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OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

When you move into a place you can just phone up whatever provider you want, say ' I'm new in address XYZ, meter no. 123, and the reading is 4567, I want an account with you, I dunno who the last lot were with' and they should just sort it all out for you. Make them do the legwork to get your cash, cos they will if you ask them to. Just sound apologetic, dumb, and that you want to give them money and they'll do what they can to fix poo poo.
Don't deal with old people, you want to stop giving them money so of course they're like 'Nah, you don't wanna do that, maybe try, er, this number?'

E: lovely snipe: from 80 interesting facts about the UK:

58-Sausages are famous in the U.K. Romans introduced sausages around 400AD. Approximately 470 recipes are made using sausages.

Well I never.

OzyMandrill fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Mar 20, 2022

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

WhatEvil posted:

Figure this might be a good place to ask.

My wife might be getting a new job soon where she has to manage a small team of ~5 people. Anybody know of any books or resources on how to be a good manager, as a leftist? Like, I know she's working within a power-structure which is inherently capitalist which is unavoidable, but basically we think it might be a good idea for her to read something on "how to be a manager" but want to avoid any right-wing bullshit.

E: Oh btw it's a union workplace AFAICT. Public Service Alliance of Canada - the union for government workers in Canada. They seem good at first glance, they are at least explicitly anti-privatisation.

Re being a line manager.

I've done this several times in my work history. So here's my 2p.

It's great when you've got good people.

When you've got people who take the p or people having some personal life trauma such as divorce or being hounded by debt collection agencies or having a complete mental breakdown leading to being sectioned during work hours, it's not so much fun.

Also, if you have a team member who turns out to be dangerously incompetent (my experience of that was someone who continually made mistakes and the biggy was a mistake leading to the ripping out of a fire alarm private line from a very large warehouse to the brigade) but you get no support from HR as you are accused of racism.

Check out all the HR policies, check out what support you will get from HR if things are going wrong. Each team member is different and needs different levels of support. Some need close supervision, others will freeze if you're looking over their shoulder all the time.

Obviously depending on the work being done, try and give your team a break from time to time to explore new ways of doing things. In my last team, we were tied to a formal sequence of 4 weekly reporting that had to be done but in the 3rd week of the 4 weekly cycle, there were fewer fixed demands so I encouraged that as 'exploration' week and a couple of them came up with some really innovative stuff.

I found it quite useful to do a Belbins type exercise. https://www.belbin.com/about/belbin-team-roles to identify the strengths of the team and where it needs beefing up a bit either by deliberately targeted training or, if looking for a new team member, recruitment for the missing bits. Eg I had a couple of 'brilliant' prima donnas in my team and I needed someone who was happy to do the process work - come in, do your job, don't try to innovate, just do it, go home. So I specifically recruited someone with those attributes "my rock" I called her!


After all this, I decided that if I should reenter the formal workplace (which I did about a year ago now), I would prefer a technical role where I'm judged solely on my performance and no line management / supervisor roles whatsoever.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Mar 20, 2022

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

jiggerypokery posted:

He said that caroles tweet was "just not true" when it objectively is true that RT pushed and paid farage.

The thing is that everything bastani said was true as well. It just may turn out that his connection to RT is criminal which can't be said of the BBC, even though British media is obviously much more culpable for him.

Everyone is right basically and this is the sort of argument that makes nuclear oblivion seem like a nice break from it all.

It could be down to the way Twitter shows nested tweets, but Carole's point was that RT was what made Farage so mainstream as to be dangerous. Bastani was pointing out that that was bollocks as nobody watched RT while Farage has been on QT more times than any other guest this century, had an LBC show, was on HIGNFY repeatedly etc etc etc. Pointing out that Carole missed the wood for the trees isn't defending Farage.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

crispix posted:

the overall result of my surveys of the supermarket of late is stuff is stupid fuckin dear

i take a more qualitative approach than Jaeluni Asjil i suppose

Ditto, I'm far too disorganised to actually notice price rises in my shopping because I tend to just buy stuff as I remember I need it (rather spoiled by having an Asda, M&S, Waitrose, and Lidl in easy walking distance, plus my local supermarket has most stuff covered anyway). I have been going "What, really?" a lot more often at the till when I see the price for the three random items I happened to remember that time though.

