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Mode 7
Jul 28, 2007

I think it's useful to have well laid out sources so that when someone asks "Why is Zak S such a shitbag?" you can link to it and go "summary here". The fact that Zak is parading through the comments like an unhinged rant elemental also helps demonstrate the kind of person he is pretty effectively, I think.

It's also very important to remember, always, at all times, that Zak S is a serial abuser and a rapist who poo poo his pants in a Chik-fil-A at GenCon.

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
I'm starting to think that this bit is mean to people who do suffer from incontinence. :smith:

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Mode 7 posted:

I think it's useful to have well laid out sources so that when someone asks "Why is Zak S such a shitbag?" you can link to it and go "summary here". The fact that Zak is parading through the comments like an unhinged rant elemental also helps demonstrate the kind of person he is pretty effectively, I think.

It's also very important to remember, always, at all times, that Zak S is a serial abuser and a rapist who poo poo his pants in a Chik-fil-A at GenCon.

I'm not saying "don't do it", I'm saying that stating "the only way to defeat fire is by dousing it with water" and then going "OH poo poo, IS THAT HOUSE ON FIRE?" and then throwing wood at said fire is, uh, an interesting tactic. Bad for putting out fires, but fun if you like watching fire burn things. Again, for the second time, I'm not saying what Skerples is doing is bad here, just that it's in conflict with earlier statements. Which is fine. It's life. And I'm sure even Zak is having a good time 'fighting for his name' or whatever.

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
Views change over time.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
I wonder if something could have happened since 2017 to make someone change their mind about how they should engage with ZeekS.

KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack
Honestly, somebody needs to make a bot that does nothing but Zakpost to keep our old, pants-making GBS threads friend perpetually occupied.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Views change over time.


Absurd Alhazred posted:

I wonder if something could have happened since 2017 to make someone change their mind about how they should engage with ZeekS.

Honestly I think he's just having fun. It's not like "engaging with Zak S on the terms he enjoys like it's G+ all over again" is suddenly a tactic that works, Zak will not be going "ok yeah im a poo poo guy and it was wrong of me to sue, you are right im sorry" in that comment thread anytime soon, he's going to just keep angrily responding to people in like, almost the exact same manner I've seen him do it. In Skerp's own post, he has the screenshot of Zak pledging to Zak harder, so he knows exactly what he's getting into.

But again, that's fine, sometimes you get bored and poke the bear. :shrug:

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Nystral posted:

Why are you lumping Russia with Asia in GW’s reporting? Wouldn’t it make up part of EMEA or EU region for reporting purposes?
There are Americans who make their living as experts on Russia even though they've never lived there and can't speak or read the language. Therefore, Russia is part of Asia.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018
Oh yeah, I never saw this posted:

https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/50617/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-fall-2021

So it looks like DnD miniatures are still doing extremely well sales-wise. I wonder how much that will change with the new models coming soon. 40k remains at the top of the heap with Sigmar reaching a close second. Star Wars and Marvel (two of the biggest film franchises in history) lag behind, but it makes me wonder how close these are. 2021 was filled to the brim with whiny noises about how GW was dead/doomed/dying due to them trying to avoid having insta-sellout fomo-gently caress-you boxes. There was a lot of spiteful mocking re: AoS with the Dominion sets being in "selling fast!" mode for four straight months from people that hate GW for good reasons(being a butthole business) and bad reasons (they made some noncommittal and then more committal noises about how much they don't want nazi neckbeards buying their toys from them anymore). Not sure how much the whole "we're all moving over to Battletech, gently caress GW!" sentiment stuck, although my FLGS now actually carries the stuff, and a lot of the stuff, so it might be more than we think but less than what the haters were hoping.

All in all, GW is still king in a market that is increasingly hard(it seems) to operate in due to global supply issues.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

KingKalamari posted:

Honestly, somebody needs to make a bot that does nothing but Zakpost to keep our old, pants-making GBS threads friend perpetually occupied.

Do you swear under pain of perjury that you wrote this post?

