect this. I'll give the game this much, every swerve it's had has taken me completely off guard.
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Mar 17, 2022 02:55
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that is actually a genius way to get a player prepared to take on scenario C. Instead of just throwing them in the deep end, allow them to beat A and B to get used to the mechanics and learn how capture actually works. But the whole "only true gamers that have explored every inch and beaten every challenge" 100% barrier to the true ending is a bit much. Maybe that's the charm of retro games like this.
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It's always a delight when a stock physical comedy gag gets treated seriously, especially when the game has previously used similar physical comedy gags. I am a little sad to find out there's not really a storyline for this scenario, but I guess there's still a lot of Stuff That Was Only Hinted About Before that we'll finally see some elaboration on, and hopefully this means Linda's mother won't die horrifically (again). And of course, lots of new pokemons to catch.
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ivantod posted:
ivantod posted:One last thing, back in the PC Engine original the total number of species was only 100, so the extra 20 are actually an addition in the remake version. Was the requirement only 70 species in the PC Engine version, since it had fewer of them? If that were the case, and the second sentence of the winning-condition text wasn't updated in this version to account for the new amounts, it would explain the discrepancy...
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... I... wow, on the one hand, dick move on the part of the game, on the other... hey Nek and Sachiko get a happy ending, yay?
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I did not expect this, but it does make a lot of sense given how the game's been structured. I'm only more intrigued at what other highly normal things await us on the quest to the true ending.
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But... but... Psycho Santa Twin. Zombies. Bad Dad to the Max. Doing the Time Warp. Laser-Hand Bugmen. Doctor Hitler. Clones. Beef Arm. Morality 101. Laser-Hand Clones. Revenge of Doctor Hitler. Let's Do the Time Warp Again. ALL OF THAT WAS ADDED JUST AS A TUTORIAL?! 
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Booky posted:i noticed a typo in this npc dialogue: "Under the push of Federation, the colonisation of Neo-Kenya began 100 about 100 years ago." Raitzeno posted:ALL OF THAT WAS ADDED JUST AS A TUTORIAL?! Zyxyz posted:Was the requirement only 70 species in the PC Engine version, since it had fewer of them? If that were the case, and the second sentence of the winning-condition text wasn't updated in this version to account for the new amounts, it would explain the discrepancy... Big Mad Drongo posted:Serious )Also, enjoying immensely everyone's reactions to the unxpected twist in game's structure, so keep them coming lol.
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Mar 17, 2022 08:06
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It's hard to keep saying, "huh I never expected that" without it feeling hollow but Huh, I never expected that
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wtf is the deal with the bananas
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ivantod posted:Kind of. Maybe tutorial is a bit of "strong" word, but it is true that the first two scenarios were added to "ease" the player into it for the part of the game that Shoji Masuda originally wanted to make, which was the open world exploration (which is now Scenario C). So yeah... I can tell you it took quite an effort on my end to not spoil this ahead of time and I hoped that people wouldn't get too annoyed with my constant "later, later" until we get to this point! Well, at least "later" is now! That makes sense. This way, it gives the players a chance to learn where 30/50 of the animals are earlier on, so 100/120 seems less daunting when you actually get to that point. Shame about the apparent dead man walking situations though.
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Doc Hawkins posted:wtf is the deal with the bananas 
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kirbysuperstar posted:It's hard to keep saying, "huh I never expected that" without it feeling hollow but 
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Doc Hawkins posted:wtf is the deal with the bananas they're nature's silent killer. DACK FAYDEN posted:they are full of delicious nutrients I like bananas, they're cheap and easy to eat.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:they are full of delicious nutrients Potassium is good for you
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Randalor posted:Shame about the apparent dead man walking situations though. To be fair, in general you will get hints about these situations from the NPCs, so you REALLY need to make sure to talk repeatedly to all of the many NPCs in order to not miss anything. As for this older couple, I don't think you necessarily get any hints from others, but they're NPCs so you need to talk to them. To be exact, in this particular case you only need to do it before 1999 when they leave the planet so you do have lots of time and there are other animals too which prevent you from leaving before 1999 anyway. But if you miss them before they leave then you will NOT be able to capture a pair of aye ayes in any other way. Another example about "dead man walking" which we've seen already in Scenario A is for example that otters become extinct in 1997 (and there is absolutely no way of capturing them after that deadline), which again you can get more or less vague hints from the NPCs about, so it's not exactly something you have to "guess", but you also need to know how to interpret the hints and also as mentioned to keep talking to NPCs at all times over and over. ivantod fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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So Ken obviously isn't actually Ken, right? Like, you can take the crazy out and tiny mustache man is still going to be one incident from going full Umbrella. And they did make it clear that Ken hadn't registered with the Ark before The Fateful Banana, and that list of injuries sounds incredibly unsurvivable. (Also it means our esteemed OP is being incredibly cheeky with the use of "dead man walking," which I appreciate.) No Ken you are the Sachikos
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The way I interpret the game saying Ken can't move even though his body has recovered from near-terminal slapstick, is that we, the player, have fully subsumed his consciousness. And he can no longer function without the player guiding his actions. While all the others are Non Player Characters, and thus don't need a player to control them and let them live their lives. But I'm not sure if this is going too meta for this totally ordinary JRPG, or not meta enough.
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My feeling is "Is this a simulation?" Or maybe the other two were....ugh. "Although he survived, he suffered a spinal cord injury, a caved in skull, and many other injuries to his body. It is expected it will take him at least six months to recover." He fell only on his back. How did he take so much damage? 'Heavenly Zoo'...I don't like this at all. My thoughts turn to 'none of this is real, it's all fantasy, he's either dying or already dead'.
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Raitzeno posted:But... but... I respect it. 
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Bloodly posted:My feeling is "Is this a simulation?" Or maybe the other two were....ugh.
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Bloodly posted:He fell only on his back. How did he take so much damage? I'm willing to bet Linda's to blame for the non-spinal injuries. She seems like the type of person who would immediately try smacking Ken awake, and she is inhumanly strong outside of combat even without her dad's arm.
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Everyone knows if someone has a physical accident, if you add enough blunt-force trauma, it warps around to healing them instead
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