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Rand Brittain posted:"Cannot imagine the existence of systemic problems" is honestly such a common thing these days that it really needs some kind of snappy name.
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Sham bam bamina! posted:"Liberal" seems to be the go-to. Unfortunately, the main opposition to "liberal" is "conservative" AKA the ones who that the bugs in the system are features.
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Thank you to whoever was talking about Kalpa Imperial recently. I just finished it and it was really well written. It gave me Dunsany vibes while reading it, but the language felt a little less foggy than Dunsany's.
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I 100% believe that jkr thought she was being provocative and philosophically daring by putting the house elves in. What if slaves, but they wanted it? Hmm? Is that good, or bad, or something else? What do you think, class? Big time "let's have a Serious Conversation about why it's not ok for me to say the n word when other people can" energy
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Nomnom Cookie posted:I 100% believe that jkr thought she was being provocative and philosophically daring by putting the house elves in. What if slaves, but they wanted it? Hmm? Is that good, or bad, or something else? What do you think, class? Maybe some. On the other hand, we do have Harry freeing Dobby from from the Malfoys by arranging for Lord Malfoy to "give" Dobby a sock (I know that's in the movie and I think it's in the book as well). We also have Harry interacting with Kreecher and feeling skeeved out by himself being the "cruel master." Still, overall, it tracks with the idea that Dowling is saying, "You need to be good slave-masters to the house elves" instead of grasping that, y'know, slavery of anything is bad.
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Mar 19, 2022 21:02
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DurianGray posted:Finished a couple of sci-fi books in the last week. One was a unfortunately a disappointment, the other was great.
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Mar 19, 2022 22:48
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The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054LNIQS/ Changing Planes by Ursula K Le Guin and Eric Beddow - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IWTRB4E/
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You people are putting way too much thought into a book series aimed at 10 year olds. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Cardiac posted:You people are putting way too much thought into a book series aimed at 10 year olds. Yeah it's less important because it has an effect on children while they're in formative years
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Cardiac posted:You people are putting way too much thought into a book series aimed at 10 year olds. Hi please go and gently caress off with this dumbass bullshit. If anything, media aimed for children should have a higher bar for including iffy or straight up harmful and bigoted content. To set this specific bar at "whatever lol don't think about it" says a lot about you as a person, imo. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 20, 2022 13:49
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Yeah it's less important because it has an effect on children while they're in formative years I had a weird realization just the other day that I'm very forgiving of problematic stuff in romance novels, but aggressively hate Twilight for the same thing... and oh, I do have a streak of "protect the children!!!" in me. I like to think that I can trust adults to read a book with stalking in it and go "yeah that's not okay" and deal with it, but when I think of teenagers reading the romanticized stalker in Twilight I get super worried. This feels very weird because I've spent a long time going "yeah you don't have to protect the children they're fine and smart and resilient" and some of that is true, and it's good for teens and younger to read fiction that talks about serious stuff, but it IS their formative years and you don't want them to internalize those lessons books can present with zero commentary.
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Cardiac posted:You people are putting way too much thought into a book series aimed at 10 year olds. I like the idea that you shouldn't care what kind of morals are espoused in a book for children, it's like, you shouldn't care about the mystery in an agatha christie novel, you shouldn't care about the relationship in this romance novel. It's kind of the whole loving point.
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Mar 20, 2022 14:08
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Worse for the children: Stephen King or JK Rowling?
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StrixNebulosa posted:I had a weird realization just the other day that I'm very forgiving of problematic stuff in romance novels, but aggressively hate Twilight for the same thing... and oh, I do have a streak of "protect the children!!!" in me. I like to think that I can trust adults to read a book with stalking in it and go "yeah that's not okay" and deal with it, but when I think of teenagers reading the romanticized stalker in Twilight I get super worried. Yeah it's not about protect the children for me, it's about "make sure they're not reading things that will set them on a path to libertarian racist bullshit" or whatever. Same reason I'm not showing my kids paw patrol.
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Eason the Fifth posted:Worse for the children: Stephen King or JK Rowling? Depends a bit on what era of King, but overall, JKR. Stephen King at least has learned and grown over his career and shored up the bits where he was really weird or bigoted or racist. My brother read 'It' when he was 11 which is probably the least creepy age to read it.
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HopperUK posted:Depends a bit on what era of King, but overall, JKR. Stephen King at least has learned and grown over his career and shored up the bits where he was really weird or bigoted or racist. Reading the stand really early I just associated myself with nick Andros,who is definitely a good character. Also harold is a good warning about being a men's rights activist rotting your brain and making you evil.
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HopperUK posted:Depends a bit on what era of King, but overall, JKR. Stephen King at least has learned and grown over his career and shored up the bits where he was really weird or bigoted or racist. And what did he think of the child orgy in that book as an 11 year old?
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StrixNebulosa posted:trust adults to read a book I think this thread is a pretty good argument that you really can't. At some point you just have to let people do what they want, and then you deal with the fact that there's always gonna be someone who thinks it's fine to have a house elf as long as you don't beat it too badly.
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Nomnom Cookie posted:I think this thread is a pretty good argument that you really can't. At some point you just have to let people do what they want, and then you deal with the fact that there's always gonna be someone who thinks it's fine to have a house elf as long as you don't beat it too badly. I mean, all I need to do is look at politics to know that you can't trust adults with literally anything BUT I like to be an optimist and if I start down that road I get into censorship and no thank you
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Mar 20, 2022 16:27
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StrixNebulosa posted:I mean, all I need to do is look at politics to know that you can't trust adults with literally anything BUT I like to be an optimist and if I start down that road I get into censorship and no thank you Still, there's a big difference between actual censorship and you yourself looking at the house elf slave book and going "Nah, that's not for me or my kids."