Tsilkani
Jul 28, 2013

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

Oh yeah, I never saw this posted:

https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/50617/top-5-non-collectible-miniature-lines-fall-2021

So it looks like DnD miniatures are still doing extremely well sales-wise. I wonder how much that will change with the new models coming soon. 40k remains at the top of the heap with Sigmar reaching a close second. Star Wars and Marvel (two of the biggest film franchises in history) lag behind, but it makes me wonder how close these are. 2021 was filled to the brim with whiny noises about how GW was dead/doomed/dying due to them trying to avoid having insta-sellout fomo-gently caress-you boxes. There was a lot of spiteful mocking re: AoS with the Dominion sets being in "selling fast!" mode for four straight months from people that hate GW for good reasons(being a butthole business) and bad reasons (they made some noncommittal and then more committal noises about how much they don't want nazi neckbeards buying their toys from them anymore). Not sure how much the whole "we're all moving over to Battletech, gently caress GW!" sentiment stuck, although my FLGS now actually carries the stuff, and a lot of the stuff, so it might be more than we think but less than what the haters were hoping.

All in all, GW is still king in a market that is increasingly hard(it seems) to operate in due to global supply issues.

Considering the relative size of the lines, Marvel doing that well is pretty amazing.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Cessna posted:

Do you swear under pain of perjury that you wrote this post?
I made a post. You can see it if you sign a sworn affidavit.

Zak seems to really not understand that you can't legislate public opinion. I hope Skerples and his friends are having fun poking the bear, but it seems like they're putting waaay too much effort into this.

quote:

Inspired by Zak’s “obscure” comment in Smith v. Mearls, I started, and then quickly abandoned, a totally pointless analysis of Zak’s adult film career. It’s not worth including in the main post, but since you mentioned his stats (and enjoying information processing), I might as well show you what I’ve got.

Comparing Zak to every actor in the IAF database wouldn’t be useful or meaningful. I decided to compare Zak to the 15 other actors nominated for the 2014 AVN Awards Non-Sex Performance. If this was baseball, I’d be comparing the stats of nominees for the 2014 MLB Reliever of the Year Award.

Of the 15 nominees, Zak has the 2nd lowest total # of films with 9, the 3rd lowest films per year with an average of 1.3, and the 3rd briefest career duration of 7 years. Career duration was calculated by subtracting last film year from first film year; gaps were not included because I didn’t feel like doing more data entry.

I created a series of charts to help compare Zak to the other nominees: https://i.imgur.com/kf5SOoc.png

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 17, 2022

Ego Trip
Aug 28, 2012

A tenacious little mouse!


TheDiceMustRoll posted:

Honestly I think he's just having fun. It's not like "engaging with Zak S on the terms he enjoys like it's G+ all over again" is suddenly a tactic that works, Zak will not be going "ok yeah im a poo poo guy and it was wrong of me to sue, you are right im sorry" in that comment thread anytime soon, he's going to just keep angrily responding to people in like, almost the exact same manner I've seen him do it. In Skerp's own post, he has the screenshot of Zak pledging to Zak harder, so he knows exactly what he's getting into.

But again, that's fine, sometimes you get bored and poke the bear. :shrug:

It's also possible that the engagement isn't for Zaks sake. The author is not trying to convince Zak, he's refuting Zaks points so readers don't get confused/distracted by them.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Ego Trip posted:

It's also possible that the engagement isn't for Zaks sake. The author is not trying to convince Zak, he's refuting Zaks points so readers don't get confused/distracted by them.

Yeah, I think the back-and-forth with Zak was mostly to goad him into posting more information about his lawsuits so they could be added to the summary.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Halloween Jack posted:

I made a post. You can see it if you sign a sworn affidavit.

Liar! It was my roommate, Shannon A, who my attorney of record, who wrote Schwarzenegger vs. Bobbleheads: The Case for Schwarzenegger, clearly states

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012
I like how the guy describes goons as having the grace of ‘a pack of howler monkeys on methamphetamines’.

