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SpaceCadetBob posted:Thanks! I think it would definitely make a cool vanlife conversion platform, but looking at it from a more legit business perspective, nothing on that page inspires me compared to the info on the ford transit. The Transit EV is a decent platform, just needs 2x the batteries. I don't think that this is something you can retrofit. Something like this in a Transit EV would be a cool platform:  However my RV friend says that 22' is the limit for tent camping spaces in national parks and suggested I keep it at 21'. VideoGameVet fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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VideoGameVet posted:The Transit EV is a decent platform, just needs 2x the batteries. I don't think that this is something you can retrofit. I would think the need/benefit of high amp power service would put you in an RV spot anyways. Not strictly an EV, but i'm surprised nobody has made an lithium-ion webasto for semi truck sleeper climate control. a 5-10kwh pack could easily be charged in a work day and keep the bunk heated/cooled overnight without the need for idling or a diesel powered APU. There are units designed for deep cycle batteries, but they suck so loving bad. Powershift fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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You could build a sweet fire pit inside, don't eat too much fried chicken though. 1
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DoomTrainPhD posted:The R1T is cheaper than the lightning when you configure the lightning with a bigger battery. I’m not gonna dogpile you since I know you work there and care about the product you help make. I’m pretty pro rivian myself minus the recent price snafu which was a pretty bad unforced error. The point I was driving at was that at the moment rivian is a luxury level EV mfg, and fleet vehicles are basically the exact opposite of that. Ford has lead the pack on pickups forever, and while their cargo van supremacy has bounced back and forth a bit over the last 20 years, they’ve really done a good job course correcting with the Transit(ice) to get themselves back in good graces with both big fleets and mom and pops. It’s just a very different market if you really want to push commercial sales beyond a few special interest buyers. I want a lightning/transit for legit work, and I want to buy it as cheap as loving possible and don’t need any options whatsoever. It just needs to get me to the next jobsite, carry tools, be able to upfit a pipe-rack, and not cost me a fortune in repairs(mother loving freightliners).
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Elviscat posted:A dealer near me just sold a brand new bright red Mach E for $43,000, a pre-order that someone refused, I didn't call them quick enough You sure? That's cheaper than a base select model.
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Yeah, they resold a 2021 base select for MSRP, it was like 43,750. Guess someone canceled their pre-order and the dealership slapped an MSRP sticker on it.
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Does anyone have opinions on the Mach-E vs Bolt? Same dealer that was selling the one I mentioned said they'll order me one and sell it for MSRP, which puts a base Select with the comfort package at about the cost of a Bolt 2LT when you factor in the tax rebate that Ford still has. AFAICT +Bolt -very slightly longer range -Smaller (+ or - depending on how you look at it) +Mach E -Roomier/more practical -ACC and other convenience stuff -quicker -faster DCFC -better interior -could reasonably tow a trailer with my dirt bikes and stuff -less ugly Anyone want to add to either list? I think I might switch over to the Mach E, if they can promise delivery in a sane mount of time. I think they're insane to offer me one at MSRP considering used ones are selling at $5,000 over MSRP, without the tax rebate, but whatever.
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Audi A6 EV in first exterior review. Avant model also coming  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZeybx-re7g
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Elviscat posted:Anyone want to add to either list? The whole catching on fire thing if you don't know if the bolt has its pack replaced? 
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bad_fmr posted:Audi A6 EV in first exterior review. not to America it’s not  (not yet)
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bad_fmr posted:Audi A6 EV in first exterior review. Holy moly. A nice detail I like, dual charge ports in the rear, with the fast one (I presume the other is AC only) on the driver's side, which is the correct side.
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bird with big dick posted:That electric avant sure has big exhaust pipes. The wheels are way too big and the panel to glass ratio on the sides makes the Range Rover Evoque look reasonable. You're going to need to put adult passengers on booster cushions if they want to see out of the rear windows. At least it's an actual car, rather than VW's "here's a cool concept due in
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bad_fmr posted:Audi A6 EV in first exterior review. Illuminated front emblem from the factory I see. Lots of Audi owners in North America will appreciate this since they all do this aftermarket install any way.
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Ok Comboomer posted:FUUUUCK I WANT THAT WAGON that is a loving ugly rear end car loving 24" wheels or whatever and 4" of glass
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:that is a loving ugly rear end car I’d change the wheels on it, yeah
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Make ‘em bigger. Put a lift on it.
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Powershift posted:I would think the need/benefit of high amp power service would put you in an RV spot anyways. These people came up with a rather clever solution for converting an existing limited range electric van into a camper. They added batteries and solar and used these to change the propulsion batteries. An International E-STAR. https://www.routedelsol.com quote:In addition to the 80KWH (LiFe) battery pack that is stock on the International E-STAR, we've added a secondary battery pack at 40KWH (LiCo). Oh the E-Stars? The last vans were produced in late 2012 as 2013 models. So they probabily got a deal on a used one. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/09/abandoned-history-the-navistar-estar-a-very-troubled-electric-van/
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EPA numbers for the Lightning (with Rivian for comparison): Kwh/100 Miles: R1T: 48 Lightning Standard: 49 Lightning Platinum: 51 Combined: R1T: 70 MPGe Lightning Standard: 68 Lightning Platinum:66 City: R1T: 74 MPGe Lightning Standard: 76 Lightning Platinum: 73 Highway: R1T: 66 Lightning Standard: 61 Lightning Platinum:60 Zero One fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Mar 17, 2022 |
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I find it hard to believe the Lightning can be more efficient than the R1T considering its larger frontal area.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I find it hard to believe the Lightning can be more efficient than the R1T considering its larger frontal area. It's only more efficient in the city, which makes sense - lower speeds mean fewer losses due to drag.
