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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




CaptainSarcastic posted:

It's been decades since I last dealt with a Zip drive, but do they have jumpers? What you're describing sounds reminiscent of old IDE drives where if the jumper was incorrectly set between master/slave/auto it just wouldn't work.

These are the parallel port ones, so setup should be handled by the software, but for some reason that’s not happening

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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

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Powered Descent posted:

Telix. It was Telix. Back in high school I had used Procomm, but my first college roommate showed me Telix which was so much drat better I never touched Procomm again.

...I think I'm old. :corsair:
Other nostalgia-fuel BBS dialers if you want to go on a Goog Hunt:

Telemate (wow seriously no Wikipedia page for Telemate?!)
{Commo}
...

O.K. those three are literally all I remember. There was probably some like garbage starter dialer program everyone used to then go download one of the others, but I definitely do not remember any others.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Ha yeah, I’m guessing there was always a bundled program in whenever you bought a modem otherwise getting a preferred choice would probably be tricky. I can’t remember anything I used before Terminate either, but there definitely was a few.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I couldn't begin to guess what the name of the program I used to dial up to the local WWIV board, but I know it used a mail packeting system called Jabber.

I think I probably just went through a series of terminal programs I got from The Software Labs that each purported to do XModem and ZModem and Kermit better than the last.

Did anyone ever encounter RIP Graphics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Imaging_Protocol

Vector-based remote imaging, which ran in EGA mode. Made for some unbelievable user interfaces for a 9600 bps connection!

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

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Oh dang, I remember taking forever trying to get RIP working (which probably means I tried two different times for 10 minutes each and failed). I think I saw them once on a friend's system which was why I was so determined to get it figured out. And that I failed is clearly why I was the only one of my friends who did not go into IT

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Data Graham posted:

I couldn't begin to guess what the name of the program I used to dial up to the local WWIV board, but I know it used a mail packeting system called Jabber.

I think I probably just went through a series of terminal programs I got from The Software Labs that each purported to do XModem and ZModem and Kermit better than the last.

Did anyone ever encounter RIP Graphics? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Imaging_Protocol

Vector-based remote imaging, which ran in EGA mode. Made for some unbelievable user interfaces for a 9600 bps connection!

RIP graphics required you to download and install a graphic pack for your terminal program. Like, if you wanted RIP in Legend of the Red Dragon, you would have to find and download RIP-LORD.ZIP and extract it in your RIPTerm folder. Your BBS might also have it's own RIP graphics files.

Some time in the mid 2000's, some goon ran a telnet BBS that had some BBS door games like LORD installed on it. I was able to get RIP graphics working using a client called RIPTel and it was just as low-fi ugly as I remember :)

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Good lord lol

Yeah, my WWIV sysop guy was just tinkering with it toward the end of my stay on his system before going to college and he never really put more than basic stuff on it, but it was such a strange combination of beautiful high-res drop-down menus (not that I had a mouse or anything) and the dumbest-looking geometric pictures formed out of triangles and arcs

All rendered in glorious SIXTEEN COLORS :2bong:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I don't remember using a program to dial in to BBSs, just typing the commands at the DOS prompt, but my memory is a little vague. We had several local BBSs I used to dial into from an 8088 with a 1200baud modem. :allears:

Years before that it was dialing into Compuserve with a 300baud modem on a Commodore 64.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Dip Viscous posted:

That sure would explain things because I don't think I ever had a cable like that. I reused the same ~6 old cables for many years and then went to round cables as soon as I could.

Didn't you need the modern cables with double the number of wires to get ATA-100 and ATA-133 speeds? (Maybe even ATA-66?)

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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CaptainSarcastic posted:

I don't remember using a program to dial in to BBSs, just typing the commands at the DOS prompt, but my memory is a little vague.

I don't recall any version of DOS having native modem commands, but most BBS clients had their own command line interface that looked essentially like it where you could type in commands, so might be blurring the two.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ha yeah, I’m guessing there was always a bundled program in whenever you bought a modem otherwise getting a preferred choice would probably be tricky. I can’t remember anything I used before Terminate either, but there definitely was a few.

I used GPTerm on the Amiga. And because that was way before the internet and they lived locally, I went to the developer's house to go buy it off him.

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I have the IBM PC my dad bought 40 years ago that came with two 5 1/4 floppy drives and no hard drive and the thing still works. All the floppies from that time still load. I recently fired up a saved game of Wizardry 1 I had on floppy from 1985

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Way back in the day, the most used terminal program for home computers in Finland was Sypterm. It was given away for free on a diskette by the bank SYP, so people could use their on-line banking system. Fun times renting a modem from the Postal and Telecommjnications Facility and loading up Sypterm to access Rauma Mailbox RAMBO.

