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thrawn527 posted:Hey HEY, I believe I started this whole thing by saying I wasn't judging... Doronin posted:Co-signing on a trip report! Come visit the Disney World for First Timers thread in A/T Travel and Tourism. I'm anxious to see a candid, real-person account of the experience.
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Since we all seem to be enjoying dunking on Starcruiser, the lightsaber training looks awful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsLpI-lAfM4 Surely there's a more action-oriented version you could do while still maintaining safety?
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feedmyleg posted:Since we all seem to be enjoying dunking on Starcruiser, the lightsaber training looks awful: That is sad. I mean, funny. But also sad.
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I see the next wave of The Essential Legends Collection reprints comes out next month and there's some old EU books I haven't read in it. How does the thread rate Kenobi, Darth Plagueis, and the Darth Bane trilogy?
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Mar 2, 2022 16:31
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Kenobi is great. Darth Plagueis is pretty fun. I have no opinion on the Darth Bane stuff but the internet seems to really like it.
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Mar 2, 2022 16:39
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Kenobi: I agree, really great. If you liked the Tusken stuff in Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett, there's a bit of the Kenobi DNA in it. It's sad that it seems like, at least from the rumors, the Kenobi TV show will be nothing at all like the book. Darth Plagueis: Also agree that it's really fun, but be warned: there are a TON of EU references in this. Luceno is known for weaving in EU stuff but this sends that habit into overdrive. Really, anything that even remotely touches Plagueis or the movie-era Sith is incorporated into this. There's at least one chapter which is a retelling of a scene from a novel that came out ten years earlier, but from Palpatine's POV. I wouldn't say you absolutely have to read the other EU stuff first to enjoy this (and to be clear, I do like it as its own thing) but without a doubt, enjoyment of it will be boosted by knowing a lot of the earlier EU. It's also interesting because it ties the EU into a lot of things from the Clone Wars TV show that was just coming out at the time, so it's almost like a weird little alternate glimpse at how Clone Wars stuff might have developed in a world where the Disney purchase never happened. Bane Trilogy: The first Bane novel was all right, but I think it kind of suffers because Karpyshyn goes out of his way to tie it into KOTOR to the point it semi feels like an alternate KOTOR II. Like Plagueis, it also incorporates pretty much all the pre-existing Bane media into it, but Karpyshyn will put his own spin on it, including what I remember to be characterizations of some of the characters from Jedi vs. Sith that feels very off (and lesser) than the original comics depictions. That being said, the first entry in the Bane trilogy is still fine, but I think they're diminishing returns. Maybe read the first one and that's it.
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I just reread (relistened) to Kenobi a few weeks ago and got sucked back in. I’d say it’s actually one of the best EU books ever written. I was hesitant when it first came out because what could Obi-Wan actually get up to on Tatooine between episodes III & IV? But it blew away all my expectations. Once BOBF got going I doubted that Kenobi would have much to do with the book. I figured there wouldn’t end up being two Tusken heavy series back to back like that. I haven’t read anything about what it actually will be about and am hoping it’s all a pleasant surprise with whatever they decided to do with it. Edit: In my enthusiasm to talk about Kenobi I forgot to mention that Darth Plagueis is also an excellent book. It’s basically Luceno taking all the various prequel media and telling a backstory that coherently connects it all into Palpatine’s and his master’s scheming. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Casimir Radon posted:Once BOBF got going I doubted that Kenobi would have much to do with the book. I figured there wouldn’t end up being two Tusken heavy series back to back like that. I haven’t read anything about what it actually will be about and am hoping it’s all a pleasant surprise with whatever they decided to do with it. With the caveat that this is all rumor, the generally accepted premise is: Ten year old Princess Leia is kidnapped by the Empire, so Bail Organa recruits Obi-Wan to leave Tatooine to rescue Leia from the Inquisitors and Vader. Which suffice to say, is about 100% the opposite in both tone and plot from Kenobi the book. And also just kind of dumb overall. But who knows if that will actually end up being the plot or not.
