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Fozzy The Bear posted:Got an offer for a job with the city I live in. I will be a city employee. I am in California, getting CalPers pension. Reading the employment offer it says: Not a bad idea to find out if the union does anything worthwhile, but if it does, then yes join the union. Don’t be a scab. If it does not, join also and then rile folks up to fix it
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Got an offer for a job with the city I live in. I will be a city employee. I am in California, getting CalPers pension. Reading the employment offer it says: Some places do not allow closed shops. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_shop. Your new employer is likely an open shop.
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I got about two weeks of facilities maintenance work at a start-up, and was very much still learning the ropes/skills needed for the career, but I really liked what I was doing. Previously I had only had minimum wage and adjacent manual labor and retail jobs. How do I stay on the Facilities career path with as little experience as I have? Edit: That makes it sound like I got fired. I didn't, but the company is just downsizing and well, I'm new. Vinny Possum fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Mar 18, 2022 |
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Vinny Possum posted:I got about two weeks of facilities maintenance work at a start-up, and was very much still learning the ropes/skills needed for the career, but I really liked what I was doing. Previously I had only had minimum wage and adjacent manual labor and retail jobs. How do I stay on the Facilities career path with as little experience as I have? Look for jobs you think are going to be the right fit. Adjust your resume, don't lie or make up skills but be creative in how you maybe take some of those skills you were starting to learn in the 2 weeks and try to goose them with experience in your previous jobs. Basically start tailoring how you present your skills with a specific job in mind.
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Lockback posted:Look for jobs you think are going to be the right fit. Adjust your resume, don't lie or make up skills but be creative in how you maybe take some of those skills you were starting to learn in the 2 weeks and try to goose them with experience in your previous jobs. Basically start tailoring how you present your skills with a specific job in mind. That makes sense. On a related note, how does one get into a "real career job"? Nearly every opening I see requires years of experience, and I kinda stumbled into the job that's currently downsizing because a startup bought the property my old job was on and hired some of the employees (myself included) without the usual qualifications. I was learning the new position fast, and doing well at it, but it was completely unrelated to anything I had done before.
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Vinny Possum posted:That makes sense. On a related note, how does one get into a "real career job"? Nearly every opening I see requires years of experience, and I kinda stumbled into the job that's currently downsizing because a startup bought the property my old job was on and hired some of the employees (myself included) without the usual qualifications. I was learning the new position fast, and doing well at it, but it was completely unrelated to anything I had done before. Just apply anyway or lie and apply anyway. gently caress exp requirements.
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Heyo. Idea scouring the minds of goons: making a post to check what I last posted in here, and then maybe editing this post … but basically: If I don’t want to break into software or sales, what trades or other (very flexible or self-employed) sorts of jobs are out there that can make alright (70k-ish) money without too much trouble? I went to college for geology, have 4 years experience as a concrete petrographer (not AASHTO / ASTM C856 certified sadly) and now 1 year as an environmental protection specialist for FEMA, but the FEMA position is intermittent - so it’s really more like 8 months experience. I’m applying to relevant government jobs as soon as they open up and ideally see myself doing the FEMA thing for decades to come - but government hiring is slow. My boss seems to think I’m good at reviewing government plans for compliance issues and liable to move up in the long run. Which is good! But, stupidly, reserve FEMA employees don’t enjoy USERRA protections, so I am pondering something I could conceivably do on my own between FEMA work or where the people in charge are used to people coming and going… besides the obvious entry level stuff out there that has constant churn and hire just about anyone. also nixing welding, electrician, electric lineman, wind turbine, oilfield, heavy construction, and pesticide / herbicide positions out of my risk averse nature disclaimer: if a horrible disaster occurs in the near future i’ll probably have stuff to do and might end up getting promoted into something full time and non-intermittent and won’t have to worry about this
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Maybe look into consulting at companies like HDR, Black and Veatch, Burns and McDowell, Terracon, Klienfelder, TetraTech, and others like them. Maybe look into soil boring companies. These jobs are probably not as flexible as you are asking for but might be worth looking at. The enviro services companies like AECOM and Tetratech tend to have field positions doing animal and plant surveys.