I *can* say that my specialist cat food order has jumped from £49 to £54 for 6 weeks, a near as dammit 10% increase. What kind of idiot creature needs special food to make them piss, anyway? Ii this keeps up I'm going to just chuck some Special Brew over bog-standard Whiskas instead.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I *can* say that my specialist cat food order has jumped from £49 to £54 for 6 weeks, a near as dammit 10% increase. What kind of idiot creature needs special food to make them piss, anyway? Ii this keeps up I'm going to just chuck some Special Brew over bog-standard Whiskas instead.

Yeah the stuff I feed my cats has gone up something like 30% between my most recent shop and the one before it, made me wonder if it was all being made in Ukraine or something. I just bought it without registering until I actually paid and was like wtf is going on.

It'll be the Go-Kat soon for them, I think.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I've my first annual review tomorrow with my boss. Just going through the paperwork.
Q5 - how do you see your career developing in next 12 months, next 5 years.

hm. I'm nearly 62. I'm on another 1 year contract that expires end of December (so no guarantee I'll even be there for another 12 months!). I have no career aspirations anymore.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i'd probably finesse/bullshit it a bit more than that

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
or call them a whippersnapper

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

ThomasPaine posted:

It's kind of wild to me that some post-soviet states genuinely draw a formal equivalence between communism and fascism when there are still people alive who lived through both.

They lived through two flavours of fascism, and one of them called itself communism.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Jollity Farm posted:

Decided to look up all these parties on Wikipedia.

... snip ...

But Kyva had already left the Socialist Party of Ukraine, in 2019, to join Opposition Platform - For Life, so I wonder a bit about this one. But then, I'm not remotely Ukrainian, so I expect there's all manner of things I don't know that aren't on English-language Wikipedia.

One thing to note that Ukraine still has a bunch of leftist/socialist/socdem parties, they only banned the ones which are funded by Russia.

ThomasPaine posted:

Are any of the formerly socialist countries not? Seems almost inevitable when you have gangster capitalists running the state. Off the top of my head, I think maybe Slovenia is pretty cool? Possibly the Czech Republic as well? Estonia?

I can only really speak for Czech Republic myself so YMMV, but what corruption there is has a very different character - more something rich businessmen and politicians do than what a normal person might come across. I've never actually seen/been asked for/heard about anyone I know taking a bribe and trying to bribe police or officials would be a great way to get in serious trouble (being a foreigner you might just get a warning as a "misconception" but I still wouldn't try it).

All that said there's definitely the occasional story in media about politicians taking bribes. I don't think it's everyone or commonplace but there's certainly people willing to take bribes in politics.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 21, 2022

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Dabir posted:

They lived through two flavours of fascism, and one of them called itself communism.

Shakespearean Beef posted:

Maybe that is why they draw the equivalence.

Lol alright lads simmer down

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Almost all cat food, cat toys and most cat meds are manufactured in Germany btw.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Dabir posted:

They lived through two flavours of fascism, and one of them called itself communism.

Wasn't it socialism?

Only Kindness
Oct 12, 2016

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I've my first annual review tomorrow with my boss. Just going through the paperwork.
Q5 - how do you see your career developing in next 12 months, next 5 years.

hm. I'm nearly 62. I'm on another 1 year contract that expires end of December (so no guarantee I'll even be there for another 12 months!). I have no career aspirations anymore.

Reminder again for the young folks that yes, the one undeniably great thing about getting older is that you don't have to give a bugger what people think of you. (But for now, younguns, look after yourself. poo poo rolls downhill.)

On a similar note: I did 30ish years at BigCompany Inc. and naturally there were regular rounds of employee surveys. Anonymous, naturally. Random, naturally. Never bothered to respond to them because, of course, nothing would change, plus "anonymous" my arse. Not to mention that if I actually did take advantage of the "anonymity" and answer honestly, I would not just be fired, I would be arrested. I can assure you though that everyone would have stood up and clapped.

Working out my gardening leave before I finished up, I did actually respond to one (wow, how random), as a treat. It wasn't long before my manager referred to something very specific I'd mentioned, so yeah. AnOnYmOuS. Manager was made redundant a year later, for actual unrelated reasons.

