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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

RaspberrySea posted:

When the artist responded saying he did the art he was told to
He should've won

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Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

Nigmaetcetera posted:

Erekose is better. He commits not one, but two genocides in his very first book. That’s hosed up.

All the eternal champion incarnations are pretty dope, I think Jerry Cornelius will always be my favourite. The Hawkmoon/Runestaff series is fun too because you can totally tell the whole thing was written in one 48 hour amphetamine binge.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Okay there's only two genuinely good moments in the Dragonlance universe

One is when Tas smashes the dragonorb
The other is when Sturm dies.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Hellequin posted:

All the eternal champion incarnations are pretty dope, I think Jerry Cornelius will always be my favourite. The Hawkmoon/Runestaff series is fun too because you can totally tell the whole thing was written in one 48 hour amphetamine binge.

It was also read by me in a 48 hour amphetamine binge!

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Okay there's only two genuinely good moments in the Dragonlance universe

One is when Tas smashes the dragonorb
The other is when Sturm dies.

There are a few times the editor didn't catch that Sturm's name was spelled wrong as "Strum" and it got to print.

Those are good moments in the book.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Hellequin posted:

All the eternal champion incarnations are pretty dope, I think Jerry Cornelius will always be my favourite. The Hawkmoon/Runestaff series is fun too because you can totally tell the whole thing was written in one 48 hour amphetamine binge.

If it's weird fantasy amphetamine binges that you're after, just play Morrowind and read all the background lore books.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

I don't think I've ever seen a pic of Terry Goodkind before but I instinctively hate his smug face and stupid ponytail.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Atopian posted:

If it's weird fantasy amphetamine binges that you're after, just play Morrowind and read all the background lore books.

Can't you actually get a version of this that's been collected and bound? Or was that an art project someone did?

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006
I remember being frustrated that most Dragonlance books were not specifically about and starring dragons, then found the Douglas Niles book "Dragonlance: The Dragons" and my wish was granted.

It was pretty good, if I remember correctly.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Mr.Chill posted:

I remember being frustrated that most Dragonlance books were not specifically about and starring dragons, then found the Douglas Niles book "Dragonlance: The Dragons" and my wish was granted.

It was pretty good, if I remember correctly.

Dang I'm gonna look that up, I like dragons.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Man that's like being mad that a book called "Paring Knife" isn't about tomatoes

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Man that's like being mad that a book called "Paring Knife" isn't about tomatoes

Wouldn't it be a book called Tomatoknife?

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Okay I guess it would be a book called "Vegetable Peeler" not being about vegetables

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Okay I guess it would be a book called "Vegetable Peeler" not being about vegetables

What is Vegetable Peeler about if it's not about vegetables??

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Pretty sure I mentioned this before but the end of Sword of Truth Richard uses his dragon ball wishes to separate the people who like magic and those who don't into two worlds and the one without magic is Earth and Richard becomes literally God.

Also I haven't seen that interview before but that loving hilarious. Goodkind had such a high opinion of himself. He probably also talked about how all the worlds problems were caused by parents not beating their kids when they mouth off, because Richard does that and he's shown as a hero.

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

twistedmentat posted:

Also I haven't seen that interview before but that loving hilarious. Goodkind had such a high opinion of himself. He probably also talked about how all the worlds problems were caused by parents not beating their kids when they mouth off, because Richard does that and he's shown as a hero.
What kind of author doesn't have their hero maim a ten-year old?

Terry Goodkind posted:

Princess Violet squeezed her eyes shut, stuck her tongue out far as she could.
It was like a red flag.
The strength of the awakened power exploded through him.
He could feel her jaw shatter like a crystal goblet on a stone floor when his boot came up under it. The impact of the blow lifted the Princess into the air. Her own teeth severed her tongue before they, too, shattered. She landed on her back, a good distance away, trying to scream through the gushing blood.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Rebel Blob posted:

What kind of author doesn't have their hero maim a ten-year old?

That happens really early in the first book so it should have been a red flag.