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posted about this in nonprofit thread, but sharing/elaborating here... my job title has been grants coordinator or grants writer in nonprofit field for my last four positions. basically 'learned' grantwriting gradually shifting from direct service work. so i'm a generalist without a specific focus, and not an expert in a particular field (experience in out of school time, healthcare, workforce development, vocational training) . this could be a positive attribute because i'm adaptable, but a lot of the much higher paying positions require specialty degrees/are more technical. i make 52k/year with absolutely horrible health insurance primarily driven out of a desire to make more money, i am wanting to apply my experience and skills to a different type of position altogether. the only thing i know i absolutely do not want to do is deal with individual donors. beyond that i'm easy. i'm open to anything at this point, nonprofit, for profit, govt, etc i know it's all a matter of how i sell myself, but grant writing doesn't seem to necessarily have an upward trajectory if you're not versed in other elements of development. if i'm not going to (or want to) pursue becoming a development director or an ED it's probably time to jump ship. if i could get a 10k bump by joining another org as grant writer, that would be great, but in a couple years i'll be in the same spot i am now, looking to get out i'm starting my search in county/city government, i feel the pay and benefits there would be a substantial change the dream would be freelance, but i have no idea where to begin there. i have an LLC registered and a domain name i do nothing with. being a small business owner isn't something you can just do overnight (unless you're rich) global tetrahedron fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Mar 20, 2022 |
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global tetrahedron posted:primarily driven out of a desire to make more money, i am wanting to apply my experience and skills to a different type of position altogether. the only thing i know i absolutely do not want to do is deal with individual donors. beyond that i'm easy. i'm open to anything at this point, nonprofit, for profit, govt, etc I don't know a ton about grant writing, so forgive me if this is obvious, but are you interested in a different writing-heavy position? I work for a software company that sells a very technical product, but we have quite a few people on our marketing team who produce written content, and their level of technical knowledge/skill varies a lot. I've been on the hiring team for some of them, so I have an idea of their backgrounds. I can provide some more info on their titles and duties if it would be helpful.
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I definitely would be interested in anything writing-oriented. I have been quite curious about technical writing, I'd assumed for whatever reason that one would need engineer-level expertise related to whatever they're writing about, but I'm getting the sense that that is not the case. Put another way, grantwriting is adjacent to marketing. I don't know if I'd want to be a full-on marketer, but I'm open-minded.
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Cool! I spent many years as a technical writer and now do product marketing. I'm honestly not sure I've met any tech writers who have an engineering background. I just have an English degree. These days, there are a lot of technical writing certification courses out there, some of which are offered by universities. Of course, a certification will only get you so far, but you can potentially combine it with things like contributing documentation to open source projects to add some technical flavor to your resume. I also recommend checking out Write the Docs. In terms of marketing writing roles, this is the variety that I see at my employer:
We also hire freelancers to produce medium-form and long-form content (like blog posts, customer case studies, white papers), so that's definitely a niche that's out there, although I'm not sure how people get started with that type of freelancing.
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My wife was a copywriter/editor at a big company for several years, then switched over to freelance/part-time writing blogs, case studies and web copy on her schedule. Her freelance clients are a mix of people she has worked with in previous roles, and people/recruiters who have reached out to her via LinkedIn. So networking and keeping your LI bio fresh for sure helps if you want to get into freelance writing.
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I'm an established architect looking to pivot into a related but distinct field and am meeting a lot of people doing information interviews. A question of etiquette: do I let people know my full job-seeking intentions in my elevator pitch? Or do I frame it as "I'm looking to learn more about these skills and would like to talk with you". Example: I'm going to a new firm's happy hour and wonder how much I should reveal to the principal in our email exchange prior to the event. I have a lot of anxiety about first impressions, so a little guidence would be helpful. Thanks!
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I think "I'm considering all career opportunities" would get the point across but maybe keeps a veneer that you aren't prostituting yourself for a job. Don't keep bringing it up, that sorta signals desperation but mentioning it is ok.
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nobody goes on an informational interview if they aren't like at minimum lowkey looking for a job
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Does anyone here know anything about the Google Career Certificates? They look like a good way to build skills and get out of minimum wage adjacent jobs, but I'd like to hear a bit from people who know more about the professional world than I do before I commit to something.
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ERP implementation is a circle of hell so you're not crazy burning out on that. Did you like the operation job with the weed dispensary? Because you could probably bounce to something like that pretty easily. Even if just to do something that doesn't absolutely suck while you plan the next thing. A more risky plan: Any dependents habits or debt? Because you could save as much as possible for a bit, quit and then spend some time just doing hobbies and recharging a little. I stress having something to do because the tricky part about burnout is that just resting often doesn't help past a certain time period. It's like rehabbing an injury, have to work a little in the right ways to heal. I think to make a good career pivot, you've got to stop the "bleeding" first and get your head right. You've got to decide how to do that from your own situation.
