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Jeherrin posted:If only there had been a recent attempt to end fire and rehire wururuugh now is not the tiiiiime
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There’s definitely a vibe amongst certain sections of the left (tankies, C-SPAM, SWP dickheads) to make hatred of the west, and blaming the west for everything, a core part of their political identity. I know this because I eagerly await them coming out the woodwork to defend the persecution of Uyghers or the invasion of Ukraine (sorry, not defend, assign major blame to the west for) and like clockwork they’re there. There are arsehole imperialists all over the world, it’s not all us.
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Why you would limit your loathing to merely half the world I don't know.
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It's p.easy to hate both Putin and the West/NATO, I find, and I do it p.often
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https://twitter.com/LordIanAustin/status/1504391220256284678 Ian Austin having to pay "substantial" damages to Laura Murray for calling her an antisemite and an enabler of antisemitism is good, and hopefully makes up for the losses she incurred in that *ridiculous* judgement that Rachel Riley got against her. What's (potentially) rather better is the wording of the judgement, which specifically recognises that Murray is not only not an antisemite, she worked hard in stopping antisemitism in the party. This is exactly opposite a key part of the antisemitism-in-Labour narrative, which held moving Murray to the GLU was all part of Adolf Corbyn's plan to start up Auschwitz. I'd imagine a few people are sweating a bit given this - not that the judgement itself is particularly binding precedent (although it doesn't hurt), but it *does* suggest that whatever evidence was used to back up this claim in the case was persuasive to M'Luds, and presumably can be used in other cases in the future.
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jiggerypokery posted:I'm not exactly sure which groups "they" refers to here, but that doesn't make this post any less than 100% accurate. The downsides of abandoning climate action are so enormous though it's extremely hard not to care. I have no doubt that the risks and targets will have been calculated by other committees, NGOs, global groups, actuaries, risk managers, etc. but you can do any job like a oval office, and while I doubt Johnson has the stones to go full ecofash (Patel otoh) it does mean we're more likely to get a "gas bills up 5x, cuts to benefits, gently caress the poor" net zero than a "mass investment in clean public transport and energy efficient social housing" net zero. Farage opposes this not out of any human principle, but because he's a contrarian chode who'll take money from any blood and oil covered despot, but it will be very interesting to see how he opposes it and in turn how the Tories defend their version of net zero. "People are sick of eggheads telling them that they should be ashamed of eating steak or buying chocolate or having a bowl of cereal" vs. "everyone's going to have to tighten their belts a little more in the future (while we bung a bonzer bribe to Byson and Bolls Boyce)" is a debate that Farage would win in the same way that he won Brexit against Clegg. The net zero side will have to show how it will be a net zero that benefits ordinary people to fight a fake populist 'anti climate' movement. Whether they can do that or not is a different matter.
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Farage already did a video a few days ago on the price of oil and gas. His take? That we need to cut spending on the 'green' spending which makes up portion of the price. His YT comments are full of crazy too, saw some blaming the Irish for the prices via Article 16 not used yet.
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Guavanaut posted:They in this case is the sum total of net zero action as directed by Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, George Eustice, etc. I give a 10% chance net zero is in the next tory manifesto at best.
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I think there'll be some pursuit of it as long as there's a shitload of money to be made from it, and there's a shitload of money to be made from it as long as every long-term actuarial firm is soiling themselves over it, so I can't see it going away unless the climate fixes itself. Whether it is still called net zero is a different matter though, because the frog straighteners seem to have glommed onto that as an equivalent to 'agenda 21' or 'new world order' to explain how everything caused by austerity and brexit and covid is actually the fault of an emissions plan that the tories haven't even started half-arsing yet.
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domhal posted:Also, from that message the MP tweeted: 
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jiggerypokery posted:I give a 10% chance net zero is in the next tory manifesto at best. * by 'conservative government' we mean someone else will have invented something by then and we'll take credit ** a total of zero when figures for energy production is offset against the cost of government corruption *** by 2080
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In the midlands customer facing rolls are called client side cobs.
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"I'm not private equity-owned" I continue to insist as I shrink and transform my employees into client cobs
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drat I'm hungry at the moment. How do they prepare seaweed? I've never had it. I guess it's just a nice salty gilled thing?
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Guavanaut posted:In the midlands customer facing rolls are called client side cobs. I think u mean baps
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Is Ian Austin the dog nonce?