Man I know it's not tech but it's wild to remember there used to be like 20 banks, not two.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




3D Megadoodoo posted:

Way back in the day, the most used terminal program for home computers in Finland was Sypterm. It was given away for free on a diskette by the bank SYP, so people could use their on-line banking system. Fun times renting a modem from the Postal and Telecommjnications Facility and loading up Sypterm to access Rauma Mailbox RAMBO.

Man I know it's not tech but it's wild to remember there used to be like 20 banks, not two.

That reminds me. I have this Minitel based terminal gathering dust. I'd love to turn it into a dumb terminal that could be used for telnet, but it uses a weird non-standard serial line that would need an adapter to work with anything else. It's doable but haven't gotten to it yet.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Minitel has always seemed so wild to me. I feel lowkey jealous of French folks who had a real cyberpunk terminal in their homes in the 1980s that they could use for ordering train tickets and stuff. And porn, apparently so much porn, it was by the French, after all.

Doccers
Aug 15, 2000


Patron Saint of Chickencheese
So I ran 3 iterations of a BBS.

The first was a HERMES board on a macintosh LC,
then I shifted to a 486 and WWIV.
Shortly after that, I switched to a multi-line VBBS board, running under OS/2 for multitasking.
I swear I still have that thing backed up to tape somewhere around here...
The friend I had who got me into BBSing... still runs theirs.
As in, not only as a TELNET bbs, but actual dialup. and ISDN.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Doccers posted:

So I ran 3 iterations of a BBS.

The first was a HERMES board on a macintosh LC,
then I shifted to a 486 and WWIV.
Shortly after that, I switched to a multi-line VBBS board, running under OS/2 for multitasking.
I swear I still have that thing backed up to tape somewhere around here...
The friend I had who got me into BBSing... still runs theirs.
As in, not only as a TELNET bbs, but actual dialup. and ISDN.

I never ran a real BBS but I did set up several BBSes just for fun and sometimes a few friends would call them. It was fun to do the ANSI menus and set up doors etc.

I think the first one was with Remote Access.
Then I had a :filez: PCBoard.
And finally Daydream running under Linux.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I'm pretty sure we ran Ami-Express. My friend was a courier for some warez group and they provided him with CCs to dial international. Crazy.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Pretty sure a mates dad ran a filez BBS. I'd be there for sleepovers but would sneak off to suss what he was doing in his office that has 270 degree desk full of monitors and PCs doing all sorts of poo poo. Happily spent hours handing him floppy disks while getting second-hand high off his weed and listening to Zappa.

Also my Avatar text is in reference to our sneaker-net of porn up and down the QLD coast.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 11:21 on Mar 19, 2022

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Doccers posted:

The friend I had who got me into BBSing... still runs theirs.
As in, not only as a TELNET bbs, but actual dialup. and ISDN.
This rules. I loved reading about the handful of people still running dialup. BBSs in whatever article talked about it a few years back. I would probably be scared of the politics of any of them, but it still rules

As does that French terminal system

Oh and I might actually have been running a BBS into the 2000s, but two of my friends decided the way of the future was running a Linux telnet setup in 1998 and not only killed my BBS in the attempt, they also killed my last working 5 1/4" drive, and just refused to come back and figure out how to put MS-DOS back on my system so the could at least BBS die a natural protracted death. I will never finish that intense game of BBS Chess with the guy who later ran for Congress under the Green Party

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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For some great minitel action on film, watch Dial Code Santa Claus. A genuinely ace Christmas horror film that Home Alone definitely wasn’t inspired by at all.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

KozmoNaut posted:

Minidisc (or some other magneto-optical disc) would have been absolutely perfect, but no, Sony had to hobble their own format because reasons.

and yet there they were in every TV show and movie for awhile, taunting me with their pleasing form factor

LifeSunDeath posted:

i burned cds constantly. was very proud to give bootleg CDs to friends, I even made custom printed labels :D

*sighs wistfully and looks at box in closet with literally 100 Rifftrax DVD-Rs with sweet lightscribed labels*

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

*sighs wistfully and looks at box in closet with literally 100 Rifftrax DVD-Rs with sweet lightscribed labels*

I have all the Rifftrax's burned on printable DVD-Rs.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mister Kingdom posted:

I have all the Rifftrax's burned on printable DVD-Rs.