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I left academia almost a year ago to take an account management role for a consulting/technology company in a similar area to my academic discipline. I've really enjoyed my time and I see a great future with the company... but part of me wants to take advantage of the insane job market. The pay is good for where I live, but in the age of remote work the same titled job at a bigger company would pay 50% more. The challenge is that if I want to jump, I'd be jumping to a similar account management role but in a field where my academic background is essentially wasted (think niche tech to Big Tech). Is it crazy to consider that? When I look at similarly titled roles at big companies (Director level), short of the years of experience, I meet all the other requirements (account value, renewals, cross sales, leadership). I don't want to return to academia.
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Just apply and see what happens? No way to know without getting out there
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Upgrade posted:I left academia almost a year ago to take an account management role for a consulting/technology company in a similar area to my academic discipline. I've really enjoyed my time and I see a great future with the company... but part of me wants to take advantage of the insane job market. The pay is good for where I live, but in the age of remote work the same titled job at a bigger company would pay 50% more. The challenge is that if I want to jump, I'd be jumping to a similar account management role but in a field where my academic background is essentially wasted (think niche tech to Big Tech). Is it crazy to consider that? When I look at similarly titled roles at big companies (Director level), short of the years of experience, I meet all the other requirements (account value, renewals, cross sales, leadership). I don't want to return to academia. If you have the energy to do so just start applying. Once you have an offer from a specific company it will be easier for you to weigh how much relevance to your academics matters
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Coming back to this thread after a couple of months to share my gratitude for the advice folks here gave me. It started the ball rolling on my decision to formally request a significant raise and annual bonus earlier today. We'll see what happens with that, but the way I see it, either I'll get what I asked for or I'll learn that the company doesn't see my contributions the same way that I do (which would be highly motivating to find a new job elsewhere). Either way, I think my life will improve, and I'm not sure I would've had the confidence to advocate for myself like that before coming here. Thank you!
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Hello thread, Is there some sort of class or test that has you try a bunch of different things to see what sort of job you might like and/or have an aptitude for? I could obviously sample a bunch of different things on my own but I'm interested in a program designed to do this, where I might find an affinity for something I would have never even thought to try. I recall reading a article where a woman tried something like this and discovered she enjoyed doing electrical work, but the article made no mention of what it's called. My searches so far just get me career quizzes and programs for high school students.
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goochtit posted:Hello thread, I had always heard of them as aptitude tests.
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I’ve been in my field for over 15 years now, and keep moving up incrementally in management. That’s great and all, but I keep having to train myself and learn how to be effective by bumbling through and faking it until I make it, so to speak. Coupled with this, my industry in notorious for its reluctance to sign paycheques. Sales staff get fat commissions, and cash bonuses are rained down upon top performers (you made a lot of money? Good job, here’s more money as a reward!), which is getting sickening and demeaning. I just don’t know where to go from here. There have been many promises made but nothing is materializing. I know I’m worth a poo poo ton more than I’m making, but I don’t know how to get it. It seems with great performance comes great responsibility, and that means lip-service appreciation but no compensation. I’m sure the advice will be to move on, but it’s systemic in this business, and hiring in my tier is infrequent. I do keep my eyes open. I’ve considered leaving the industry, but I’ve specialized my skill set a lot and changing lanes would mean starting way down the ladder to climb back up again. A bit TLDR and E/N but I’m just feeling at a loss.
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If you're in management your skillset is not nearly unique or specialized as you think it is. People overestimate how unique their job is and underestimate how often people convert skills over all the time regardless.
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Gin posted:I had always heard of them as aptitude tests.
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So my wife is figuring out what to do to reenter the workforce. She has an English degree from right around the economic crash in 2008 and hasn't really used it. She studied to be a certified medical assistant and worked for a year, but quit to be a stay-at-home mom when we had twins. After six years, she really doesn't want to get re-certified as a CMA. She would like remote work if possible and open to attending community college for a complete career change if needed. Any ideas? Maybe computer toucher?