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Jippa posted:drat I'm hungry at the moment. How do they prepare seaweed? I've never had it. I guess it's just a nice salty gilled thing? Yup, it's called 'nori' and it's salty, smoky and delicious!
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Gorn Myson posted:Is Ian Austin the dog nonce? 
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Wait if that's why Ian Austin is a dog nonce then who was the one that was found to have accessed porn that was legal at the time but illegal by the time it came out (narrowing it down to bestiality or drawn images of children)?
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Are pretend police really allowed to handcuff people? https://twitter.com/RespectIsVital/status/1504466517676634120?s=20&t=4bPEgO9lyLZc3HzFcn8aCQ
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peanut- posted:Are pretend police really allowed to handcuff people? cool, the pinkertons are back and not even in pog form
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https://twitter.com/LabourList/status/1504447970464481287?s=19 I can excuse the racism but I draw the line at criticism of NATO.
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‘Expressed concern’ is new labour ‘thoughts and prayers’.
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peanut- posted:Are pretend police really allowed to handcuff people? anyone can handcuff anyone else but you have to be able to prove that doing so was 'proportionate and reasonable', so of course we can all surmise that being in the way of big money people will be easily regarded as such
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A take absolutely beyond belief: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/17/backlash-over-strip-searched-girl-child-q-uk-cares-about-minorities-kemi-badenoch
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peanut- posted:Are pretend police really allowed to handcuff people? Not really but nothing matters and no one cares hth
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Jeherrin posted:A take absolutely beyond belief: And here I was thinking Powell was the Bad Enoch.
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quote:Hello Mr Wallace? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/mar/17/hoax-caller-ukrainian-pm-denys-shmyhal-uk-ben-wallace-priti-patel
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Regarding the P&O stuff. I can say that the vast majority of their current senior leadership team did not know this was going to happen until this morning. They are also currently fearful for their jobs due to being cut out of all of this discussion. Staff were threatened with this a number of years ago before P&O backed down but to see them actually go ahead with it is mind boggling. Its potentially illegal (depending on where their vessels are flagged) and certainly goes against their internal staff policies and HR Guidelines. This is literally a nuclear option and there is no-where for them to go after doing this. Its also important to remember the ongoing pension case which could bankrupt them anyway.
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I also believe they haven't sacked the French workers. Since I imagine they don't want the ships to be firebombed every time they get into Calais.
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serious gaylord posted:Regarding the P&O stuff. I am confident they have a well oiled team of lawyers who are very, very loving sure that they’ve greased enough palms in government that they’ll get out of this on a technicality. It’s shitheels all the way down.
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afaik the law now is just such that they don’t really have to care about it. It will take a couple of years for tribunals to happen. For anyone that does go through it the max payout isn’t that high, and in the meantime they will likely have got another job on the same or better money, reducing the potential payout to nil. The law might technically say one thing but the economics mean another.
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The P&O ferries were registered to Cyprus in 2019, according to wikipedia. To a tax haven naturally. The fix is in!
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serious gaylord posted:I also believe they haven't sacked the French workers. Since I imagine they don't want the ships to be firebombed every time they get into Calais. It's loving pathetic that we know the French wouldn't take it but the British have no concept of solidarity whatsoever. happyhippy posted:The P&O ferries were registered to Cyprus in 2019, according to wikipedia. Aye, that's what I'd heard as well.
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P&O? More like poo
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Guavanaut posted:P&O: Vlad looking like a wax model here.
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forkboy84 posted:It's loving pathetic that we know the French wouldn't take it but the British have no concept of solidarity whatsoever. They’ve not fired any Dutch staff either. This is our dynamic post-Brexit labour market at work. If you’re going to fire a quarter of your workforce, do it in the country where it’s legal and cheap.
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Borrovan posted:Wait if that's why Ian Austin is a dog nonce then who was the one that was found to have accessed porn that was legal at the time but illegal by the time it came out (narrowing it down to bestiality or drawn images of children)? Damian Green. I thought that law also covered fisting, BDSM and a few other things too. On the P&O thing, apparently the workers are classed as "seafarers" which means their employment rights are very different. No idea how true that is. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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"No, it's not extreme pornography, it's a funny joke, see, the pig has pooped on his own huge balls..."
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