lumpentroll posted:

https://twitter.com/lordofsoy/status/1503396251664105481

paul_soccer12 posted:

what if brown moseses ran our entire health care system

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

lol those are my favorite type of dumb guy anarchists. like even if we ignore the more research intensive fields for a second. where are you gonna get your shoes? just make a friend with a blacksmith, a tanner and a cobbler? these people are out of their minds

lumpentroll posted:

https://twitter.com/lordofsoy/status/1503396251664105481

my bony fealty posted:

shoes are made by elves.

Buck Wildman posted:

wrong they make cookies dumbass

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

lol those are my favorite type of dumb guy anarchists. like even if we ignore the more research intensive fields for a second. where are you gonna get your shoes? just make a friend with a blacksmith, a tanner and a cobbler? these people are out of their minds

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We cannot as yet abolish private property; we cannot regulate the means of production which is necessary to work freely; perhaps we shall not be able to do so in the next insurrectional movement. But this does not prevent us now, or will it in the future, from continually opposing capitalism. And each victory, however small, gained by the workers against their exploiters, each decrease of profit, every bit of wealth taken from the individual owners and put to the disposal of all, shall be a progress—a forward step toward Anarchy. Always it should serve to enlarge the claims of the workers and to intensify the struggle; always it should be accepted as a victory over an enemy and not as a concession for which we should be thankful; always we should remain firm in our resolution to take with force, as soon as it will be possible, those means which the private owners, protected by the government, have stolen from the workers.

The right of force having disappeared, the means of production being placed under the management of whomever wants to produce, the rest must be the fruit of a peaceful evolution.

It would not be Anarchy, yet, or it would be only for those few who want it, and only in those things they can accomplish without the cooperation of the non-anarchists. This does not necessarily mean that the ideal of Anarchy will make little or no progress, for little by little its ideas will extend to more men and more things until it will have embraced all mankind and all life’s manifestations.

Having overthrown the government and all the existing dangerous institutions which with force it defends, having conquered complete freedom for all and with it the right to the means of production, without which liberty would be a lie, and while we are struggling to arrive to this point, we do not intend to destroy those things which we little by little will reconstruct.

For example, there functions in the present society the service of supplying food. This is being done badly, chaotically, with great waste of energy and material and in view of capitalist interests; but after all, one way or another we must eat. It would be absurd to want to disorganize the system of producing and distributing food unless we could substitute it with something better and more just.

There exists a postal service. We have thousands of criticisms to make, but in the meantime we use it to send our letters, and shall continue to use it, suffering all its faults, until we shall be able to correct or replace it.

There are schools, but how badly they function. But because of this we do not allow our children to remain in ignorance—refusing their learning to read and write. Meanwhile we wait and struggle for a time when we shall be able to organise a system of model schools to accomodate all.

From this we can see that, to arrive at Anarchy, material force is not the only thing to make a revolution; it is essential that the workers, grouped according to the various branches of production, place themselves in a position that will insure the proper functioning of their social life—without the aid or need of capitalists or governments.

And we see also that the Anarchist ideals are far from being in contradiction, as the “scientific socialists” claim, to the laws of evolution as proved by science; they are a conception which fits these laws perfectly; they are the experimental system brought from the field of research to that of social realization.

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One of the fundamental points of Anarchism is the abolition of the monopoly of the land, raw material, and the instruments of production, and thereby the abolition of the exploitation of other people’s labour by those who hold the means of production. Any appropriation of other people’s labour, everything that serves to enable a man to live without giving to society his quota of production is, from the Anarchist and Socialist point of view, a theft.