I should have a look and see if I have anything purple to wear.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



goddamnedtwisto posted:

Ditto, I'm far too disorganised to actually notice price rises in my shopping because I tend to just buy stuff as I remember I need it (rather spoiled by having an Asda, M&S, Waitrose, and Lidl in easy walking distance, plus my local supermarket has most stuff covered anyway). I have been going "What, really?" a lot more often at the till when I see the price for the three random items I happened to remember that time though.

I *can* say that my specialist cat food order has jumped from £49 to £54 for 6 weeks, a near as dammit 10% increase. What kind of idiot creature needs special food to make them piss, anyway? Ii this keeps up I'm going to just chuck some Special Brew over bog-standard Whiskas instead.

Hey our youngest kitty was in the vet recently for piddle problems and has been put on special food to ensure he doesn't develop future difficulties! For life! Yay!

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ms Adequate posted:

Hey our youngest kitty was in the vet recently for piddle problems and has been put on special food to ensure he doesn't develop future difficulties! For life! Yay!

Well I can report Royal Canin Urinary S/O does the trick, to the point that I thought my dog was having some issues because she suddenly started pissing on the floor while I was at work. Put two and two together when it also appeared that the cat wasn't making GBS threads, turns out it keeps its potency even when it's in a turd, and the dog was having a lovely mid-morning snack from the litter tray while I was out.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I really want to know what evolutionary or human selection pressure produced an animal that just eats anything they can get into their gob and apparently enjoys it.

My mother's dog eats lumps of concrete if you don't stop him.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

OwlFancier posted:

I really want to know what evolutionary or human selection pressure produced an animal that just eats anything they can get into their gob and apparently enjoys it.

My mother's dog eats lumps of concrete if you don't stop him.

The Berlin club scene

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Some dogs are just dumb as rocks.

My cat eats pringles and doritos if either are left unattended around here. She's also tiny so the salt would probably kill her if she actually managed more than a nibble.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Well I can report Royal Canin Urinary S/O does the trick, to the point that I thought my dog was having some issues because she suddenly started pissing on the floor while I was at work. Put two and two together when it also appeared that the cat wasn't making GBS threads, turns out it keeps its potency even when it's in a turd, and the dog was having a lovely mid-morning snack from the litter tray while I was out.

Yep can second this, my oldest cat struggles with kidney stones occasionally. Give him a few bowls of this and he's right as rain again (for a bit at least, he is extremely stupid so forgets to drink water).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

I really want to know what evolutionary or human selection pressure produced an animal that just eats anything they can get into their gob and apparently enjoys it.

My mother's dog eats lumps of concrete if you don't stop him.

My sister's old dog would try and eat random stones, spit them out when it turned out they weren't edible, then come back 30 seconds later to see if they'd suddenly turned edible again.

More generally, one of the proposed routes for the domestication of the dog was that in winter, when food was short, wolves would eat waste (in both senses of the term) from human settlements. It would make sense that the dogs that evolved from those wolves would have evolved a pretty iron stomach.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I also once had a golden retriever who was lovely and sweet, but also loved eating cow poo poo and also rolling around in cow poo poo.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

I had a springer who loved to drink seawater, so every time we went to the beach he'd drink loads and spend the next half hour running around while squirting it out of his arse like a disgusting bottle rocket

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

keep punching joe posted:

I also once had a golden retriever who was lovely and sweet, but also loved eating cow poo poo and also rolling around in cow poo poo.

Are you me

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

My sister's old dog would try and eat random stones, spit them out when it turned out they weren't edible, then come back 30 seconds later to see if they'd suddenly turned edible again.

He sits and chews on them, which I think might partially be because that annoys my mum and she gives him treats to make him drop them, which I have told her is just teaching him to do it more because he gets treats when he does it, but she doesn't seem to understand how pavlovian conditioning works.

keep punching joe posted:

I also once had a golden retriever who was lovely and sweet, but also loved eating cow poo poo and also rolling around in cow poo poo.

Mum's will make a beeline for anything dead it finds and then roll around it in and attempt to eat it.

Very strange animals.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I also caught her eating from a tub of swarfega once. A very stupid beast.

