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Diet Crack posted:If he'd like.. not tried to dive up the inside and just followed in he'd be right on his gearbox. It seemed like Max was just raging and not actually thinking about how to get past. He was also eating up his tires into that corner - T4 was a little more forgiving and in my view it might have been easier to tow into T1, stay behind and brake earlier and let the Scud go deeper then get a good exit and set up for T4 on his tail. Max not displaying any race craft you say?
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Zeta Acosta posted:It wasnt the fuel pump 
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Precisely in less words. Also I wonder if those Wheel shrouds on the fronts have anything to do with Max's steering issue
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Zeta Acosta posted:It wasnt the fuel pump The fact that they don't know what the issue is yet sustains me
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maybe they are running their engines at higher modes to try to catch up the scud bois and it died
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Zeta Acosta posted:It wasnt the fuel pump lol eat poo poo Red Bull
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Yeah, without the SC/RB retirements Mercedes would have barely been in the top 5. I'm wondering what to think of the tire degradation that race. iirc the tire choices were skewed all the way towards soft, so even the hard tire was on the "medium" spectrum for that race. Honestly more pit stops makes things more interesting, so I'm hopeful the tires just wear more this season.
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Diet Crack posted:I don't see this. They lucked out with the safety car and whatnot this race, else it would've been a pretty poo poo outing for them. The hard tyre choice granted was weird, but I don't think that Merc has the pace to keep up with the RB/Scud in a straight line. The engine changes to the eco fuel may have hosed them. The car was also still porpoising like crazy with full fuel load. This is where I am, Mercedes didn't get a podium on merit, Sunday shouldn't be a relief for them.
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Residency Evil posted:Yeah, without the SC/RB retirements Mercedes would have barely been in the top 5. I agree. If the situation was totally different the situation would be totally different.
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Thanks Ants posted:This is where I am, Mercedes didn't get a podium on merit, Sunday shouldn't be a relief for them. When would we expect to see the first results of whatever Mercedes has already started doing to fix their engines? edit: boop the snoot posted:I agree. If the situation was totally different the situation would be totally different. I mean yes if Red Bull retires every race this season Mercedes will do pretty well!
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Mode 7 posted:Zhou did really well for his debut, though in my heart I wish Mick had held on to 10th and got points just to see Guenther's radiant joy/elated swearing. Mick's got the speed, he took damage in that incident with Ocon and didn't use softs late on when everyone set fastest lap. And still he was within 4 tenths of Kmag. Unless the rest get their poo poo together really quickly he'll be in the points soon enough.
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I can't really see anybody making improvements until Australia with minor changes, and larger upgrades coming in time for Imola. Maybe Red Bull can improve enough to finish the race in Saudi though.
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Motivation time for Danny Ric - Zac will buy this for you if you make Q2. https://twitter.com/Bringatrailer/status/1505909741532299268
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Residency Evil posted:When would we expect to see the first results of whatever Mercedes has already started doing to fix their engines? It's going to be tricky because I think the engines are only allowed a single upgrade and then I believe they're frozen for a few years.
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:re-watching the race and just got to the part where Sharl absolutely played Max like a fiddle, not once, not twice, but three times. It was like Lucy constantly pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. Max crying on radio made it even better.
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Diet Crack posted:If he'd like.. not tried to dive up the inside and just followed in he'd be right on his gearbox. It seemed like Max was just raging and not actually thinking about how to get past. He was also eating up his tires into that corner - T4 was a little more forgiving and in my view it might have been easier to tow into T1, stay behind and brake earlier and let the Scud go deeper then get a good exit and set up for T4 on his tail. Like Max/RBR was slower on every part of the racetrack except the main straight. Arguing he shouldn't have tried to get and keep track position in the one place he was able to get nearly there, is stupid.
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net work error posted:It's going to be tricky because I think the engines are only allowed a single upgrade and then I believe they're frozen for a few years. Oh yikes, did not realize this. Let's hope it's not the Mercedes engine then! 
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:man, Sharl also had a killer restart too, played Max there as well. Max tried his stupid 'get as close to alongside as possible' move and seemed to forget that would mean taking a really tight line into the corner
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I was surprised he didn’t try to slow Chuck down on the exit of turn 1. He used to do that a lot. Go slow through a corner to compromise the exit of the car behind.