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We, the anarchists, wish that in each locality the workers, or, more properly, that part of the workers which has the clearest insight of their position and the readiest spirit of initiative, should take possession of all the instruments of labour, all wealth, land, raw materials, houses, machinery, foodstuffs, etc., and should sketch out as far as possible the new form of social life. We wish that the agricultural labourers who now toil for their masters should no longer recognise the rights of any landlords, and should continue and intensify their work on their own account, entering into direct relations with the industrial and transport workers for the exchange of products; that the industrial workers, leading engineers and the technical staff included, should take possession of the factories, and should continue and intensify their work on their own account and that of the community, transforming rapidly all those factories which produce useless or harmful things into establishments for the production of articles which the people most urgently need; that the railway workers should continue to run the railways, but for the use of the community; that community or voluntary workers, locally elected, should, under the direct control of the masses, take possession of all available habitations, to shelter as best the hour will permit all the most indigent; that other committees, always under the direct control of the masses, should provide for the food supply and the distribution of articles of daily use; that all real bourgeois be placed under the necessity of merging with the mass of the former proletarians and of working like them in order to enjoy the same benefit as they. And all this must be effected quickly, on the same day as the victorious insurrection or the day after, without waiting for orders from central committees or any other authority whatever.

This is what the anarchists want and this also would naturally happen if the revolution is really to be a social revolution and not limited to a simple political change which, after some convulsions, would lead everything back to the starting-point.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The "Twitter Left" lining up behind Ukraine in their profiles is one of the more disgusting things they've done in the last few years. Delusional romantics, the whole lot of them.

fart simpson posted:

wasnt that long ago that subsistence farmers just made their own shoes. just roll back the clock to pre-industrial society

WrightOfWay posted:

Love to gatekeep by lending out books completely for free.

Mayman10 posted:

Any type of barrier to what I want is authoritarianism

Mayman10 posted:

Any type of barrier to what I want is authoritarianism

Lib and let die posted:

Dark Souls is a fundamentally authoritarian fantasy because of the player character's inability to traverse knee-high walls

gradenko_2000 posted:

for those who don't get it immediately: they're trying to rationalize stealing books from a public library

indigi posted:

does it cost money to get a library card? I haven’t had to apply for one in quite a while but last time I did you just walk up with proof of residence (I used my drivers license) and they printed me off a card right then and there

indigi posted:

does it cost money to get a library card? I haven’t had to apply for one in quite a while but last time I did you just walk up with proof of residence (I used my drivers license) and they printed me off a card right then and there

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

TenementFunster posted:

does this clown still tweet? he’s gotta be the most embarrassing “anarchist” on twitter who isn’t the anarcho drone programmer.

Mayman10 posted:

DennisthePeasant, or whatever his name is, is a strong contender for that title

TenementFunster posted:

does this clown still tweet? he’s gotta be the most embarrassing “anarchist” on twitter who isn’t the anarcho drone programmer.

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Contrary to the assertions of some leftists there are in fact thoroughly monstrous people who are not just victims of their social conditions. Humans vary. We each follow somewhat random paths in the development of our values and instincts, buffeted by a million tiny butterfly wings of context that can never be managed or predicted.

A hundred cloned children with identical genes, given identical love and education, will nevertheless face moments of uncertainty where one must randomly pick a hypothesis or strategy from among those possible and run with it, to test out different models and values. Tendencies of course emerge in the aggregate, but they have exceptions. Sometimes these exceptions are themselves an aggregate phenomenon. An approach that is stable when adopted by 99% of a population may nevertheless be hard to keep stable at 100%, with random lone defectors seeing sufficient reward as to re-emerge. Game theory reveals that while compassion and mutual aid are broadly embraced in certain environments, this is often paralleled by the emergence of persistent minor tendencies of parasites and predators around the margins, with varying degrees of complexity. Most populations stabilize with a mix of individual strategies. Further, an individual’s life path is not only shaped by impossible to control random conditions, it also necessitates a degree of randomness in their personal exploration. Unfortunately there are certain perspectives that, once reached, aggressively wall themselves off from further consideration, adaptation, or mutation.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

oh yeah

https://twitter.com/rechelon/status/1505691136685453315?s=20&t=8sd_hprCaY4VuH5cLgbWgg

this is loving insufferable

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A core anarchist realization is that we cannot guard against bad people by creating institutions of power because the same bad people will inevitably seize and wield those institutions. The only long term answer is to remove all positions of power, to make it, in a million ways, impossible for anyone to seize or maintain control over other people.