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I did not like Plagueis, maybe because I never bothered to get real into the prequel era EU. I could not tell you what happens in it, nor could I tell you anything about Plagueis's personality. I think Sheev goes on a date in it? Edit: Kenobi's great, though. Just A+, should read again.
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I don't remember a date, but Palpatine does have a line where he mentions about having a girl in every port. No mention of any of them resulting in three-eyed bastards, though.
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What’s funny is Luceno had to establish that Palpatine hates his first name and demands to be called by his surname. Probably because Lucasfilm didn’t want to have to come up with one, or he feared making up a dumb one that everyone hated. Then a few years later he ends up being the first one to establish “Sheev” as Palp’s first name. Edit: My only real exposure to pre-TCW prequels media was YA novels so I only really knew the broad strokes of the stuff that was getting referenced. Still liked it a lot. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Mar 2, 2022 |
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Thanks for the reviews goons! I'll pick them all up!
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Old Legends question. I don't have my star wars books with me at the moment so I'm wondering if someone could answer for me. I remember there was a short story in one of the Republic Commando novels where Skirata first comes to Kamino and meets the Null Arc Troopers. Did he also meet young Boba Fett during that story?
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I don't think he did "on-screen", or at least the flashback version didn't mention it, but he did know Jango pretty well so it's likely he knew Boba too. ETA: I hate gboard. Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 6, 2022 |
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Mar 6, 2022 20:32
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I have a vague memory of a scene in which Boba stops by to talk with Skirata while carrying baby Boba in his arms and mentioning something to the effect of it being part of his own fee for working there.
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feedmyleg posted:Since we all seem to be enjoying dunking on Starcruiser, the lightsaber training looks awful: "Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi were a great team, they stuck together, just like you are now!" Yeah, they sure stuck together on the Death Star when Ben immediately ditched the gang as soon as they landed. 
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I went to see my parents and childhood home and managed to find pretty much every single X-Wing Series book that I read in my childhood (I think I'm only missing one). I was wondering if they are actually worth reading again: I haven't read an SW book since I was a teenager. Are there any books in the series absolutely worth reading? Any stinkers that I should miss out on?
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Tekopo posted:I went to see my parents and childhood home and managed to find pretty much every single X-Wing Series book that I read in my childhood (I think I'm only missing one). I was wondering if they are actually worth reading again: I haven't read an SW book since I was a teenager. Are there any books in the series absolutely worth reading? Any stinkers that I should miss out on? I'm reading through them again at the moment, about halfway through Iron Fist. As an adult, their flaws are a little more obvious: both Stackpole and Allston really love delving into minor tangents that read like they wanted to get their money's worth out of the notes they took, and some of the character arcs begin and get wrapped up rather quickly. But that also means that the books are trying to give arcs to multiple characters, which is not something a lot of the novels tackle. And on the whole they do a pretty good job. Allston's version of Zsinj is still probably my favorite villain from the old EU, just a guy playing the character of a silly shouty warlord to a tee as he builds a massive financial empire to support his rule. So far, The Bacta War was the only I didn't particularly care. It felt a bit extraneous, most of the series' plots having been wrapped up in the previous book. I also never made it through Mercy Kill despite having tried twice. It was pretty wrapped up in the bad parts of the EU which I'm unfamiliar with. I'm gonna give it another shot this go around. On a possibly related note, does anybody know when it was established that TIE fighters run without shields? It seems so much like a balance issue that I have to assume it was in the original X-wing game, but I'm wondering if that was an idea that might have been pulled out of a sourcebook somewhere. It's weird that something that likely started explicitly as a game mechanic became such an integral part of Star Wars lore.
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I've read the first chapter or so of Rogue Squadron so far and it's pretty funny that the very first thing that the book tackles is a mission with the X-Wing videogame that I actually remember playing.