I used to have something similar to this


https://primera-north.myshopify.com/products/bravo-4200-series-disc-printers-and-publishers

On paper it's a great idea, mass burner and printer all in one. BUUUUUUUUUTTTTT It is a little off on it's timing and ink would still be wet when the next disc dropped so they would stick together sometimes.

We had this weird issue where it ended up being destroyed... I can't remember how but the insurance company bought it.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

i just bought one of those a couple months ago for $100
i have zero need for one, it was just too cool to pass up, i've been using it to bootleg philips cdi games
the OEM ink cartridges are really expensive but the model is old enough that you can just stab the empty ones with a syringe to fill it back up



lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




r u ready to WALK posted:

i just bought one of those a couple months ago for $100
i have zero need for one, it was just too cool to pass up, i've been using it to bootleg philips cdi games
the OEM ink cartridges are really expensive but the model is old enough that you can just stab the empty ones with a syringe to fill it back up





Ok this is impressive!

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

the most fun thing about it is that i can remote desktop into the computer that it's hooked up to from wherever, then watch it do its thing on a webcam


https://i.imgur.com/REM3FGT.mp4

i'm so grateful to the previous owner that bothered to list it for sale instead of just junking it :haw:

hot off the press:

r u ready to WALK has a new favorite as of 14:55 on Mar 20, 2022

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


r u ready to WALK posted:

the most fun thing about it is that i can remote desktop into the computer that it's hooked up to from wherever, then watch it do its thing on a webcam


https://i.imgur.com/REM3FGT.mp4

i'm so grateful to the previous owner that bothered to list it for sale instead of just junking it :haw:

hot off the press:



This is the best thing I've seen all week!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Yeah those look like they’ve come out great.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

r u ready to WALK posted:

the most fun thing about it is that i can remote desktop into the computer that it's hooked up to from wherever, then watch it do its thing on a webcam


https://i.imgur.com/REM3FGT.mp4

i'm so grateful to the previous owner that bothered to list it for sale instead of just junking it :haw:

hot off the press:



PRO BOOTLEG

very impressive

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




r u ready to WALK posted:


hot off the press:



Thanks for the free cd key, sucker!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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I like the edit so it says "Make Illegal Copies of this Disc", but I was so hoping for it to have the devils0wn CDKey (which naturally would be useless for that version, but still!)

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
It’s taken me three days to remember FXTerm. A custom client BBS but it presented a really nice mouse driven GUI. Super space age compared to typical ANSI stuff at the time.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

Did anyone else ever use the DOS web browser Arachne? I randomly thought of it again and went to look up some screenshots for nostalgia, only to find that the latest stable release of it is from 3 months ago.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Dip Viscous posted:

Did anyone else ever use the DOS web browser Arachne? I randomly thought of it again and went to look up some screenshots for nostalgia, only to find that the latest stable release of it is from 3 months ago.

Never heard of or used that one (chances are I will have a VM running it tonight just to gently caress with it), but it reminds of Links browser (not to be confused with Lynx browser). Someone had ported it to the original modded Xbox and I would use it on my bedroom tv back around 2005 to browse SA forums. That goon who got banned for using WebTV aint got nothing on me.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

https://twitter.com/SorenSpicknall/status/1505669145861541888

1980s. :cripes:

Qwijib0
Apr 10, 2007

Who needs on-field skills when you can dance like this?

Fun Shoe

Dip Viscous posted:

Did anyone else ever use the DOS web browser Arachne? I randomly thought of it again and went to look up some screenshots for nostalgia, only to find that the latest stable release of it is from 3 months ago.

Yes, although I can't remember the reason I needed to-- this was in a high school lab in '98 or '99 when surely I would have had access to macs or windows.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
Tech Relics - Vintage Blackberry circa 1980s?

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Dr. Quarex posted:

Arguments about what ".diz" meant really take me back

And yeah, finding a list of BBSs and checking them out one by one was seemingly the most fun you could possibly have with a modem in, say, 1991. IRC for me personally had surpassed it soon afterwards though

For my Wolf3D level set Discipline I made a few months ago, since it was an old school vanilla set, I downloaded a file_id.diz creator and made a diz file just for fun.

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Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Woolie Wool posted:

For my Wolf3D level set Discipline I made a few months ago, since it was an old school vanilla set, I downloaded a file_id.diz creator and made a diz file just for fun.
Hell yes, I will add the pack to my BBS file area

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