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DTaeKim posted:So my wife is figuring out what to do to reenter the workforce. She has an English degree from right around the economic crash in 2008 and hasn't really used it. She studied to be a certified medical assistant and worked for a year, but quit to be a stay-at-home mom when we had twins. After six years, she really doesn't want to get re-certified as a CMA. She would like remote work if possible and open to attending community college for a complete career change if needed. What does she have aptitude and like to do? It's kinda hard to say without knowing what kind of things she is good at. There are courses to be a medical transcriptionist and insurance-code-clerk-person that might be a good fit, but hard to say.
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Is technical writing still a thing? Is there a reputable place to find those jobs? Last time I looked it was all shady companies paying peanuts simplefish fucked around with this message at 08:26 on May 10, 2022 |
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It is a thing but the last time I did it, it was for a company trying to come up with bid language that would exclude other vendors without technically excluding other vendors and they paid me under the table via paypal.
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Basically she likes to write. She's looked into copywriting, copyediting, technical writer, and potentially medical writing but we're not sure how to start. She said she's basically willing to do whatever though and would like remote work if feasible.
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DTaeKim posted:Basically she likes to write. She's looked into copywriting, copyediting, technical writer, and potentially medical writing but we're not sure how to start. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3533210&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=64#post521469009 This is a post about how to be a copywriter.
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mr.belowaverage posted:I’ve been in my field for over 15 years now, and keep moving up incrementally in management. That’s great and all, but I keep having to train myself and learn how to be effective by bumbling through and faking it until I make it, so to speak. I could have written this post word-for-word. Can't do much but commiserate. I had an additional jolt this year (posted earlier) when I found out that some faceless comp person had silently downgraded my comp package based on arbitrary criteria without talking to my manager (so he says) and without knowing anything about me or what I do. I argued that they should restore it retroactively and apparently that's going through the approvals now, but it has damaged my desire to stay here. I've been looking for equivalent roles elsewhere but, as you say, at a certain level they don't come up that often. I guess the key is to either be patient and assume that it takes time to find the right new opportunity, or to radically start educating yourself into a new type of role (or both.) In the meantime, just hang in there and do what you need to do. No point in getting salty and damaging your current situation.
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The best advice is your skills are more transferrable than you think. Everyone thinks that their skillset is unique to the sub-niche they worked in, but reality is everyone manages teams very similarly. I'm not saying you can go get any management job but you are almost certainly being too conservative in how far narrow you think your lane is, and how far off it you can look.
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Lockback posted:The best advice is your skills are more transferrable than you think. Everyone thinks that their skillset is unique to the sub-niche they worked in, but reality is everyone manages teams very similarly. I'm not saying you can go get any management job but you are almost certainly being too conservative in how far narrow you think your lane is, and how far off it you can look. I would have assumed this is the case, but my experiences are suggesting otherwise. Ignoring specific requirements for experience, I have sent my resume off to a number of companies with postings I know I could do with a little training crash course. Many of them now have little quizzes to fill out, which you can stretch the truth in, to your peril, to at least get your application through the auto filters. Even beyond that, I haven’t had so much as a phone call. I’m frustrated with my current employer, and the lack of response opportunities. I have 15 years of incrementally increasing responsibility and stated successes. They don’t all have to hire me, but not even a call? As a manager who hires for many roles, I’d call me in a heartbeat. The fact that I’m not-so-recently-anymore single, and my dating success is following the same pattern is making me think I just have a stink of failure on me or something. But this isn’t an e/n thread.
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Probably it's how you're presenting yourself not who you are . They are unfortunately different skills. ou can post your redacted resume on SA for feedback. There's probably something like that for online dating, idk.
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mr.belowaverage posted:They don’t all have to hire me, but not even a call? As a manager who hires for many roles, I’d call me in a heartbeat. I don't mean to be unsympathetic, but this is SA. Would you hire me? I'd hire me. I'd hire me so hard. quote:Ignoring specific requirements for experience, I have sent my resume off to a number of companies with postings I know I could do with a little training crash course. Many of them now have little quizzes to fill out, which you can stretch the truth in, to your peril, to at least get your application through the auto filters. Even beyond that, I haven’t had so much as a phone call. In general, you might be marketing yourself wrong, not have done a serious rewrite of your resume since you were in college if you've been in one place for a long time. You may be at the level where you need to have multiple versions of your resume for different types of jobs. The other thing is networking, it's always much easier to get jobs if you know people and if people know you. Unfortunately, this isn't something that you can cram like a test, but you can start attending events, making comments on LinkedIn, joining relevant industry groups and commenting on the big threads, and maybe write an article on LinkedIn, I've written a couple of short articles and they get a number of views.
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