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Well I can report Royal Canin Urinary S/O does the trick, to the point that I thought my dog was having some issues because she suddenly started pissing on the floor while I was at work. Put two and two together when it also appeared that the cat wasn't making GBS threads, turns out it keeps its potency even when it's in a turd, and the dog was having a lovely mid-morning snack from the litter tray while I was out.

We use this for our cats, and can also report it resolved the per issues with our cat.

Also handily comes in a 'moderate calorie' version to help our cats not be fat.

They also all really like it, which is good since they're fussy wee shits.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Hooray, I've got covid. Felt a bit rough and sweaty on Sunday but tested negative, actually feel a bit better today apart from a tickly cough. Praying I wasn't contagious on Saturday because I visited some family, although they're all jabbed up and most of them have had it anyway.

Just feeling so *unfashionable* to have caught it after almost everyone else, it's like I've suddenly really got into dubstep or something.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Hooray, I've got covid. Felt a bit rough and sweaty on Sunday but tested negative, actually feel a bit better today apart from a tickly cough. Praying I wasn't contagious on Saturday because I visited some family, although they're all jabbed up and most of them have had it anyway.

Just feeling so *unfashionable* to have caught it after almost everyone else, it's like I've suddenly really got into dubstep or something.

Covid, like fashion, is cyclical. It even has waves like Ska, the coolest musical genre.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
And in a few years time all that most people will remember is madness and the one about the pubs all being closed.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Hooray, I've got covid. Felt a bit rough and sweaty on Sunday but tested negative, actually feel a bit better today apart from a tickly cough. Praying I wasn't contagious on Saturday because I visited some family, although they're all jabbed up and most of them have had it anyway.

Just feeling so *unfashionable* to have caught it after almost everyone else, it's like I've suddenly really got into dubstep or something.
Yea I suddenly got pinged for the first time this morning, I didn’t know anybody else still had the app installed.

I like the absurdity of the app saying it’s “helping to protect you and others” and then when you do get pinged it’s just “anyway thought you might want to know, carry on about your business“

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Hooray, I've got covid. Felt a bit rough and sweaty on Sunday but tested negative, actually feel a bit better today apart from a tickly cough. Praying I wasn't contagious on Saturday because I visited some family, although they're all jabbed up and most of them have had it anyway.

Just feeling so *unfashionable* to have caught it after almost everyone else, it's like I've suddenly really got into dubstep or something.

Na, world+dog is catching it right now, I know several people who have. Turns out opening 'er up when Omicron is still a thing means lots of (hopefully mostly mild) cases!

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I was in a church on Sunday so rip me

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Marmaduke! posted:

I was in a church on Sunday so rip me

At lest your eternal soul has been saved.

I know a few people with it. It's still rampant.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Private Speech posted:

All that said there's definitely the occasional story in media about politicians taking bribes. I don't think it's everyone or commonplace but there's certainly people willing to take bribes in politics.

So unlike our own dear polity ;p That's a description of, like, everywhere.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Got what feels like the start of a cold coming on. Was inside a pub on Saturday for like 10 mins.

nurmie
Dec 8, 2019
had my second brush with covid a couple of weeks ago. wasn't nice but went by much quicker than the first one back in December, 2020 - i'm basically back to normal already, whereas the first one lasted for like a month, plus some mild long covid-ish effects for a couple months after

anectdotally, i know at least two people who are down with covid now, including a mate of mine who somehow avoided it until now. so yeah, far from over

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
Two of my team of four people have picked it up over the weekend!

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


feedmegin posted:

So unlike our own dear polity ;p That's a description of, like, everywhere.
Our politicians do not accept bribes! They simply lobby for businesses with which they have personal connections, and then later accept cushy consulting gigs with the same businesses for enormous salaries & no actual work. It's like bribe futures!

(sometimes they lobby for businesses which have instead given them generous gifts, but it's all above board because they're just gifts and are recorded in the register of interests, unless they don't record them in the register of interests in which case it would be completely unfair to accuse someone of corruption for a mere administrative omission that would otherwise have been completely lawful)

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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I'm sure they work very hard for those £2k an hour consulting jobs that they take on for sometimes DAYS a month

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