Also there being literally tribe called The Mud People.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Rebel Blob posted:

What kind of author doesn't have their hero maim a ten-year old?

i almost clicked away before actually reading this

:wtc: is wrong with him haha

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
On one hand it does sound like it's royalty and not just some random kid

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

Colonel Cancer posted:

On one hand it does sound like it's royalty and not just some random kid

Could you not, ya creepy gently caress

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Why didn't that 10 year old obtain moral clarity and defect to the socialist ancap revolution

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




Black August posted:

Could you not, ya creepy gently caress

Maybe the kid had bad vibes.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
There is nothing wrong with assaulting royals. Better to start at the top but we shouldn't be picky.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

sassassin posted:

There is nothing wrong with assaulting royals. Better to start at the top but we shouldn't be picky.

which final fantasy game is this a quote from haha

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

‘I attack the King’ roleplayer thug mentality but instead I’m rolling huge critical hits to do 7000 damage to the little girl, blowing her jaw clean off which is praxis

TGG
Aug 8, 2003

"I Dare."
I'm not sure how much it still holds up but when I was younger I was a big Fred Saberhagen fan. I never read his Empire of the East series but I read The Book of Swords which was a sequel series and I remember enjoying it, though I remember some vaguely porny scenes based in some like porn temple group. I enjoyed the idea though, a pile of gods create 12 magic swords with different abilities and hand them out to people at random to see who will collect them all and rule the mortals. Some of the swords were rather neat, one made you super lucky but would vanish from you at random and help your enemies. One sword guided you to whatever you wanted but it took the hardest possible route. One made you immune to any weapons but if a dude came at you barehanded the sword did nothing and you essentially auto-lost in a fight against anyone unarmed because you couldn't drop the sword in a fight. I remember my favorite being a sword that would make you an unstoppable berserk fighter who could defend any area but it didn't give a gently caress about the wielders health, so until every enemy is dead you can't die but the sword does nothing to prevent you getting injured so you win the battle but you are not going to live.

I'm fairly sure the Book of Swords tied into a bunch of poo poo from his previous series but I read it without the prequels and still got the vibe. The world was post apocalypse after a pile of nukes dropped and some super AI like wrote itself into the fabric of existence and hosed with how nukes worked to stop it. This led to the AI becoming a godlike being, the biggest nuke turned into some kind of devil equivalent and magic starts to exist. However magic didn't work around technology so even like a regular dude in a well forged suit of armor just straight prevented magic from working so it was just used to gently caress with people in like dining halls and poo poo and wizards were only vaguely useful. I truly wonder how that series holds up, I remember liking his Sci-Fi books as well; I believe the sci-fi series was called Berserker.

TGG fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Mar 19, 2022

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

TGG posted:

I remember liking his Sci-Fi books as well; I believe the sci-fi series was called Berserker.

Yeah the Berserker stories were great, there's an old one called Berserker's Planet which mixes fantasy and sci-fi. A crashed Berserker AI has created a fighting tournament on a regressed colony world, all the best fighters kill each other off and then the winner gets a "prize" (death) from the Berserker god. Some great sword and sorcery barbarian stuff mixed with the killer robot, and then some big game hunters from off-world crash the party. There's a couple fixup Berserker novels from the 90s that are pretty bad though, totally padded up page counts.

The Moon Monster
Dec 30, 2005

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Man that's like being mad that a book called "Paring Knife" isn't about tomatoes

Aren't the full titles of the Dragonlance books Dragonlance: Dragons of the [season] [thing] though?

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

The Moon Monster posted:

Aren't the full titles of the Dragonlance books Dragonlance: Dragons of the [season] [thing] though?

Dragons of the Thyme Dispenser

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

Yeah the Berserker stories were great, there's an old one called Berserker's Planet which mixes fantasy and sci-fi. A crashed Berserker AI has created a fighting tournament on a regressed colony world, all the best fighters kill each other off and then the winner gets a "prize" (death) from the Berserker god. Some great sword and sorcery barbarian stuff mixed with the killer robot, and then some big game hunters from off-world crash the party. There's a couple fixup Berserker novels from the 90s that are pretty bad though, totally padded up page counts.

Yeah, I remember at least one late Berserker book that seemed to have a kind of anti-abortion/right to life theme to it, which was weird. There was another that was basically Moby Dick but in space with a Berserker which was okay, but like you said, it was longer than it needed to be.