Anyways, even if this Zak dude was innocent (he’s not) he seems loving insufferable.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

Halloween Jack posted:

I made a post. You can see it if you sign a sworn affidavit.

Zak seems to really not understand that you can't legislate public opinion. I hope Skerples and his friends are having fun poking the bear, but it seems like they're putting waaay too much effort into this.

That was a bit more of a tipping of the hand than he probably intended it to be. Skerples likes to have a pretty curated image of himself, which, if I had to put my finger on it, would be "an aloof XKCD character" and he usually tries to avoid drama like this. The Crypto-Mine adventure he wrote is pretty good, and it's 100% the kind of joke XKCD would make, you can basically imagine it. And now he's effortposting a lot. I don't think pointing out Zak had a short porn career means anything, and making a bunch of charts about it is the "i am not mad while I am absolutely fuming" of being aloof.

Still, the post is very funny, Skerples has a taste for wit, he could write the next THGTTG if he wanted to.

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

GreenMetalSun posted:

I like how the guy describes goons as having the grace of ‘a pack of howler monkeys on methamphetamines’.

Anyways, even if this Zak dude was innocent (he’s not) he seems loving insufferable.

Zak was banned from pretty much every forum he participated in before he was outed as an abuser.

On a different forum I made an lazy take about Fighters being bad in OSR D&D and he showed up and turned it into a multi-page argument that included him telling us that they could bring bags of flour onto a battlefield and use them as an improvised smoke grenade. This ability was unique to fighters because -- and I quote -- they had a larger hit die.

Parts of that forum still use "bags of flour" to call out arguments that have gone so deep in the weeds they're no longer relevant to anyone.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Having read through the conversation, being fair to Skerples, he did use the conversation to get more info from Zak and wisely backed away when Zak started trying to attach weird conditions to things and bombarding him with loaded questions.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

admanb posted:

Zak was banned from pretty much every forum he participated in before he was outed as an abuser.

On a different forum I made an lazy take about Fighters being bad in OSR D&D and he showed up and turned it into a multi-page argument that included him telling us that they could bring bags of flour onto a battlefield and use them as an improvised smoke grenade. This ability was unique to fighters because -- and I quote -- they had a larger hit die.

Parts of that forum still use "bags of flour" to call out arguments that have gone so deep in the weeds they're no longer relevant to anyone.



Whenabouts was this? I feel like you could just go "nah just add some deed dice a'la DCC and they're fine." and move on.

e. the reaction image is for the flour grenade thing. a stoner once suggested that very nonseriously(and tried it) in a game of starfinder a couple years ago so I was wondering.

ee. that conversation went like "wait. are there sacks of flour here?" "why would there be, this is a space station" "why wouldnt there be" *one awkward minute* "Yes, there's some about two turns of sprinting away." "BE RIGHT BACK GUYS"

TheDiceMustRoll fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 17, 2022

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

GreenMetalSun posted:

I like how the guy describes goons as having the grace of ‘a pack of howler monkeys on methamphetamines’.

Anyways, even if this Zak dude was innocent (he’s not) he seems loving insufferable.
Uh yeah, he's been insufferable the whole loving time, and got removed from basically any community that could remove him. That was what he was best known for before he mostly became known for (alleged) abuse and then (alleged) pants-making GBS threads and then (ongoing) lawsuit warfare.

He's currently the TG equivalent of a patent troll.

I love how he's justifying the things he and his lawyer were sanctioned for in comments. Like, dude, if a judge hands down sanctions, you've really hosed up.

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

TheDiceMustRoll posted:

Whenabouts was this? I feel like you could just go "nah just add some deed dice a'la DCC and they're fine." and move on.

e. the reaction image is for the flour grenade thing. a stoner once suggested that very nonseriously(and tried it) in a game of starfinder a couple years ago so I was wondering.

ee. that conversation went like "wait. are there sacks of flour here?" "why would there be, this is a space station" "why wouldnt there be" *one awkward minute* "Yes, there's some about two turns of sprinting away." "BE RIGHT BACK GUYS"

I think it was recent enough that I had played DCC and brought that up as an example of how easy it is to make them work.