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They, like the north pole elves, just need to unionize. 
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Life After Life (Todd Family #1) by Kate Atkinson - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008TUQ60G/ Revelator by Daryl Gregory - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PCPL3G7/
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Everyone posted:And what did he think of the child orgy in that book as an 11 year old? He probably skipped past the boring bit so he could get to the next monster.
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pradmer posted:Revelator by Daryl Gregory - $2.99
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Everyone posted:And what did he think of the child orgy in that book as an 11 year old? He was 11 and so were the characters so I doubt he gave a poo poo and probably skipped it to get to the next interesting part.
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HopperUK posted:He was 11 and so were the characters so I doubt he gave a poo poo and probably skipped it to get to the next interesting part. Most kids that age are either "eww, girl/boy cooties" or are secretly curious about the whole sex thing but pretend to be all "eww, cooties". Source: I remember being 11; and am now parent to kids in that age group.
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I'm 40% of the way into The Monster Baru Cormorant (just finished the interludes after the first act) and happy to see that for all its bragging about itself the caliper-fuckers from Falcrest are as riven with internal division as everyone else. But man, things are not going super duper well for our eponymous Baru Cormorant.
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After moving somehow twice in the last few years... I'm settled in my new home enough to finally put together a bookcase and organize it. This is a smaller bookcase in my office and some books are missing (as they're in my folk's place in boxes) - but it's a first step towards having my own library at home. 
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Is the reason you have to keep moving because the library you are stealing books from catches up with you?
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withak posted:Is the reason you have to keep moving because the library you are stealing books from catches up with you? I buy used!
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I love a bit of ex libris, when an Abebooks book shows up and it's got old lamination and interior stamps from a public school library in some obscure place like Chicopee, MA or whatever. Feels nostalgic. (I guess because I never get physical books from my library anymore because I live too far from it. I miss when I lived in London and had one right next to my local tube station.)
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freebooter posted:I love a bit of ex libris, when an Abebooks book shows up and it's got old lamination and interior stamps from a public school library in some obscure place like Chicopee, MA or whatever. Feels nostalgic. (I guess because I never get physical books from my library anymore because I live too far from it. I miss when I lived in London and had one right next to my local tube station.) I have a mixture of random places throughout the US via thriftbooks/betterbooks/etc (thanks ebay) and then some from my hometown library because they sell books while downsizing and I'll take 'em! I took 'em! Mom would bring her checkbook when taking me to the library some months because she knew I wasn't gonna bother borrowing when I could dig through the for-sale stuff.
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I recently got a history book from the charity shop that was printed in 1910 and someone has written an angry note in the front about how it leaves out some admiral or other. I love that stuff. Not underlining/ highlighting, that's boring, but little notes and comments are awesome.
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HopperUK posted:I recently got a history book from the charity shop that was printed in 1910 and someone has written an angry note in the front about how it leaves out some admiral or other. I love that stuff. Not underlining/ highlighting, that's boring, but little notes and comments are awesome. Which admiral because now you've got me curious?
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habeasdorkus posted:I'm 40% of the way into The Monster Baru Cormorant (just finished the interludes after the first act) and happy to see that for all its bragging about itself the caliper-fuckers from Falcrest are as riven with internal division as everyone else. But man, things are not going super duper well for our eponymous Baru Cormorant. This was a hard book to get through. It’s really grim overall and it doesn’t let up. It’s definitely worth reading and Tyrant had a lot of payoff for it though. Stick with it!
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Velius posted:This was a hard book to get through. It’s really grim overall and it doesn’t let up. It’s definitely worth reading and Tyrant had a lot of payoff for it though. Stick with it! I've really enjoyed the chapters from Xate Yawa's perspective, and I will be very cross if any lasting harm comes to Tau-Indi.
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Everyone posted:Which admiral because now you've got me curious? As far as I can make out it says 'Not a word about Shumarez (or Saumarez?) Britain's great admiral/diplomat' Someone else has worked out the publication date despite it being printed overleaf. I'll try to remember to put a photo here tomorrow.
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HopperUK posted:As far as I can make out it says 'Not a word about Shumarez (or Saumarez?) Britain's great admiral/diplomat' This guy, presumably, although from the Wikipedia article I can't quite understand why the former book owner was so very Mad About Admirals on his behalf.
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Just finished The Ministry for the Future and i'm a little torn. I loved the concept of the book, some of the perspectives given and the ideas KSR talks about that could be used to fix the biosphere. However it's rare I just skim over multiple pages in a row. Before I had a kid I would force myself to finish books or just put them down completely rather than just skim. I found myself just not caring about a lot of the more "literary" pages and just being more interested in the POVs and ideas parts. Has definitely made me more eco-concious though - at the minute I pay a few $ a month to a tree planting charity but looking a making some small changes to change my contribution to emmissions - which I think is a good sign after reading a book.
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Quorum posted:This guy, presumably, although from the Wikipedia article I can't quite understand why the former book owner was so very Mad About Admirals on his behalf. I'd never heard of this guy, though he is in some books I've read so I probably just forgot. Note:  I cannot emphasize enough that if you turn this page, the publication date is printed at the foot of the next one. Notewriter #1 is correct! Just unobservant.
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