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Rochallor posted:On a possibly related note, does anybody know when it was established that TIE fighters run without shields? It seems so much like a balance issue that I have to assume it was in the original X-wing game, but I'm wondering if that was an idea that might have been pulled out of a sourcebook somewhere. It's weird that something that likely started explicitly as a game mechanic became such an integral part of Star Wars lore. The basic TIEs didn't have shields in the WEG rpg (which predates X-Wing). I'm not sure if it originated there or in something like the novelisations for the films
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Tekopo posted:I went to see my parents and childhood home and managed to find pretty much every single X-Wing Series book that I read in my childhood (I think I'm only missing one). I was wondering if they are actually worth reading again: I haven't read an SW book since I was a teenager. Are there any books in the series absolutely worth reading? Any stinkers that I should miss out on? Starfighters of Adumar is an absolute winner.
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thrawn527 posted:Starfighters of Adumar is an absolute winner.  Aaron Allston’s three Wraith Squadron books (Wraith Squadron, Iron Fist, and Solo Command) are very, very good.
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Tekopo posted:I went to see my parents and childhood home and managed to find pretty much every single X-Wing Series book that I read in my childhood (I think I'm only missing one). I was wondering if they are actually worth reading again: I haven't read an SW book since I was a teenager. Are there any books in the series absolutely worth reading? Any stinkers that I should miss out on? Mercy Kill is good for what it is and when it was written/set, but definitely feel free to skip it. It wasn't originally mean to be an X-wing book, and like Rochallor said it's so tied up with the terrible late-00s EU that even if it's good on its own, it builds off a poo poo foundation. I'll also give a warning to Isard's Revenge, not because it's bad - it's definitely not, but just as a head's up that it's a direct sequel to both the Thrawn Trilogy and the X-wing comics (which are set a few years before the books, and which otherwise don't have a ton of crossover with the books). So you might need a bit of understanding of both of those series in order to get the most out of that one.
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The first “proper” trailer for Obi-Wan Kenobi dropped today. https://youtu.be/TWTfhyvzTx0
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Finished Alphabet squad a few weeks ago and haven’t really read since, dunno why it hit me. Was a huge reader when I was young, could eat a book a day and just stopped in middle school, all those 90s Star Wars books back then. Now in my late 30s been rereading them before bed. But poo poo alpha just broke me. No heroes but in a real way
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a sexual elk posted:Finished Alphabet squad a few weeks ago and haven’t really read since, dunno why it hit me. Was a huge reader when I was young, could eat a book a day and just stopped in middle school, all those 90s Star Wars books back then. Now in my late 30s been rereading them before bed. But poo poo alpha just broke me. No heroes but in a real way Still some of the most underrated modern canon books imo I'm waiting for the flight sim that lets us listen to trashy alien punk on our B-Wing's 8-track 
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Cross-Section posted:Still some of the most underrated modern canon books imo Squadrons?
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bunnyofdoom posted:Squadrons? No 8-track
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Also the B-wing was added months after the game came out when the balance was semi-broken and mostly it deserted by then. Still fun and I wish they'd make a more developed sequel.
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The only multiplayer Star Wars game I'd buy is one where you can be in the weeds of ground combat, find a space ship, seamlessly fly to a battle happening in space above the planet, get shot down, crash land as you jetpack to safety, and seamlessly jump back into the ground combat battle. It's just baffling to me that Battlefront wasn't built for that from the ground up, seeing as how that was one of the main appeals of Battlefield 1942 twenty years ago. Every map should just be littered with clone NPCs and players who are jumping in and out of a plethora of vehicles. Less realism, more cartoon heroics.