But it was never about OSR vs. modern D&D or OSR vs. storygames. It was just a joke I made about an old game having bad design that Zak took as a personal affront to him and everything he stood for.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Mode 7 posted:

The fact that Zak is parading through the comments like an unhinged rant elemental

Nice.

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

dwarf74 posted:

Uh yeah, he's been insufferable the whole loving time,

The first time I heard of him was a creator saying something like, 'I wish we didn't have to resort to 'cancelling' people or making callout posts in order to remove dangerous people/bad actors from our community, but unfortunately we do' and the dude showed up in her mentions SCREAMING that her 'admitting' to this was proof that all the accusations against him were false or something.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


I swear I remember a couple of accounts of people back in the day who got suckered in by Zak and said he managed a public face that actually won him friends and allies who didn't realize he was a Chick-fil-A pants shitter. If so I guess that's gone, seems like nowadays he's fronting with the fact that he poo poo his pants after eating Chick-fil-A at a Gencon and is also a serial sexual abuser. :zak: indeed.

Foolster41
Aug 2, 2013

"It's a non-speaking role"
Gosh, the comments are painful. Zak keeps asking questions that Skerples answers, then Zak asks the same question again asking "why won't you answer a simple question?"

E: I'm kind of surprised Legion is at #5 in that sales list, I've felt like that game has lost momentum and isn't played that much, I haven't heard much about it lately until just a few weeks ago a local store is trying to get games run of it. Then again I moved out in the middle of nowhere a few years ago, so I haven't been to game stores with larger populations like my old store.

Also, nice to see Nolzur's at #2. Their pretty nice inexpensive pre-primed figures.

Foolster41 fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Mar 17, 2022

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Foolster41 posted:

E: I'm kind of surprised Legion is at #5 in that sales list, I've felt like that game has lost momentum and isn't played that much, I haven't heard much about it lately until just a few weeks ago a local store is trying to get games run of it.

At the end of the day, Star Wars is Star Wars. Most tabletop games that are not GW sell such a tiny amount in comparison it is wild
Add that in with buying and playing being different things and it isn't so crazy

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Loon, Crazy and Laughable

Foolster41 posted:

Gosh, the comments are painful. Zak keeps asking questions that Skerples answers, then Zak asks the same question again asking "why won't you answer a simple question?"

E: I'm kind of surprised Legion is at #5 in that sales list, I've felt like that game has lost momentum and isn't played that much, I haven't heard much about it lately until just a few weeks ago a local store is trying to get games run of it. Then again I moved out in the middle of nowhere a few years ago, so I haven't been to game stores with larger populations like my old store.

Also, nice to see Nolzur's at #2. Their pretty nice inexpensive pre-primed figures.

Don't forget the other poster who piggybacks on all of Zak's comments and is definitely not a sockpuppet.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Green Intern posted:

Don't forget the other poster who piggybacks on all of Zak's comments and is definitely not a sockpuppet.

The one Australian who has full confidence in the Australian justice system has logged in.

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin
Does he use social media at all anymore or is his entire online presence shitposting in OSR blogs

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

Froghammer posted:

Does he use social media at all anymore or is his entire online presence shitposting in OSR blogs

He's still active on Twitter on IHitItWithMyAxe.

Apparently I'm blocked, which is a win.

Tsilkani
Jul 28, 2013

Omnicrom posted:

I swear I remember a couple of accounts of people back in the day who got suckered in by Zak and said he managed a public face that actually won him friends and allies who didn't realize he was a Chick-fil-A pants shitter. If so I guess that's gone, seems like nowadays he's fronting with the fact that he poo poo his pants after eating Chick-fil-A at a Gencon and is also a serial sexual abuser. :zak: indeed.

Most of the people who were suckered in by Zak putting on a friendly face have either publicly admitted they hosed up and dropped him like a rock, or crystallized into die-hard, balls-to-the-wall fanatics like that Ben Cusack fellow in the article comments. (Yes, he apparently is a real person, when he came at me on Twitter I checked and his account is full of non-Zak content, so if it's a sock it's more work than Zak has ever put into one before.)