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Khablam posted:If you actually watch the race, you'll see he followed through T1 on the first lap through and he wasn't able to stay close enough for the DRS into T4 to get it done. lol u love Max so much - he's an aggro shithead OP and couldn't help divebombing Charles constantly.
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Residency Evil posted:Oh yikes, did not realize this. Let's hope it's not the Mercedes engine then! I think they'll be cautious about it and make sure the aero setup is correct before blaming the power unit. The fact that Lewis was only 6/10ths down on qualifying lap time with that insane bouncing makes me think it's too early to blame the power unit.
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Khablam posted:If you actually watch the race, you'll see he followed through T1 on the first lap through and he wasn't able to stay close enough for the DRS into T4 to get it done. "If you actually watch the race" lol I did, and not once did he try to do what I said.
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To my ignorant eyes it seems that as much as "making the cars better at following" with the new regs, the cars are a bit harder to drive generally and more sensitive to set up changes, what with their stiffer suspension and also just way less data on how the tires are going to play out over a stint/race. Hopefully this means more variation in competitiveness within teams and also between teams at different tracks. In general the sport is at its most watchable when you are watching the drivers and teams adapt on the fly and make heads-up calls instead of just plugging the data in and hoping Bottas doesn't drive off a cliff.
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someone run down which race circuits have destroyed the most tires tia
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Diet Crack posted:someone run down which race circuits have destroyed the most tires tia There was Istanbul a season or two ago where they had a new surface and it shredded everyone across the board
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had a horrible nightmare last night that mclaren were very slow and somehow ferrari were the fastest team and got a 1-2. hahaha what a wacky dream. it's crazy the stuff our brains can come up with huh edit: lmao at my av, well played pasta lovers. could have left my papaya gang tag at least though 
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I must admit, I did enjoy Haas getting some nice points yesterday. Merc looks loving weird racing along side the other cars. Its just an odd design. Coulthards 'still you rise' comment to Lewis was really cringey.
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speng31b posted:I think they'll be cautious about it and make sure the aero setup is correct before blaming the power unit. The fact that Lewis was only 6/10ths down on qualifying lap time with that insane bouncing makes me think it's too early to blame the power unit. Hopefully you're right, although all of the bottom cars being Mercedes powered can't be good.
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Diet Crack posted:someone run down which race circuits have destroyed the most tires tia baku 2021
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Sab0921 posted:lol u love Max so much - he's an aggro shithead OP and couldn't help divebombing Charles constantly. He was slower through T1-T4 so the idea he'd have a better time getting past with less straight/DRS to use to get alongside is just so silly. It was his only shot at track position.
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Khablam posted:Would you have rather he just sat behind rather than make an attempt? What do you smooth-brains want, beyond just wanting to poo poo out another HURR DURR MAX BAD post? After it didn't work the first two times (maybe even the first time), try to follow close behind LeClerc and make the pass going into T4 - you know, be smart and learn from the prior attempts.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:Coulthards 'still you rise' comment to Lewis was really cringey. It's true though??
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Diet Crack posted:someone run down which race circuits have destroyed the most tires tia indianapolis
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Sab0921 posted:After it didn't work the first two times (maybe even the first time), try to follow close behind LeClerc and make the pass going into T4 - you know, be smart and learn from the prior attempts. n.b. it's exactly why leclerc was brushing past him again before T4. Please, forums poster Sab0921, please consider the F1 champion may just have considered "try a different spot" given he is, you know, famous for trying all the spots, and there are other reasons the rest of the circuit wasn't an opportunity.
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Sab0921 posted:After it didn't work the first two times (maybe even the first time), try to follow close behind LeClerc and make the pass going into T4 - you know, be smart and learn from the prior attempts. Leclerc only needed to hold off for a couple of laps before Max ran out of battery to catch him even on the main straight, even if he somehow managed to get past at turn 4 Leclerc would just pass him at the next turn 4 and would disappear again. I don't think there was a situation where Max could stay in front, other than forcing a big mistake.
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