The earlier stuff was good, and the shared anthology Berserker Base was great, to my mind eclipsing the original author.

Rhandhali
Sep 7, 2003

This is Free Trader Beowulf, calling anyone...
Grimey Drawer

DicktheCat posted:

Can't you actually get a version of this that's been collected and bound? Or was that an art project someone did?

Not sure about Morrowind but they did make books from the in game text for Skyrim, and apparently for Elder Scrolls Online.

https://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scroll...ps%2C156&sr=8-6

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

AARD VARKMAN posted:

What is Vegetable Peeler about if it's not about vegetables??

It's actually a spy novel. Vegetable Peeler is the main character's code name.

Lord Awkward
Feb 16, 2012


There's a whole site dedicated to the in-game books and lore from the Elder Scrolls games, the Imperial Library, so you can read everything without having to play through again. Plenty of extras as well.

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006
I remember enjoying the heck out of The Black Gryphon by Mercedes Lackey (no one ever brings her up when discussing fantasy, which is weird because she was quite prolific and not a bad writer), mainly because of how different it was.

A war is happening, sure, but besides the opening and ending we don't see any of it. 90% of the book is MASH with wizards and fantasy monsters chillin' in the medic camps, fixin' wounds and doing physical therapy. Not much plot but super entertaining.

I also remember there being a character that expressed complex PTSD in a sympathetic manner, which I myself had as a kid and was the first time I'd ever seen it discussed. Super progressive for the time.

There are two sequels but I never read them. Highly recommended

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

The Moon Monster posted:

Aren't the full titles of the Dragonlance books Dragonlance: Dragons of the [season] [thing] though?

dragons of the lunchtime rush

dragons of the hybrid prius

dragons of the grande latte

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Another "weird but not bad" is Mary Gentle's "Rats and Gargoyles".

Got its rough edges but some interesting stuff.

Unfortunately, people can't hear "Mary Gentle" without immediately jumping to some of her most questionable work.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



Atopian posted:

Another "weird but not bad" is Mary Gentle's "Rats and Gargoyles".

Got its rough edges but some interesting stuff.

Unfortunately, people can't hear "Mary Gentle" without immediately jumping to some of her most questionable work.

What is her more questionable work? I am a huge fan ever since I read Golden Witchbreed and have most of what she's written and while some of it's not great it's all still enjoyable.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Mad Hamish posted:

What is her more questionable work? I am a huge fan ever since I read Golden Witchbreed and have most of what she's written and while some of it's not great it's all still enjoyable.

The usual problem is "Grunts".

Which is a pity, because her "Ash: A Secret History" is one of the best fantasy books I've ever read, without qualifiers.

TGG
Aug 8, 2003

"I Dare."
I was thinking about those Swords books after a day of work doing jack poo poo and I think I remember my favorite story. One guy has a sword that makes you supernaturally perceptive and anyone who sees you while you are holding it sees you as someone they know, someone who they would answer to positively and honestly without question. He is infiltrating something and there is this bad guy there who has the immune to any weapon sword, which also immune to the weirdo sword magic and he can just see through that poo poo. So the final fight in the story is just these 2 guys picking up and throwing away the swords for like 3 pages. The man holding the deception sword is tough to attack because he sounds like your wife or whatever and he has supernaturally good timing. The other sword is just instant death if the other guy holds anything. So it's this fight between how quickly can one of them process the supernatural information they get from holding the stealth sword and use it to pick out the timings of the other guys movement, than use that adjusted time to pick out the correct moment to drop it so that if the other dudes sword triggers he's hosed because you have no weapon and he is stuck helpless against anything. It's just solid prose about a pile of guys just juggling swords and I always thought it worked. It was the kinda joyous nonsense I enjoyed in books as a youth.

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Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Mr.Chill posted:

I remember being frustrated that most Dragonlance books were not specifically about and starring dragons, then found the Douglas Niles book "Dragonlance: The Dragons" and my wish was granted.

It was pretty good, if I remember correctly.

lol you want dragons I'll get you dragons



loving choke on it

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