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The lightning's target weight is 6500lbs for the standard range and 6700lbs on the extended range based on an 8,500lb gvwr. That's 448-648lbs lighter than the Rivian, which makes a difference in the city rating.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:that is a loving ugly rear end car At least its a wagon instead of CUV so all is forgiven. The wheels are ridiculous I agree.
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Not Musk chat! What does this mean? https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1503888110899376138?s=21
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Charles posted:Not Musk chat! Wasn't this in response to BMW saying they'll have full level 3 self driving by mid 2025 and Musk was basically lol sure good luck with that.
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mattfl posted:Wasn't this in response to BMW saying they'll have full level 3 self driving by mid 2025 and Musk was basically lol sure good luck with that. If its really that hard to make FSD work I'm glad I didn't waste $10,000 on it.
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mattfl posted:Wasn't this in response to BMW saying they'll have full level 3 self driving by mid 2025 and Musk was basically lol sure good luck with that. 
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L3 is just “under ideal conditions the car can mostly operate itself but may require the driver to intervene” and Mercedes’ already has it, it’s just that the ideal conditions are very narrow in scope. There’s no reason BMW couldn’t get there as well. Tesla is attempting to leapfrog L3 and L4 and go straight to generalized autonomy in arbitrary conditions which is never going to happen.
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mattfl posted:Wasn't this in response to BMW saying they'll have full level 3 self driving by mid 2025 and Musk was basically lol sure good luck with that. Right, but what does the tweet literally mean?
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Charles posted:Right, but what does the tweet literally mean? It means that he believes that the only way to solve vehicle autonomy is to put a GPU in the car, run a hardware accelerated NN model on that GPU, and teach that a neural Net to drive on a massive training cluster using massive amounts of data gleaned from real world driving. Basically only Tesla is doing it right despite them having 0 success at anything beyond L2. He thinks neural nets are human brains and you just need enough experience and computing power to simulate a human driver.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It means that he believes that the only way to solve vehicle autonomy is to put a GPU in the car, run a hardware accelerated NN model on that GPU, and teach that a neural Net to drive on a massive training cluster using massive amounts of data gleaned from real world driving. Does that mean the older models would need a hardware upgrade, too? Did they have powerful enough GPUs?
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Charles posted:Does that mean the older models would need a hardware upgrade, too? Did they have powerful enough GPUs? There’s a couple different hardware configurations with Tesla, with only HW3 presently capable of the full software stack as it exists/is promised right now. I’m 99% sure that there is going to be at least one more major hardware bump required in the near term, but there’s not even rumor of what this is yet, or what features will be gated to it.
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Charles posted:Does that mean the older models would need a hardware upgrade, too? Did they have powerful enough GPUs? Nobody knows because the sort of generalized NN capable that he’s talking about that is capable of performing very complex tasks and maintaining enough stateful information about the environment to drive at least as well as an attentive human is a complete pipe dream. This is all build on the fundamental flawed premise that neural nets are basically brains (they aren’t), cameras are basically eyes (they aren’t), and all humans use to drive a car is their brains and eyes (we have other important senses). But yes, expect them to keep throwing ever more powerful GPUs into the cars to keep the treadmill going.
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Guess who put in a deposit on a EV6 and might be getting it tomorrow? Trying to sell my car now and honestly this whole carvana thing is freaking me out. They offered me close to 4K over the dealer (which, to be fair, was a lowball number) but they haven’t asked for anything other than proof of ownership. Now I can just schedule someone to pick up the car, do a quick inspection, and get paid? Seriously? This isn’t somehow going to bite me in the rear end? Is this just pissing away venture capital money? Carmax offered me 2.5k over dealer and it’s local so I can always fall back on that if carvana doesn’t work out.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:It means that he believes that the only way to solve vehicle autonomy is to put a GPU in the car, run a hardware accelerated NN model on that GPU, and teach that a neural Net to drive on a massive training cluster using massive amounts of data gleaned from real world driving. He might be right that with enough data you can simulate a human driver, but the caveat there is that human drivers are awful at making decisions. I wouldn't trust my life to a system only as good as I am at driving. I do however trust Tesla's system not to ram my car into oncoming traffic or the car ahead of me, which even now seems like an unsafe bet. Laziness wins v prudence once again. It's incredibly nice to be able to relax on longer drives and just look out for hazards instead of paying so much attention to lane position. Even if we never get anything approaching full autonomy I'll never buy a car without ACC and lanekeeping again.
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Loucks posted:I wouldn't trust my life to a system only as good as I am at driving. loving yikes.
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I’ve had FSD beta for several months and I’ve died like, 20 times.
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PenisMonkey posted:I’ve had FSD beta for several months and I’ve died like, 20 times. Try finger, but hole.
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