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feedmyleg posted:The only multiplayer Star Wars game I'd buy is one where you can be in the weeds of ground combat, find a space ship, seamlessly fly to a battle happening in space above the planet, get shot down, crash land as you jetpack to safety, and seamlessly jump back into the ground combat battle. It's just baffling to me that Battlefront wasn't built for that from the ground up, seeing as how that was one of the main appeals of Battlefield 1942 twenty years ago. Every map should just be littered with clone NPCs and players who are jumping in and out of a plethora of vehicles. Less realism, more cartoon heroics. That was what (original) Battlefront III was going to be, wasn't it? The new Battlefront games are fine for casual play and the single campaign in the second one is also decent (and draws in a lot of stuff from the nu-EU) but it is funny that Star Wars multiplayer peaked in 2005. Also funny that even though the Battlefront name was so notable it was one of the few things to survive the continuity reset, neither version of the game series we're going to get a Battlefront III. On a different note, a concept artist for Rise of Skywalker released some of his work that hadn't been released before. Nothing hugely new, but does show that the idea of Kylo Ren going to Coruscant from the Treverrow script did survive for at least a bit into the Abrams production: https://jonmccoyart.com/blog/starwars-the-rise-of-skywalker-sketchbook
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Chairman Capone posted:That was what (original) Battlefront III was going to be, wasn't it? Those abandoned coruscant images are loving dope. That looks so cool, the idea of a city inhabited by trillions being abandoned is awesome.
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Good news about the Rogue Squadron movie, if/when it ever gets made: https://twitter.com/Jedi4Liberty/status/1505262141212958720 Also drat, Stackpole looks old. Crazy also to think his last Star Wars work was 22 years ago now.
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feedmyleg posted:The only multiplayer Star Wars game I'd buy is one where you can be in the weeds of ground combat, find a space ship, seamlessly fly to a battle happening in space above the planet, get shot down, crash land as you jetpack to safety, and seamlessly jump back into the ground combat battle. It's just baffling to me that Battlefront wasn't built for that from the ground up, seeing as how that was one of the main appeals of Battlefield 1942 twenty years ago. Every map should just be littered with clone NPCs and players who are jumping in and out of a plethora of vehicles. Less realism, more cartoon heroics. if you still have access to bf1942 i'd recommend checking out the monthly events for the mod Galactic Conquest battlefront basically ripped it off and simplified it heavily. you can't go into orbit or anything but it's star wars bf1942 which still makes it one of the best star wars games
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Chairman Capone posted:Good news about the Rogue Squadron movie, if/when it ever gets made:
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Get ready to reset your enthusiasm! Stackpole has clarified that he was misquoted by that guy and he has not in fact been in contact with Patty Jenkins.
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Excerpt was just released from Shadow of the Sith, the post-ROTJ Lando/Luke team-up novel. https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-shadow-of-the-sith-cover-exclusive-excerpt Has what I think is the first reference to The Mandalorian in a prose work, as well as something that fans had only been hoping for since the sequel trilogy was announced a decade ago: Luke being visited by Anakin's ghost. Still absolutely cannot believe we never got that on screen. And that even Anakin's Force voice in TROS was on the same level as Aayla Secura and Kanan.
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My girlfriend picked me up a copy of The Secret History of Star Wars , after years of wanting it. I think someone, Thrawn maybe, recommended it years and years ago, and I’ve been meaning to pick it up. Very excited to check it out!
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VaultAggie posted:My girlfriend picked me up a copy of The Secret History of Star Wars , after years of wanting it. I think someone, Thrawn maybe, recommended it years and years ago, and I’ve been meaning to pick it up. Very excited to check it out! I've read parts of it presented as free articles on the author's website and while interesting, they've really got a bone to pick.
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I have the ebook copy of what says is the third edition from 2008, but I haven't read it in a while. I remember it being an interesting look at the movies, especially the discarded ideas and influences, but very dismissive of the EU. I think the section on Young Indiana Jones is about as long as his section on the EU. Back when the Disney buyout happened the author was still around and said that once the sequel trilogy was over, he was going to write a sequel book that would basically cover everything at Lucasfilm after the release of Episode III. I think he vanished from online even before TFA came out.
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