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Nystral posted:

Why are you lumping Russia with Asia in GW’s reporting? Wouldn’t it make up part of EMEA or EU region for reporting purposes?

I assumed. I do not actually know, because GW's annual report does not break it down, which region they place Russian business into.

As a matter of geography, asia and europe are nominally "different continents" and the line drawn to separate them is apparently controversial among both geologists and political factions. I take no particular position on either. I hope you will agree that irrespective of where that line is drawn, if it is drawn at all, a very huge portion of Russia is within Asia. I assumed that meant it would be placed into APAC for revenue reporting purposes. I could easily be wrong.

Halloween Jack posted:

There are Americans who make their living as experts on Russia even though they've never lived there and can't speak or read the language. Therefore, Russia is part of Asia.

I genuinely don't know what this is supposed to mean. I'm probably being naive or something. I feel like I must have missed some kind of ancient, simmering internet fight, and this is a parting shot in that battle?

e. skimming some stuff, it looks like since 75% or so of Russia's population is concentrated west of the Urals, it's considered wrong to call it an Asian country; accurately would be a transcontinental country. Maybe it's normal for companies to group Russia in with Europe for financial accounting. If that's the case, I apologize for any offense I caused.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Mar 17, 2022

Libertad!
Oct 30, 2013

You can have the last word, but I'll have the last laugh!
So some time ago on these forums people were talking about how MAR Barker, the creator of the Tekumel setting, allegedly wrote a Neo-Nazi novel back in 1991.

Well this post hit the OSR subreddit along with a link to a Tekumel fan forum, and it pretty much confirms that Barker is pond scum.

Nystral
Feb 6, 2002

Every man likes a pretty girl with him at a skeleton dance.
In my experience working for large multinationals it has less to do with geopolitical considerations and more to do with how the company was structured in the 1970s and 1980s.

For example a large US-based multinational media company lumped Russia into EMEA (Europe, Middle East, and Africa) as they already had numerous offices in Europe and focused around London / Paris / Munich. So the Moscow office was lumped under the European offices. So operations were largely centralized in Western Europe and the RussIan offices were kind of minor appendages of the larger organization.

A different, US-based video game publisher lumped all of sales under one organization structure - because they didn’t exist until the 80s, and selling to Russian markets wasn’t a consideration until the late 90s. But due to how the company grew the Russian subsidiary was effectively its own organization, however The office in Kyiv would report into Moscow then into London vs London directly like the offices in say Italy. As I understand it the logic behind that structure was more how localization efforts were undertaken with Russian translations were done in market, and effectively no translation into Ukrainian the time, while German and Italian being done in one office in Central Europe.

But my blind spot about Russia is/isn’t European is probably likely due to me spending the last 20 years in corporate businesses in the US and not educating myself about that topic.

NGDBSS
Dec 30, 2009






Libertad! posted:

So some time ago on these forums people were talking about how MAR Barker, the creator of the Tekumel setting, allegedly wrote a Neo-Nazi novel back in 1991.

Well this post hit the OSR subreddit along with a link to a Tekumel fan forum, and it pretty much confirms that Barker is pond scum.
What's on the link? The fan forum requires registration, and when I tried doing so out of morbid curiosity it outright said that registration was disabled.

Lumbermouth
Mar 6, 2008

GREG IS BIG NOW


NGDBSS posted:

What's on the link? The fan forum requires registration, and when I tried doing so out of morbid curiosity it outright said that registration was disabled.

Someone on the OSR Facebook group screenshotted it, hopefully it’s legible here:

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Didn't Zak S send someone here a photo of their kid's school? Extremely psycho behavior.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Lumbermouth posted:

Someone on the OSR Facebook group screenshotted it, hopefully it’s legible here:



"He's just so smart and clever, you know, writing a Nazi book to shock the straights. Just pushing buttons!"

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Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
For all that guy is careful not to make judgements, he sure is quick to defend the nazi book being written.

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